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Thread Number: 74926
/ Tag: Detergents and Additives
Ahh! Something New Has Been Added! Gain Botanicals Liquid Detergent in Two Irresistible Scents |
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Post# 987456 3/20/2018 at 19:46 (2,222 days old) by Launderess  (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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As if some of us needed any reason to purchase yet more laundry detergents, comes this:
ilovegain.com/en-us/articles-sec... Fits into what one was saying in another thread about P&G, Henkel, and Unilever moving various newly introduced technologies from their TOL offerings down the line. Tide was first out of the P&G box with their "botanical" liquid. CLICK HERE TO GO TO Launderess's LINK | ||
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Post# 987469 , Reply# 2 3/20/2018 at 22:04 (2,222 days old) by lakewebsterkid (Dayton, Ohio) |
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Have you smelled these yet? They smell horrid in comparison to the Tide PurClean. | ||
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Post# 987470 , Reply# 3 3/20/2018 at 22:06 (2,222 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula) |
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It smells like smashed stinkbugs | ||
| Post# 987471 , Reply# 4 3/20/2018 at 22:10 (2,221 days old) by IowaBear (Cedar Rapids, IA) | ||
 "bursting with the irresistible scent of oranges"
LOL - can't wait to smell this coming from dryer vents in the neighborhood!
I'm not sure what the offending brands are but sometimes it's just overwhelming - even out on the sidewalk in front of the house. I can't imagine what it must be like if you open the dryer door.
However a lot of people love them obviously! | ||
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Post# 987487 , Reply# 5 3/20/2018 at 23:39 (2,221 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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No, haven't taken a whiff of neither new Gain scent.
As haven't seen in any of local shops. But will keep one's eyes peeled.
Wasn't thrilled with fragrance of Tide Pureclean so am not expecting any change in that response from the Gain versions. Did sniff Gain "Moonlight Breeze" and "Tropical Sunrise" while at Riteaid, and have to say they were not unpleasant. Well that is a quick sniff of bottle, didn't linger long so cannot say for sure. | ||
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Post# 987580 , Reply# 6 3/21/2018 at 20:13 (2,221 days old) by lakewebsterkid (Dayton, Ohio) |
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Moonlight Breeze The Moonlight Breeze softener is actually OK. The scent is very light in comparison to others. | ||
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Post# 987613 , Reply# 7 3/22/2018 at 00:16 (2,220 days old) by mrsalvo (New Braunfels Texas) |
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I'm going to pass on the Gain, worst reaction to a detergent I ever had. So leary of P&G products. Darn those Optical Brighteners. | ||
| Post# 987683 , Reply# 9 3/22/2018 at 13:37 (2,220 days old) by speedqueen (Metro-Detroit) | ||
Gain Botanicals | ||
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Post# 987704 , Reply# 10 3/22/2018 at 17:09 (2,220 days old) by GusHerb (Chicago/NWI) |
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If it's not Gain Original (and I mean the actual scent, not what P&G marks on the bottle), then I have zero interest.
I'm sure I'll take a whiff of these "botanical" scents next time I'm in Targay and and come back here howling about the horrific assault on my nose. | ||
| Post# 987732 , Reply# 13 3/22/2018 at 20:19 (2,220 days old) by LordKenmore (The Laundry Room) | ||
 you can easily get a detergent with all the enzymes and stain removers etc, but with no optical brighteners (always labelled under something along the lines of “colour care”)
I'm not sure about this... It seems to me that there are or have been products that have names that at least suggest they'd be great, but still have the OBA. The only way to be sure is to do research, unfortunately.
do you guys call them off brand over there?
I think these days these would mostly likely be called "store brand" or something like that. | ||
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Post# 987741 , Reply# 14 3/22/2018 at 22:46 (2,219 days old) by Joe_in_philly (Philadelphia, PA, USA) |
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No Optical Brightners  | ||
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Post# 987742 , Reply# 15 3/22/2018 at 22:48 (2,219 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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American laundry detergents without OBAs
Have no idea how valid such lists are:
www.armystudyguide.com/co... www.ecoamigable.com/laundry-dete... This pretty much sums things up: www.nytimes.com/2010/12/30/busine... American housewives and consumers generally have wanted/demanded "whiter than white" bright whites and colors. Before it was bluing, boiling and bleaches. Then came OBAs and it has been off to the races ever since. It doesn't help that most if not a majority of textiles are treated with OBAs during the manufacturing process. This ranges from whites to various colors, and since OBA agents aren't particularly stable, after several washes things could begin to look dingy. That is just something many here on this side of pond won't have; many housewives (or anyone else that does laundry) would take such results as a sign of their wash not meeting standards. | ||
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Post# 987743 , Reply# 16 3/22/2018 at 22:57 (2,219 days old) by Joe_in_philly (Philadelphia, PA, USA) |
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| Post# 987750 , Reply# 17 3/23/2018 at 00:25 (2,219 days old) by LordKenmore (The Laundry Room) | ||
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Unfortunately, I think that Army Study Guide list might not be current or accurate. They say All powder is OBA free, but I'm pretty sure that All does have brig but I'm pretty sure it has OBAs. I can't find an official ingredient list. But EWG lists "brighteners" on their page talking about All Free Clear:
That Army Study Guide list also mentions Cheer. I'm not sure about Cheer today...but in fairly recent history, we've had discussions here about how Cheer oddly uses OBAs in some products, even though Cheer has been marketed for colors.
The other list mentioning "green" brands might be more accurate. I know Seventh Generation has made a point of having OBA free products.
help.seventhgeneration.com/hc/en...
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| Post# 987751 , Reply# 18 3/23/2018 at 00:34 (2,219 days old) by LordKenmore (The Laundry Room) | ||
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I looked on Tide Purclean’s webpage, and it too says it has no optical brightners.
Yes.
I got a bottle of this about a year ago when it was dirt cheap (clearance + Fred Meyer digital coupon). I'd doubt it has as much cleaning power as some versions of Tide, but it worked very well for my day to day needs (which are mostly about freshening than horror stains).
A part of me thought "I could use this stuff forever as daily use detergent!" And part of me was tempted to just make Tide purclean my standard. But, alas, I'm an AW.org member, and I'm always wondering about some new hot detergent that appears on the shelf... | ||
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Post# 987788 , Reply# 20 3/23/2018 at 13:06 (2,219 days old) by mrboilwash (Munich,Germany) |
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Post# 988135 , Reply# 21 3/25/2018 at 19:01 (2,217 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Each laundry product market has their own ways.
Yes, it is rare to find TOL detergent offerings from P&G or whoever that aren't loaded with bluing/OBA agents; but one can find scent free products.
Meanwhile across the pond finding top shelf laundry detergents in France and or much of the EU that isn't loaded with scent is rare to nil. What of them there are seem to be limited to various "eco" offerings. So there you are then. | ||
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Post# 988214 , Reply# 23 3/26/2018 at 04:08 (2,216 days old) by mrboilwash (Munich,Germany) |
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Guess you`re right, if Gain would work too well there would be no more reason to buy the more expensive Tide.
I just don`t understand why they decided to favor amylase over protease. Wouldn`t the latter be way more important in a one-enzyme detergent ? I`m puzzled what else than keeping it purposely a low performer might be the reason for that. Maybe it`s just a typo, meaning protease is just as present as in other Gain variations but they have forgotten to list it properly. | ||
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Post# 988218 , Reply# 24 3/26/2018 at 05:00 (2,216 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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As one has repeatedly stated
There are more ways to skin the protein soil/stains in wash than just enzymes. Commercial laundries largely have done so for ages and still manage to deliver clean laundry.
Alkaline pH will attack protein so that is one way. Then you have to consider just what is being laundered anyway. If we're talking about lightly worn clothing, bed or bath linen a full frontal attack with enzymes might not be needed in the wash anyway. Suppose if one were doing the wash from local knocking shop or abattoir then this version of Gain might not be first choice, but there you are then. Don't consider Gain Botanicals a bargain brand; but rather an alternative being marketed to persons seeking obviously a more gentle and or perhaps less environmentally damaging detergent. Just as Tide Pureclean isn't up everyone's street, P&G likely very well knows their target market for Gain Botanicals. For those that want to use the stuff but have wash day issues that it cannot cope with; P&G and others offer a vast and bewildering array of "boosters". These add not only the missing protease enzyme, but often others as well with a good helping of oxygen bleach. | ||
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