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New Washer....Decisions, decisions
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Post# 983816   2/22/2018 at 08:16 by seeitrun2006 (Braselton/Hoschton GA)        

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Well this time I have more questions about FL versus TL. I've been looking at washers again. So far I've looked at the Maytag TL model #MVWP575GW, Whirlpool FL model #WFW8540FW and Whirlpool FL model #WFW75HEFW. I saw the Maytag FL's yesterday at Best Buy and don't like the gigantic big door it has. Nor do I want to pay a higher price for a Washer with Whirlpool guts and a Maytag outer cover.

Maytag TL model #MVWP575GW-This looks like a sweet machine. The only thing I don't like is that all the deep fill cycles fill all the way up. The normal cycle does not offer a deep rinse like the other cycles. I prefer a choice of water levels. I'm on a septic tank and do want all that water going in to cause problems later. Also there is none to be found on display in North GA. I asked Maytag/Whirlpool how much water does this washer use. Of course get the same scripted non-sense answer I always get. Per them "it really depends on the size of the load".

Whirlpool FL model #WFW8540FW-I like this washer. Seems it would be a good middle of the road machine. There is a model #WFW85HEFW but can't figure what the difference is between the two machines are. The WHW8540FW seems to be the newer model of the WFW85HEFW.

Whirlpool FL model #WFW75HEFW- This is my favorite washer!!! No frills, bells or whistles. It does have the visible balancing ring. I've seen reviews on You Tube showing it has very little if any vibrations during an off balance load ramping up to full 1200 rpms. Plus I don't need steam. We do not have extremely dirty clothes that needs steam. I don't see the need for tumble fresh either. We get our clothes out of the washer the minute it turns off.

So any opinions and discussions would be greatly appreciated!!!


Post# 983834 , Reply# 1   2/22/2018 at 10:45 by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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Either of the frontloaders is the better choice over a TL, especially regards to water usage concerns.

Or consider Fisher & Paykel's WashSmart model WA3927G1 for a toploader.  Since you're concerned about water level choices, it has five manual selections (low is very low and high is to the top) or auto-sense (which chooses one of the five levels).  Allergy cycle allows full tap-hot fill. Allergy has two rinses but there are simple workarounds to get a hot fill on other cycles.  Normal and Heavy Duty cycle can do a water-saving shower rinse, which is very effective at rinsing.  Max spin is 1,100 RPM.  JoeyPete bought one recently, you could ask him detailed questions or find his videos on YouTube.

Post# 983915 , Reply# 2   2/22/2018 at 22:00 by IowaBear (Cedar Rapids, IA)        

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I like both TL and FL and I think I'd like the TL MVWP575GW or the FL WFW8540FW (with heater.)


I'm not impressed with the user manual for the FL WFW8540FW.  There are hot and extra-hot water settings, but the manual only mentions the heater when it talks about the steam function.  I would guess that the heater works when you select extra-hot but the manual doesn't say so.  It also doesn't say what "hot" and "extra-hot" temps are.  I would try to get the answers to these questions before I bought it.


On my Maytag MAH6500 FL, there is simply a toggle for the heater, and if it's on it will keep cold at 65, warm at 105 and hot at 130 for main wash, regardless of cycle.  Very simple.


I wouldn't buy the low-end front loader without a heater, there just isn't enough water used in them to fill hot or stay hot.


If I had to buy a new machine tomorrow I honestly think I'd just get a used DD and clean it up.  There are so many good ones going for cheap.  It's a value I'd find hard to pass up.

Post# 984131 , Reply# 3   2/24/2018 at 10:24 by Laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii)        

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I amnot impressed with the WE and their other brands like Maytag and Kenmore. I call them the east buckets because their body is thin metal that easily rusts. They have a button catcher but no owner access to it like other brands.
If it was necessary for me to have a top loader, it would be hands down on the LG. I had one and really liked it. A local goat dairy farmer buy bought it from me for the cheese cloth. LG also makes fabulous front loaders. I bought some.of my realities eachand they have had them since 2012. No repairs. One of my aunts bought new home and got LGs top of the line top loader with a mega 5.3 cut.ft wash tub. She can barely reach the bottom of the tub. No mold issues either.

Post# 984143 , Reply# 4   2/24/2018 at 12:16 by henene4 (Germany)        

Yeah, no matter which FL you end up with, make absolutley sure it has a heater.

Post# 984158 , Reply# 5   2/24/2018 at 15:48 by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)        
No button catch

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That is a big issue I have with Electrolux/Frigidaire/Whirlpool/Maytag FL washers. You have to take the machines apart to get to them. I've tried to think of what reasons they would have for not making an access door like Miele , LG, Samsung, etc. Even if you're super diligent checking pockets, things can still happen. A rug may disintegrate by washing or a small item might pass by. Either these other companies just think the access door is unsightly for their particular designs OR they literally do not want customers to have easy access to it but instead have a service call. At any rate, there is no way I would go back to a TL washer unless I had no choice. I seriously have no clue which FL washer I would ultimately go with if my duet died today.

Post# 984215 , Reply# 6   2/25/2018 at 06:21 by Rolls_rapide (Scotland, UK)        
No pump filter access

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Another of the Electrolux brands, Zanussi, has done exactly the same thing on the Zanussi 'Lindo' range. Some customers weren't at all happy.

Notice the lack of a pump access hatch, which have been on Zanussi machines since the year dot... (Picture courtesy of

From Reevoo:
"I was pleased with it until it broke within 2 weeks. Very quiet.

Bad Points−
It broke within 2 weeks. There is no way to manually drain this machine from the front. The Zanussi engineer had to drag the machine full of water across the floor to the back door, and tip the machine up to empty the water over the path. The shop refunded and I bought a different machine."

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Post# 984217 , Reply# 7   2/25/2018 at 06:52 by Rolls_rapide (Scotland, UK)        
Oh dear...!

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It would appear we have a bunch of halfwits working at Zanussi too!

From the 'Lindo' features:

"Self cleaning detergent draw - no more stick mess in the draw, as it will just clean it's self after each cycle."

Not only is the spelling wrong in several places, but the grammar is disjointed.

What the hell is wrong with modern corporations?! They used to make their products appear to be desirable, not only in pictures, but in text too.

These days, everything is complete crap!


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