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Post# 988061   3/25/2018 at 14:20 by sesteve (London, UK)        

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Last Sunday I collected this purple treasure - a Liberator deluxe 1828/01. It was a lucky find as I spotted it next to a gas cooker that was being sold on eBay so I messaged the seller. They weren't going to list it as it hadnít been used for 20 years so goodness knows what might have happened to it. Anyway, here are a few pictures for now and Iíll add to them as I give it an overhaul.
First up is it in the back of the car where you can see the 3 suspension posts.


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Post# 988063 , Reply# 1   3/25/2018 at 14:22 by sesteve (London, UK)        

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Itís a bit tatty on the outside and the knob and buttonís have faded a bit but nothing that canít be sorted

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Post# 988064 , Reply# 2   3/25/2018 at 14:26 by sesteve (London, UK)        

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The soap drawer doesnít seem to have discoloured too much. Some of the lettering as rubbed off the guide too.

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Post# 988066 , Reply# 3   3/25/2018 at 14:29 by sesteve (London, UK)        

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Back panel and rating plate. This is the 750 version as the 02 ramped it up to 800. Itís got the original drain hose but there is a small hole in it where itís been kinked. Should be able to repair it though as the rest of the hose is fine

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Post# 988067 , Reply# 4   3/25/2018 at 14:32 by sesteve (London, UK)        

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The door seal had fused to the door as the seller had only managed to open it an inch. Took a bit of prising but it opened without tearing! All of these picture are before cleaning - just not had time yet

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Post# 988070 , Reply# 5   3/25/2018 at 14:39 by sesteve (London, UK)        

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It came with all its literature in superb condition. The machine dates from February 1977 which is the same date code the 02 version was launched.

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Post# 988072 , Reply# 6   3/25/2018 at 14:42 by sesteve (London, UK)        

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I did find time to check out the innards - all seems good with the module set up behind the control panel. Check out the size of that capacitor.

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Post# 988074 , Reply# 7   3/25/2018 at 14:49 by sesteve (London, UK)        

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Here are the last few pics for now. Iíve added a link to a quick test spin. Will need a full overhaul but I love the noise of the motor.
S :)


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Post# 988084 , Reply# 8   3/25/2018 at 15:30 by matchboxpaul (Just north of Derby, U.K)        

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Hi Steve.
Having had your video drop into my YouTube feed, I thought I'd nip over to here and see if you had started a thread.

What a find!... and thank goodness you contacted the seller, as I think we all know where it was headed if you hadn't jumped in.

Was pretty sure the 1828/01 was visually identical to the 1828/02 but it is always satisfying to know for certain.
As I commented on your video, this machine highlights mechanical developments between the generations ..... definitely 750rpm, as per the 1851/03 along with the more grumbly (in a good way) motor and GEC built pump, before final changes were made by bumping up the spin speed to 800rpm to produce 1828/02 and fitting an alternative pump.

(just remembered that my 1828/02 was retrofitted with a GEC pump)

1828/01 was produced from June 1976 through to March 1977, with production overlapping that of 1828/02 - pre production 1828/02's started in December 1976, with production 1828/02's commencing in February 1977.
I wonder if sales people differentiated the models during the overlap period, bearing in mind the different spin speeds, or whether some people were sold an 800rpm machine but had a 750 delivered?

Congrats on the new old acquisition - keep us updated.

All the best with the restoration.
Paul


Post# 988086 , Reply# 9   3/25/2018 at 15:36 by matchboxpaul (Just north of Derby, U.K)        

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p.s the 'tatty'ness you mention, to my eyes, looks very superficial - once you've worked your magic, it will look great!

Post# 988093 , Reply# 10   3/25/2018 at 16:19 by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
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Welcome to Purple Liberation Steve, another great example saved from the scrap heap and will go well with your tumble dryer, was just waiting for a match....

This was the model my Aunty Pat had after a Servis MK42, always loved the "Colour Purple" or Amethyst as known as....

Have a load of "New to You" buttons & controls when you require them, and if matchbox Paul confirms (he knows stock better than me lol) a fascia as well and there is an original black door boot with your name on it that central parts has just acquired, looking forward to seeing it in all its glory soon !!



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Post# 988100 , Reply# 11   3/25/2018 at 16:59 by sesteve (London, UK)        

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Thanks for the info Paul. Iím always amazed by your level of knowledge. Yes I think it may well have headed the wrong way especially as they couldnít get the door open - they actually thought it had melted to the door.
Is the module in your machine still at the top or moved to the bottom. I need to look into why it is rumbling - I think the bearings are ok but very dry and Iím guessing the bearing seal will have had it. I might try and do the restoration thread of my 18680 as this will help as an aide memoir due to the similarities and that one had a corroded spider. Iíve got a spare so wonít be too hard to change.

Mike - I may well be taking you up on your kind offer. Apart from being faded, the buttons are showing signs of disintegration and I think the fascia is a bit beyond cleaning. Just need to get a 3D printer and can copy the stacking kit bars for the dryer lol.


Post# 988101 , Reply# 12   3/25/2018 at 16:59 by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Purple Liberation

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Heres a few pics of Lees Purple Liberation set now at Als....now to find the 1848 Lol......

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Post# 988118 , Reply# 13   3/25/2018 at 18:09 by gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Au)        
oooooh!

That looks like a fun machine.

I had a GEC badged one of those a few years ago. (The name Hotpoint was already in use in Australia so Hotpoint appliances from UK were badged as GEC here.) The big pulley on the back of the drum, black plastic or bakelite, was broken and the exterior was rusty / tatty.

I cleaned it up as best I could, and managed to find a repairer in Geelong who had a stash of new parts, he had been the local repair agent back in the day but they never sold well here and most of his parts remained unused. I bought the new big pulley from him, he offered to sell me the lot "at the right price" but I didn't take him up on it. The business has now closed up.

I got the machine fixed up but it was still scruffy / ugly, the rust kept reappearing so I eventually disposed of it.

It had the control module at the top behind the controls, does that make it a particularly early one?

good luck with yours. You've got to love the purple!


Post# 988221 , Reply# 14   3/26/2018 at 05:33 by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London UK)        
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Great catch Steve, and even sweeter as you used your initiative to rescue it.

Al


Post# 988223 , Reply# 15   3/26/2018 at 05:41 by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Purple Liberation

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Hi Chris, great to hear from you, glad you managed to use one, fun noisy machines, my Aunt had the v1 version @ 750rpm then was upgraded to the faster (slightly) 800rpm motor, but as original motor was slow it really made a difference...

Have you finished you house build and are you still using the Hoover Keymatic ??

Cheers, Mike


Post# 988240 , Reply# 16   3/26/2018 at 08:29 by gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Au)        

Hi Mike

The house is sort of finished, always more to do but it is officially signed off so we don't have to jump through bureaucratic hoops any longer. I am having fun at present, you might remember it is a mud brick house. I am rendering the external walls with a mixture of cow manure and clay, about 50/50. It sounds disgusting but it isn't, I make up batch and let it stand for a week, it takes on a lovely creamy texture and the smell isn't bad by then. It is lovely and sculptural to work with.

I now have only one Keymatic and it is a non-goer as the motor was missing when I got it. (they used to get cannibalised for the reduction motor, which can drive a barbecue spit.) I gave away my good one and some spare parts machines when we moved, we had a 12 volt converted one I made up myself, it was crude as it operated with two clockwork timers pinched from a twin tub, one would fill then wash, the second would drain then spin. repeat a couple of times for rinsing. The wash (tumble) motor was a windscreen wiper motor, the spin motor was from a golf buggy or electric wheelchair. Any way, when we moved into this house, we upgraded the solar power system so I don't have to use such frankenstein devices, I have a standard LG front loader now. Thanks for asking. How is your collection?


Post# 988332 , Reply# 17   3/26/2018 at 13:52 by matchboxpaul (Just north of Derby, U.K)        

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Hi Steve.

For some reason, I haven't any photos of my 1828/02 from the back forwards - most of my 'in a state of undress' photos of it are through the fascia to the back.

Have attached a group of them below for your perusal.

Enjoy!
Paul


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Post# 988345 , Reply# 18   3/26/2018 at 15:52 by sesteve (London, UK)        

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Hi Paul

Great pictures there - looks like the module may well have moved - the servicing manual seems to point to it adopting the now familiar position. I canít work out on my one what the other two components are - one might be the motor thermistor but Iíve no idea as the manuals I have start at the 02 version and donít reference the 01

I remember that purple corner at Alís - looked fab.

Crikey Chris. Can you imagine what those parts would be worth now! Weíve chucked loads of bits out between us Iím sure that weíd privably hang on to with hindsight but you live and learn!


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Post# 988506 , Reply# 19   3/27/2018 at 16:56 by optima (Cumbria England)        
Liberator 1828/01

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Loving this Stephen.

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Post# 988804 , Reply# 20   3/30/2018 at 06:03 by keymatic3203 (Cardiff UK)        
What a lucky spot Steve

Kris had a similar find a year or so ago, getting an early 70'd bendix by spotting the corner whilst looking at a cooker.

It was staying at a holiday cottage with one of these in the laundry that may have directed mum to look at and get the 18340 a year or so later.

Once again just as we may think, we'll not see one of whatever still about these classic machines still turn up.

All the best with the restoration, you'll do a great job as usual

Mathew


Post# 989052 , Reply# 21   4/1/2018 at 03:38 by sesteve (London, UK)        
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Thanks Mathew and Craig

The funny thing was that I donít look at cookers very often but this appeared in a search and it must have just caught the corner of my eye. Iíve posted the eBay photo below so you can see. I think thereíll be more stuff like this out there Iím sure. Just hope more people think to list.

S


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Post# 989054 , Reply# 22   4/1/2018 at 03:46 by nickuk (chelmsford UK)        
Lovely

What a good spot!

I am delighted that another one of these beauties has been saved.

Good luck with the restoration which I hope goes well.


Post# 989058 , Reply# 23   4/1/2018 at 04:03 by sesteve (London, UK)        

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Thanks Nick.

Will post the pics up on here when I get a chance to start it. In the thick of building works at the moment

Cheers
S


Post# 989095 , Reply# 24   4/1/2018 at 15:20 by triumphdolomite (Staffs(UK))        

Steve
I spotted this too, it was the dispenser drawer that caught my eye. Glad its gone to a good home. I do like the purple doors but I fear they wouldn't go well with my kitchen dťcor!
Ian





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