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Post# 982207   2/10/2018 at 19:53 (2,257 days old) by angus (Fairfield, CT.)        

Marsillio's delivered my Speed Queen AWN 432 today - my existing SQ is 12 years old and is doing fine, but wanted another washer so this was it. I was thrilled to get it since none of the local dealers had one nor could they access one. And since I ordered mine, Marsillio's is done with them as well. According to them, they sold 60 since December and couldn't get any more.

Anyway, I thought I had done research but apparently didn't consider a few things like the "normal/eco cycle" that they claim is fine for most cotton fabrics. Don't understand that one - cold wash - can't override it, and no deep rinse, but a spin/spray rinse. Fortunately the permanent press/heavy duty cycle is the equivalent of my old normal cycle.

But I do have a question. I recall when that machine was still featured on the SQ website, it stated it had "full tub fill". What exactly did that mean? I ask because I ran the machine through a full cycle to clean the tub and the water only came up just below the second row of holes from the top (no clothing was in the tub). To me that isn't a "full tub". My 12 year old SQ fills right up to the top row of holes.

So what has anyone else's experience been with this model? What should I have expected? Should I have not assumed that "full tub" meant what I thought?

Of course I took a photo and went up to Marsillio's to ask the sales person what they understood and they had no idea.

So what do you all think?

Haven't done a full load yet so will see tomorrow how it performs overall.




Post# 982209 , Reply# 1   2/10/2018 at 20:07 (2,257 days old) by Mrsalvo (New Braunfels Texas)        

That's pretty much normal for a large load. I have a 2015 model and it does the same thing. I think there is a YouTube video that shows you how to tweek it if you want the total tub full of water. The reason they do this is the Dept of Energy regulations. You can also hold the reset knob down after it finishes filling and it will add as much more water as you feel that you would need, that's what I do. To me it's not much of an issue since I don't load clothes past the 2nd hole in the agitator to lessen wear and tear on the clothes.

Barry

Post# 982225 , Reply# 2   2/10/2018 at 23:25 (2,257 days old) by CorvairGeek (Gem State)        
432 Wiring Evolution

 "You can also hold the reset knob down after it finishes filling and it will add as much more water as you feel that you would need, that's what I do"

We do that as well (primarily my wife). There is a overflow switch that will shut off the water, if you hold it 'too long'. This is what shuts off the water during the appx 24 second spray of the selected water temperature during the (essentially worthless) Normal / Eco wash cycle if the water level is already high / too high.

I would like to see the first two revisions of the 432 machine's schematic to see how the features and timer evolved (or devolved). I would gladly attach mine, but I don't want to violate rules or possible copyright.

Post# 982238 , Reply# 3   2/11/2018 at 01:02 (2,257 days old) by sq9series (seattle)        

I purchased my SQ 9 series in December of last year. I read many of the FAQ’s on SQ website pertaining to the 2017 models including water consumption. Those 2017 FAQ’s appear to be gone now. As I recall, the 432 and 8 series have 3 water levels with the highest being large. The 9 series has a forth level called extra large. I believe the extra level delvers about another 1.5 gallons to completely cover all the holes. My machine fills to the very top of the stainless steel basket. Every review I read about the 9 series states the same experience, all holes are covered with water on the extra large setting. On the large setting, the water level goes to about the second set of holes. I am very happy with my SQ 9 series and the fact that the water goes to the very top of the stainless steel basket if I request it. The best part was that I got a good discount on it. I guess it was because the store was trying to clear out their 2017 inventory in preparation for the 2018 models.

Post# 982239 , Reply# 4   2/11/2018 at 01:29 (2,257 days old) by CorvairGeek (Gem State)        

"As I recall, the 432 and 8 series have 3 water levels with the highest being large"
Our 432 (August 17 made) has Mini, Small, Medium, and Extra Large, with the reset too. It actually has many detents through out the range. I've found it to be somewhat non-linear, as the difference between medium and extra large is not that great, IMHO. The adjustment range is only about 120 degrees, so it does look different compared to the older machines where it marked for just over 180 degrees of range / movement.

Post# 982271 , Reply# 5   2/11/2018 at 08:13 (2,257 days old) by chetlaham (United States)        

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X2- I have always been curious how it does it.


Attaching the tech sheet won't violate anything- I do it all the time.

Post# 982275 , Reply# 6   2/11/2018 at 09:29 (2,257 days old) by CorvairGeek (Gem State)        
Tech Sheet

 I assume this is the last revision (Rev 3) due to our late production date. I know the lid switch used to be where the jumper is between pins 4 and 8 on the timer, rather than killing the power to the machine. The timer is unique with the silly Eco Spray of the selected temp during the wash cycle.

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Post# 982288 , Reply# 7   2/11/2018 at 10:14 (2,257 days old) by angus (Fairfield, CT.)        

My 432 has an "extra large" setting which is what I used - but the water still only came up to just below the second set of holes.

Post# 982325 , Reply# 8   2/11/2018 at 14:56 (2,257 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
Water Level

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Both of the electronic machines, 8 and 9 series, have a full tub fill. The knob controlled 432 fills to about 2 inches shy of the top. This is because the eco cycle fills to the water level switch with cold water. Shortly after agitation begins, the water will come back on at the requested temperature to bring the level up another inch or so.

You can adjust the water level switch to fill to the rim, just be advised the normal eco cycle will potentially overflow.

Malcolm

Post# 982397 , Reply# 9   2/11/2018 at 21:17 (2,256 days old) by harleybadger (Pittsburgh, PA)        

And it should be pointed out that if you adjust the fill on an 8 or 9 series, and even just barely turn the screw, it can fill TOO high and it will cause an error, at which point the machine will simply stop, drain and spin, and sit there.

Yup, I tried. LOL.

Post# 982409 , Reply# 10   2/11/2018 at 22:05 (2,256 days old) by chetlaham (United States)        

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Malcom, why do you say this will cause the machine to overflow? The added water is is run through the overfill (second) pressure switch. If the main switch is set to fill to the top, most likely it will satisfy the over fill first or at the same time as the main switch. When that happens the machine simply will not fill for the selected temp on the normal ECO cycle.



If the OP has this second pressure switch and its wired the same (I assume it would be if its there) then the water can be raised without issue.

Post# 982410 , Reply# 11   2/11/2018 at 22:07 (2,256 days old) by chetlaham (United States)        
No pressure switch

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If the OPs does not have one, the correct lead can be cut and capped off or something like that after checking the tech sheet.

Post# 982709 , Reply# 12   2/13/2018 at 21:43 (2,254 days old) by CorvairGeek (Gem State)        
432 Water Level and Overflow Protection

 "The added water is is run through the overfill (second) pressure switch. If the main switch is set to fill to the top, most likely it will satisfy the over fill first or at the same time as the main switch. When that happens the machine simply will not fill for the selected temp on the normal ECO cycle.

If the OP has this second pressure switch and its wired the same (I assume it would be if its there) then the water can be raised without issue"

The redundant switch (overflow) of the late 432 would make it very difficult to create an overflow situation. The pressure tube/hose breaking or being disconnected could do it easily though, as they are "tee'd" in the console off the same hose from the tub.

My scan of tech sheet looked much sharper than the upload. Just drop me a line with something about this subject in the subject line, if you would like a copy. I tried to send chetlaham a copy, but it was returned.

Post# 982710 , Reply# 13   2/13/2018 at 21:44 (2,254 days old) by CorvairGeek (Gem State)        
432 Water Level and Overflow Protection

 "The added water is is run through the overfill (second) pressure switch. If the main switch is set to fill to the top, most likely it will satisfy the over fill first or at the same time as the main switch. When that happens the machine simply will not fill for the selected temp on the normal ECO cycle.
If the OP has this second pressure switch and its wired the same (I assume it would be if its there) then the water can be raised without issue"

The redundant switch (overflow) of the late 432 would make it very difficult to create an overflow situation. The pressure tube/hose breaking or being disconnected could do it easily though, as they are "tee'd" in the console off the same hose from the tub.

My scan of tech sheet looked much sharper than the upload. Just drop me a line with something about this subject in the subject line, if you would like a copy. I tried to send chetlaham a copy, but it was returned.

Post# 982727 , Reply# 14   2/14/2018 at 00:38 (2,254 days old) by chetlaham (United States)        
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Try sending it again. I thought I had the new one up, my apologies.


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