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Post# 985843   3/8/2018 at 14:39 by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        

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Would likely cause a power outage for entire street!

Post# 985915 , Reply# 1   3/9/2018 at 08:31 by Supersuds (Knoxville, Tenn.)        

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Wow. But unless you could arrange 380 volt service to your atelier, I’m afraid it wouldn’t be of much use!

Post# 985928 , Reply# 2   3/9/2018 at 12:27 by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)        

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I think the price is what just stopped me...

-- Dave

Post# 985929 , Reply# 3   3/9/2018 at 12:31 by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, the Netherlands)        

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And don't forget the cost of shipping it across the big pond.

Post# 985958 , Reply# 4   3/9/2018 at 17:46 by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
What kills me is ....

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Seller lists international shipping with an estimate of $400 USD, as if that will happen.

Getting much smaller appliances out of Germany is quite dear and a hassle as it is; cannot see anyone shipping that huge ironer. Crating and freight charges would likely run near a thousand or more.

Interesting thing is how common these *Heissmangel* are all over Germany, including small scale laundries to pressing/ironing services run out of a private home(or attached to).

Post# 986003 , Reply# 5   3/10/2018 at 00:14 by iej (Ireland)        

Moving that to the USA would be very problematic. You're not going to be able to connect it without a very complex setup that would cost probably more than the appliance and the shipping combineD.

That's EU three phase. 380V is now nominally 400V. You've 230V from each phase to neutral and 400V between phases. In the old specs it was 220V/380V in continental Europe and Ireland and 240/415V in the UK. We split the difference in the early 1990s and moved to 230V/400V nominally.

400V power is pretty standard stuff for light commercial use in Europe. That would need to be connected to a small 3-phase hookup with an RCD (GFCI).

It depends on the country, but in many continental ones, three phase is 4 wire service is standard as it's useful to distribute the load even to small residential services. In Ireland and Britian, residential and very small commercial are usually just connected to high amp single phase. We still use 3 phase 4 wire distribution on the street but each user is just connected to different phases to spread the load, with 4 wires only being brought in where someone exceeds about 100A (230V) service.

Bare in mind air-conditioning is not usual or necessary here in residential so there's never really been much residential users of 3 phase. In continental Europe homes with air con or heat pumps would normally use 400V. You're starting to see a bit more of it here now too with heat pumps appearing a bit more as a source for home heating.

Post# 986010 , Reply# 6   3/10/2018 at 01:37 by tolivac (greenville nc)        

400/230V 3 ph-this is used in two of our transmitters for LV supplies,water pumps,and blowers.150Kva on each transmitter-4160v 60 hz primary-400/230V secondary 3Ph.The transfomers are in small vaults behind the transmitters.AEG and BBC.I don't think the VOA would be too happy running the pressing machine from these power supplies!Its nice-but not practical for the home.This was undoubtedly for commercial use.

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