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Thread Number: 74771
/ Tag: Vintage Automatic Washers
A Maytag A-806 and a DE-806 Matched Set! |
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Post# 985891 3/8/2018 at 21:23 (2,232 days old) by Ultramatic  (New York City) |
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Post# 985898 , Reply# 1 3/8/2018 at 22:03 (2,232 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay) |
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Post# 985919 , Reply# 2 3/9/2018 at 09:20 (2,231 days old) by bajaespuma (Connecticut) |
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Aferim! ...HA! Glory...
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| Post# 985920 , Reply# 3 3/9/2018 at 09:20 (2,231 days old) by wft2800 (Leatherhead, Surrey) | ||
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Here's hoping the seller's brother doesn't intervene, like with that Kenmore pair... | ||
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Post# 985944 , Reply# 4 3/9/2018 at 15:07 (2,231 days old) by turquoisedude (.) |
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Post# 985945 , Reply# 5 3/9/2018 at 15:20 (2,231 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City) |
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| Post# 986030 , Reply# 6 3/10/2018 at 07:24 (2,230 days old) by potatochips ( ) | ||
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Awesome! I cant wait to see more. I like the colour. | ||
| Post# 986165 , Reply# 7 3/11/2018 at 12:57 (2,229 days old) by hippiedoll ( arizona ) | ||
CONGRATULATIONS!! | ||
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Post# 986166 , Reply# 8 3/11/2018 at 13:15 (2,229 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City) |
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Post# 986167 , Reply# 9 3/11/2018 at 13:22 (2,229 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City) |
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Post# 986168 , Reply# 10 3/11/2018 at 13:41 (2,229 days old) by mrsalvo (New Braunfels Texas) |
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Those are sweet. I'm with Hippedoll, doing the happy dance for ya. They should serve you well for many years. | ||
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Post# 986169 , Reply# 11 3/11/2018 at 13:41 (2,229 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions) |
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Post# 986170 , Reply# 12 3/11/2018 at 13:44 (2,229 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey) |
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here is a HOH with the body removed...appears it can be vented out either side with the addition of a few pipes....
seems it can go out either side, or out the upper back....just not straight down through the base.... photo courteous of DJones.......
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Post# 986176 , Reply# 13 3/11/2018 at 15:33 (2,229 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City) |
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Thanks guys. | ||
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Post# 986178 , Reply# 14 3/11/2018 at 15:59 (2,229 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City) |
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Just answered my own question... | ||
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Post# 986194 , Reply# 15 3/11/2018 at 18:22 (2,229 days old) by bendix5 (Central Point, Oregon) |
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Post# 986286 , Reply# 16 3/12/2018 at 13:11 (2,228 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta / Georgia ) |
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Like they say
Good things come to those who swear alot and drink. LOL! I'm just KIDDING...back off!
Congratulations, Louie. I wouldn't mind trying those out myself, someday, but I haven't seen anything nearby. Please enjoy and have a toast of your favorite whatever(water, wine, anything) and here's to being patient. Now I wonder if Ralph will ever find that GE fridge? hmmm. | ||
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Post# 986311 , Reply# 17 3/12/2018 at 16:03 (2,228 days old) by robbinsandmyers (Conn) |
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Post# 986320 , Reply# 18 3/12/2018 at 17:57 (2,228 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City) |
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Post# 986321 , Reply# 19 3/12/2018 at 17:57 (2,228 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City) |
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Post# 986322 , Reply# 20 3/12/2018 at 17:59 (2,228 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City) |
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Post# 986325 , Reply# 21 3/12/2018 at 18:01 (2,228 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City) |
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Post# 986338 , Reply# 22 3/12/2018 at 19:33 (2,228 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City) |
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Post# 986348 , Reply# 23 3/12/2018 at 22:24 (2,228 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta / Georgia ) |
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Then raise your Diet Pepsi and
cheers, happy washing with the new Maytags, Louie.
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Post# 986355 , Reply# 24 3/13/2018 at 00:23 (2,228 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey) |
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Post# 986373 , Reply# 25 3/13/2018 at 07:01 (2,227 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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Restoring a MT A806 & DE806 I would diffidently get a 50 cycle motor pulley and set of 50 cycle belts, adding a motor start capacitor is also a great idea for any MT DC washer, the capacitor makes the motor start in a split second without any hesitation.
The large tub MT DC washers just couldn't handle and pull down a good sized load especially during the short rinse agitation period without the 15% speed boost the 50 cycle components give, the regular 16 gallon machines were not quite as bad but still were helped by the 15% speed increase.
If I were going to make this my primary daily driver I would also install the orbital transmission with the load sensor agitator. This upgrade really reduces the clothing wear while allowing larger items to turn over and get evenly washed, it was certainly the best agitator MT ever put in the DC washer. We have this combination [ 50C LS agitator ] hooked up in the A806 in our museum that anyone is welcome to come and try out and so far everyone that has tried it out has really been impressed. Its like the 4 cylinder Chrysler mini van with and without the turbo option, LOL.
The other thing I would do is use a WP inlet valve so you get a faster fill and better spray rinse, you should replace an inlet valve in any case if it is over about 10 years old to reduce the risk of floods.
When rebuilding the dryer I would modify the dryers heating element for 208 volts [ only if you have 208 volt power in your building ] so you get proper drying speeds, otherwise the HOH dryers are pretty slow as they only have a 4800 watt element [ WP- KM always used 5,600 watts during this time period ] which drops to around 3,600 if you have 208 volt power, at this wattage you are getting down to the drying heat of a European dryer without the fast spinning washer to go with it.
I might also consider adding sound insulation to the washer and dryer to make these smooth running machines even quieter and satisfying to use.
John L. | ||
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Post# 986388 , Reply# 26 3/13/2018 at 09:27 (2,227 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City) |
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Post# 986389 , Reply# 27 3/13/2018 at 09:39 (2,227 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA) |
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50hz pulley First off, congrats on finding your dream set! Unless John has a secret stash of 50hz pulleys on hand, finding one from a distributor can be tricky. Here's a note I sent to another member last year regarding the pulleys -
To be honest, I'd clean the washer up, install a new injector, rebuild the motor glide with a new kit, clean the pulleys, install a new drive belt (pump belt should be fine), replace the water valve if you are concerned with using the original, and run with it. Several members have had no issues with the wash action of the A806, as they came from the factory. Personally I feel the A806 was the best of the best and I wouldn't change a thing with the drive system and leave it the way Newton intended it to be.
Ben | ||
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Post# 986406 , Reply# 28 3/13/2018 at 11:14 (2,227 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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Up Grading A Maytag Washer | ||
| Post# 986414 , Reply# 29 3/13/2018 at 11:57 (2,227 days old) by cadman (Cedar Falls, IA) | ||
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Post# 986435 , Reply# 30 3/13/2018 at 14:44 (2,227 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City) |
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Thanks Ben!
I've decided to do the following:
A) Switch to a 50 cycle motor pulley and set of 50 cycle belts if available. If not, I'll put on new belts. B) Install the Load Sensor agitator. C) Switch to the WP inlet valve. D) Rebuild the motor glide.
The transmission if working properly, I will leave be for now. And this is assuming the washer is working correctly at it's maiden wash.
As for the dryer, I have not made the 220 volt installation yet, so I have no idea if ultimately it will be true 220 service or 208V.
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Post# 986441 , Reply# 31 3/13/2018 at 16:36 (2,227 days old) by robbinsandmyers (Conn) |
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Post# 986449 , Reply# 32 3/13/2018 at 17:22 (2,227 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City) |
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Post# 986492 , Reply# 33 3/14/2018 at 01:12 (2,227 days old) by robbinsandmyers (Conn) |
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Post# 986547 , Reply# 34 3/14/2018 at 13:38 (2,226 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions) |
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Post# 986602 , Reply# 35 3/14/2018 at 18:39 (2,226 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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Boosting The Performance Of A MT DC Washer Changing the trans oil to a new more modern oil is differently a good idea if you are keeping the old style Pittman trans, but doing so does nothing about the poor turnover these bigger tub washers are know for and the barely over 600 RPM spin speed.
The 50 cycle motor pulleys are getting scarce but can easily be made by a local machinist, getting the correct belts is actually the harder part of the upgrade.
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Post# 986610 , Reply# 36 3/14/2018 at 19:19 (2,226 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City) |
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Post# 986612 , Reply# 37 3/14/2018 at 19:40 (2,226 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!) |
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Thanks for the tip on the oil, Cory, I'm doing my 806 this summer and will try it.
The Load Sensor agitator may not be a worthwhile effort if you aren't increasing the agitation speed, the smaller fins on the Load Sensor won't move much at the 63 OPM of the Pittman transmission. I looked for the 50HZ pulley & belt set a few years ago and came up dry at every turn. I ordered a set probably 10-12 years ago when they were still available from Maytag but it's not surprising they're all gone now. You really will love the 806, it is the pinnacle of Maytag, mine get used (factory specs) every week.
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Post# 986638 , Reply# 38 3/14/2018 at 22:20 (2,226 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey) |
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50hz setup....doubtful, but Partstore.com has it listed as out of stock until 3/24/18
pulley part number......Y202496 OR 2-2496, 202496 drive belt..............6 2119480....Maytag belt OR 2-11948, 211948 pump belt...............Q 62149 EB....from the Mansfield Prod Co OR 2-11451, 211451, 5303261155 the pump belt looks to be about 1/4" bigger than the original.....the original may work if you slid the pump all the way to the left.....when I get a chance, I will see if it works...no sense in buying another if it works.... the regular powerfin with this setup kicks ass..... of course there is a powerfin from an orbital transmission that will work... the ultimate would be the Load Sensor, to handle any size load | ||
| Post# 986738 , Reply# 39 3/15/2018 at 14:42 (2,225 days old) by cadman (Cedar Falls, IA) | ||
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John, right, no real advantage to spin speed, I use a separate spinner for that.
BUT, when laundry day comes around and I fire up my 3 806's to tackle the work, the improvement in turnover on my turquoise tag is like NIGHT AND DAY compared to the others. No more slow roll or swish-swash. I've shot videos previously on this, need to get them uploaded for others. The only downside is that it's been strongly 'hinted' that I convert the other two! | ||
| Post# 986747 , Reply# 40 3/15/2018 at 15:22 (2,225 days old) by stevet (West Melbourne, FL) | ||
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50hz pulley?? Is that Berkel pulley really the correct pulley for a Maytag Washer? That comes from a Berkel Slicer and It is available thru your local Hobart office! | ||
| Post# 986749 , Reply# 41 3/15/2018 at 15:33 (2,225 days old) by ken (NYS) | ||
Maytag with 50hz pulley Video from our own Swestoyz | ||
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Post# 986772 , Reply# 42 3/15/2018 at 18:22 (2,225 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City) |
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Post# 986789 , Reply# 43 3/15/2018 at 21:53 (2,225 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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Speeding Up A Maytag Washer 15% With a 50 cycle pulley has never caused a failure of any part that I have heard of.
That said I DO NOT recommend using the 50 cycle pulley with the older Pittman transmission and the orignal power-fin agitator. The PFA was proven to be the only agitator that actually will damage clothing in one washing in CRs tests, this agitator has fins that extend too far in the narrow MT wash basket, there fore speeding it up is not likley good for your clothing even though it will not hurt any washer components.
We have been using a Load-Sensor agitator with the short stroke orbital transmission in our A806 at the museum for years and this is a very good combination.
John L. | ||
| Post# 986885 , Reply# 44 3/16/2018 at 13:25 (2,224 days old) by realvanman (Southern California) | ||
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Power Fin Agitator Is this a PFA? I used to run this machine on low speed, but now I have a stuck contact set and can only run on high. I do believe that it is rough on the clothes, and already appears to have claimed one of my wife's bras. One more project to add to the mountain lol. Keith CLICK HERE TO GO TO realvanman's LINK | ||
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Post# 986968 , Reply# 46 3/17/2018 at 09:38 (2,223 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City) |
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Post# 987145 , Reply# 47 3/18/2018 at 15:12 (2,222 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City) |
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They're finally in Brooklyn. Still in the truck, I'll bring them up tomorrow. Here are some pictures taken at Martin's earlier today:
We ran it without water, the panel light works, the spin works and tub brakes smoothly. John (Combo52) after examining the washer and dryer said they would need very little to bring them back into service.
The dryer was hard wired, so the cord was cut. No way to check it at the moment, supposedly it works.
Brooklyn bound!
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Post# 987212 , Reply# 49 3/19/2018 at 03:17 (2,221 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City) |
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My mistake... | ||
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Post# 987237 , Reply# 50 3/19/2018 at 09:13 (2,221 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA) |
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Congrats! | ||
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Post# 987276 , Reply# 51 3/19/2018 at 14:38 (2,221 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City) |
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Post# 987277 , Reply# 52 3/19/2018 at 14:41 (2,221 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City) |
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Continuation of the Maytag series:
From the Cellar to the 19th Floor: The Maytag's New Home P1
www.automaticwasher.org/cgi-bin/T... | ||
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