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Interchangeability of Direct Drive Wash Baskets
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Post# 984998   3/2/2018 at 19:13 (2,217 days old) by Stricklybojack (South Hams Devon UK)        

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See the old Imperial below? I bought it recently and in the process of cleaning it up I found it needed a new balance ring and basket. Everything else is fine, and I could have ran as I found it, but I couldn't leave well enough alone...and while removing the tub...well, hilarity ensued.
Ya da ya da...my question is, how interchangeable is this basket with others in the direct drive tribe?
This being an early 80's model #LA9200XWW1.


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Post# 984999 , Reply# 1   3/2/2018 at 19:17 (2,217 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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I always liked changing out to white tubs.....stainless is available too....


what did you do to the original?


Post# 985004 , Reply# 2   3/2/2018 at 19:44 (2,217 days old) by Stricklybojack (South Hams Devon UK)        

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In my exuberance the balance ring got cracked, and when removed much of metal lip of the tub came with it. Sadly the rest of the tub is fine.
Sears has the tub, and in the picture at least it comes with the balance ring, for $130 not including shipping. My budget for this is around 50-$70.


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Post# 985007 , Reply# 3   3/2/2018 at 19:49 (2,217 days old) by Lorainfurniture (Cleveland )        
I’m not sure

Excluding the 24” models I believe there was just the standard tub and the large tub.

Post# 985008 , Reply# 4   3/2/2018 at 19:53 (2,217 days old) by Stricklybojack (South Hams Devon UK)        

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Tried to date it, which is it?
See pic...


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Post# 985010 , Reply# 5   3/2/2018 at 20:01 (2,217 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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I would say it closer to 1988.....

I wouldn't invest that sort of money into that machine for a new one....

just keep it on the back burner for another donor machine to come along....direct drives are a dime a dozen....



Post# 985037 , Reply# 6   3/3/2018 at 03:39 (2,217 days old) by Stricklybojack (South Hams Devon UK)        

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Is this a DD?
Needs a timer but free for the taking...


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Post# 985038 , Reply# 7   3/3/2018 at 05:05 (2,217 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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That is not a Whirlpool, not a DD.


Post# 985054 , Reply# 8   3/3/2018 at 07:47 (2,217 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
Washer in reply #6 is a Norge

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Any super capacity approx 3 CF basket from 1985-2010 will fit this washer. This rusted out basket really shows the damage that mineral build-up does even in a dry climate lake Southern California.

 

In rebuilding washers for resale we find that machines that are abused this badly [ too little detergent for local water conditions ] and are are nearly 30 years old are not worth the effort to repair, often the center post is also rusted and the agitator and spin shaft plating is seriously worn in the top seal area which means the washer is not long for this world.

 

Just like anything else condition is everything, some lightly washers this old are worth saving.

 

John L.


Post# 985056 , Reply# 9   3/3/2018 at 07:58 (2,217 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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if it was part of a matched set....I would say, save it, and transfer the control panel and/or body to another newer base....

Post# 985060 , Reply# 10   3/3/2018 at 08:31 (2,217 days old) by Imperial70 (MA USA)        

That's my first time seeing an Imperial that wasn't a belt drive. Very nice!

Post# 985095 , Reply# 11   3/3/2018 at 12:21 (2,216 days old) by Stricklybojack (South Hams Devon UK)        

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Is this the larger spin Basket used in DD machines?

Part # W10389329

Is substituting the larger for the smaller ever done?


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Post# 985216 , Reply# 12   3/4/2018 at 08:46 (2,215 days old) by Combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        

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Larger 3 ft.³ basket will not fit into the smaller outer tub

Post# 988083 , Reply# 13   3/25/2018 at 15:30 (2,194 days old) by Stricklybojack (South Hams Devon UK)        

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Okay so I got a basket.
Then I decided to go looking for trouble and started poking around the tub seal/center post.
My always most dangerous thought, "well I've come this far..."
Yada yada yada...now the tub won't play nice and vacate the premises as it were.
I saw too much crusty rust for my liking (drives me nuts, must remove!) and figured seals can't cost much.
Anyhow what's the trick to lifting a stubborn tub, more persistence?
No doubt.
Seemed a waste to not explore given the time spent thus far. I cut into the seal and found loads of black gooey sealant. It was probably a few years at least from leaking...but I realized I am in search of satisfaction as much as practicality...so backwards to go forwards it shall be. If the center post is too far gone then I will dump this as previously suggested.


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Post# 988090 , Reply# 14   3/25/2018 at 16:03 (2,194 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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That's not the spin shaft, it's the centerpost.  The basket drive (spin) shaft fits inside the centerpost (the agitator shaft fits inside the basket drive).

Yes, just keep pulling until the tub comes loose.

Replacement tub supports (which includes the centerpost and bearings) are available if you want to go that far with it.  I got two last year.


Post# 988097 , Reply# 15   3/25/2018 at 16:41 (2,194 days old) by Stricklybojack (South Hams Devon UK)        

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Changed my wording.
Really don't want to do anything more than the seal.
Had I known the tub was going to be this fused I would have left things as they were and it would be washing by now.
Alas it will have to wait until the new seal arrives.


Post# 988152 , Reply# 16   3/25/2018 at 20:10 (2,194 days old) by chetlaham (United States)        

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Could the rust be from the leaking fluid in the balance ring? I heard its very corrosive.

Post# 988164 , Reply# 17   3/25/2018 at 21:56 (2,194 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
DD Washer Outer Tub Center Post Gasket

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Hi Robert, Yes you should have left it alone unless you want to do it right [ new tub support and bearings  as Glen suggested ]

 

Black gue- sealant ? this is just dissolved rubber and other crude, there was no sealant used on this part.

 

Corrosion from a leaking balance ring ?  I don't think that is possible, first of all the balance ring on a DD washer only has pure water in it and even if it had a corrosive mixture in it and leaked, it would not be able to come into contact with this area in sufficient concentrations to affect this seal and cause rust in a washer that uses 40+ gallons of water every cycle.

 

John L.


Post# 988173 , Reply# 18   3/25/2018 at 23:26 (2,194 days old) by Stricklybojack (South Hams Devon UK)        

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Tub support, do you mean wear pads?
I may do more while it's all apart.


Post# 988191 , Reply# 19   3/26/2018 at 00:41 (2,194 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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Tub support, P/N 280184.


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Post# 1020327 , Reply# 20   1/6/2019 at 11:39 (1,907 days old) by Stricklybojack (South Hams Devon UK)        

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Update. I let go of this machine with a few others that were past fixing. I don’t have any room to spare right now, or probably ever at this rate, so bye bye. Two DD’s (the Imperial included) went to a guy hoping to make one. He thanked me for the machines by also taking a bunch of scrap metal that had to go as well. All in he filled his pickup and we were both happy campers.
Combo52 was right, it was too rusty to justify resurrecting. I did buy a new wash basket for it, but I just found a nice condition DD Kenmore solely in in need of a basket. Looks new compared to this Imperial. That project makes more sense, coming soon to a thread near you.

I bothered to do this update because threads on AW that end mid way drive me nuts!








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