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Post# 983239   2/18/2018 at 09:23 (2,252 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)   |   | |
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Post# 983241 , Reply# 1   2/18/2018 at 09:30 (2,252 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains)   |   | |
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Most likely. Those BSR turntables have an awful reputation, so bad the company sold their genuinely good semi-automatic systems under another name. And, yet - they have held up better than the Garrards of that era and as well as the V-M turntables which, by this point, were actually running magnetic cartridges at 2g or less without difficulty. Solid state, of course, and I don't know anything about that, but I'd guess the sound quality by that day's standards was considered adequate for one's great-aunt Agnes and her hearing-aide. Those early solid-state amps were awful. Pretty cabinet. One reason I think it may be a Sylvania. They did nice cabinetry. |
Post# 983361 , Reply# 3   2/19/2018 at 08:41 (2,251 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains)   |   | |
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Two lines - as did V-M. Even the strictest audiophile could find nothing wrong with the V-M professional series turntables and the limited quantity broadcast standard (I refuse to say 'studio standard' after what Fisher did to the name) Garrard equipment was wonderful. The Zero 100 saved the company but came at a cost. They wanted to do it in much better quality and less cheesy woodgrain. Couldn't afford it. The tonearm had cost too much to engineer and too much to build. This is why you see these unbelievably good tonearms, 100x less tracking error than the best 'S' arms on offer, under dust covers which scratched an cracked and yellowed (quite a feat, considering they came 'smoked') practically overnight. When V-M collapsed overnight, BSR stepped into the gap and what had been acceptable quality in the early 1960s declined rapidly. |
Post# 983374 , Reply# 4   2/19/2018 at 09:44 (2,251 days old) by Stricklybojack (South Hams Devon UK)   |   | |
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Way back when Garrard made some nice stuff it seems. Below are the results of a quick googling. Seems some of these have present day tone-arms being used. By the time I got into hi-fi gear BSR was synonymous with lowest end garbage. BCI was more interesting, but still usually bested by the competition. Garrard too, was perennially a lesser option by the late 70's early 80's. This post was last edited 02/19/2018 at 10:02 |
Post# 983378 , Reply# 5   2/19/2018 at 10:40 (2,251 days old) by speedqueen (Metro-Detroit)   |   | |
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With what is on the market today(namely Crosley), BSR record changers seem of relatively good quality by comparison. Here is a video of my early '70s Panasonic all in one stereo with BSR changer. I like it and have no issues with its performance. However, I must add that I do not, by any stretch of the imagination, have "golden-ears".
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Post# 983563 , Reply# 7   2/20/2018 at 09:04 (2,250 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains)   |   | |
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Engineering. The American market was important for them in the 1960s and '70s and they had a real problem - their equipment was declared so hazardous it was illegal to import or sell it in the US. The material from which the program cam was made was a plastic which not only supported combustion - it had a very low melting temperature and would turn into a pool of liquid flame, spilling out onto everything and turning a minor fire into a major conflagration. By the time they'd fixed that, BSR had started their ultra-cheap and trashy turntable line and V-M in their last rally before death was putting out really good consumer grade turntables at super low prices. I can't find it at the moment, but there's an excellent article on their battle to create the Zero-100 series without killing the company. Quite honest and revealing. About as far away from the Speed Queen people of today as one might get. Had they been able to work with V-M (who had photo-electric cell trips, eliminating the troublesome velocity trip systems and hands down the best changer mechanism on the market,(better even that DUAL), they could have really come up with something tremendous. |
Post# 983671 , Reply# 9   2/21/2018 at 01:58 (2,250 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)   |   | |
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Well, somehow my Technichs still is state-of-the-art-EVERYTHING!!!! (May it always be...)
-- Dave
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Post# 983687 , Reply# 11   2/21/2018 at 07:39 (2,249 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains)   |   | |
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In their professional line of changers. But what changers they were! Outstanding specs, records dropped at onto a platter which was not moving when they dropped, tonearms which raised to match each new record's height, a very low innate tracking error and an outstanding anti-skate...they were hailed even by serious audiophile magazines. But, yeah - look how fast the good stuff went. And how the mid-range is totally off the market! Croslet at 9grams or Technics at $4 grand..... |
Post# 983729 , Reply# 12   2/21/2018 at 16:23 (2,249 days old) by firedome (Binghamton NY & Lake Champlain VT)   |   | |
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for under 1 grand, but nothing at any price approaches the laser ELP TT form Japan:
elpj.com/...
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