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Post# 990279   4/11/2018 at 07:32 (2,200 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

10 Rinses plus overflow? Really? Is that why it's called "The Pig?"





Post# 990281 , Reply# 1   4/11/2018 at 07:41 (2,200 days old) by turquoisedude (.)        

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I'd have to guess that 'spray rinses' were included in that count like Whirlpool's seven rinses.

 


Post# 990289 , Reply# 2   4/11/2018 at 09:05 (2,200 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

I should hope, but spray rinses were rare in solid tub machines. What was it; Hotpoint and who else? What about Easy, yes/no? Jetcone, care to help out?  Kelvinator? That would probably make a hell of a mess with that off-center Brobdingnagian agitator. I know GE didn't.


Post# 990294 , Reply# 3   4/11/2018 at 09:34 (2,200 days old) by turquoisedude (.)        

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GE did kinda have a spray-rinse... they called it 'sudskill' where water would spray into the tub at the start of the spin after wash, the motor shut off  and the tub coasted with the water spraying, then the motor kicked back in to continue the spin extraction.  The water shut off shortly thereafter.   I've observed this on my 51 AW5B6 and according to the timer charts, the 53 and 57 GE's should do this too.  

 

My 56 Norge has a spray rinse, as does the 58 Dominion and the 66 Blackstone (the 57 Hotpoint, too, but it's still "in the shop") - all of the above surprised me as I thought a spray-rinse was a perf-tub feature only!


Post# 990307 , Reply# 4   4/11/2018 at 11:48 (2,199 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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my SQ ST does a spray rinse, or rather its so called 'Cool Down' during the 'Durable Press' cycle.....

the overflow continues into the first spin for one minute....odd timing as the tub is spinning/emptying out during that water flow, by the time it just about reaches top speed, the spray stops...


Post# 990331 , Reply# 5   4/11/2018 at 16:14 (2,199 days old) by bobbins (Victoria, BC, Canada)        

I recalled Robert or someone from the club had a video of this? Would be cool to see this in operation.

Post# 990402 , Reply# 6   4/12/2018 at 07:11 (2,199 days old) by lesto (Atlanta)        
SQ ST

My Speed Queen has the spray on the Durable Press cycle as well but our old 59 GE did not have a spray during the suds kill pause. There was one on the 63 Hotpoint my mom had.

Post# 990414 , Reply# 7   4/12/2018 at 09:56 (2,199 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        
Solid tub spray-rinses

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The mid-60's Kelvinator I had has a spray a the beginning of the wash-spin, my 54 SQ has a spray in both the first and final spin. The Bendix Power Surge has a spray in the wash spin and the 63 Hotpoint has a rather long spray rinse during the wash spin.

Post# 990420 , Reply# 8   4/12/2018 at 11:20 (2,198 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        

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My grades plummeted during the marking period when my Grandmother Margaret replaced her '55 Pulsamtic with a '65 Kelvinator. The full force spray begins simultaneously with the water throw, water then flying everywhere. Quite the site.

"What happened to Michael's Grades??? Drugs, Love, What?"

"No, it's worse !"

"Peg's new Kelvinator.........."

And don't forget the Solid tub Easy Spray rinses: eight long sprays in the early models, one continuous spray in subsequent years. Remember, Easy invented the spray rinse in the spindriers starting in the 40's. No way their automatics would exist without them.




Post# 990433 , Reply# 9   4/12/2018 at 13:27 (2,198 days old) by 300C (Jonesboro, GA)        
1962 EASY SPIRALATOR AUTOMATIC WASHER

The See It Wash Videos section of this web site has a 1962 Easy Automatic (Robert's) doing eight spray rinses during the spin preceding the deep rinse cycle.

Post# 990496 , Reply# 10   4/13/2018 at 01:47 (2,198 days old) by mrsalvo (New Braunfels Texas)        

I remember Western Auto selling these in a rural hometown when I was growing up. Next door to WA was a furniture and appliance store that sold Maytag. Just observing the two washers, think Maytag had a larger useable capacity. The Wizards could be rough on clothes, they had an indexing tub. They were definitely a couple steps below Maytag, even a lot cheaper.

Post# 990509 , Reply# 11   4/13/2018 at 05:56 (2,198 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
My Parents 2nd Automatic Washer Was A 1960 CO-OP

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It was the same Franklin built machine as the 4-11 POTD, [ it replaced a 1955 Kelvinator that only lasted 5 years ] and as a kid I watched being repaired so many times that it is probably why I am in the appliance repair business today.

 

The CO-OP was a very decent performer and only had a few minor repairs compared to the Kelvinator, but it only manged 7 years of use in a family of 7. After this my brothers and I drug home an old early 50s MT AMP automatic. We tour it completely apart down to the last gear and seal then reassembled it and put it into service as the families washer. It was pretty clear within a year or so just how inferior the washing and rinsing performance was compared to the two previous washers was.

 

Next my brothers and I rebuilt a 1959 LKM and the MT was sold to a neighbor for $20, The LKM did an outstanding job, lint and grit was gone from the laundry, I first thought the lint filter was not working in the dryer because there was hardly any lint on it from the same type of loads after being washed in the LKM with its SC lint filter. And the WnW cycle was amazing, mens shirts washed in this washer needed no ironing as I removed them from the dryer.

 

The neighbor used the MT AMP for a few years and then bought a new KM washer with Suds-Saver and they just loved this machine and finally had clean clothing as well.

 

John L.


Post# 990521 , Reply# 12   4/13/2018 at 06:46 (2,198 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
Brobdingnagian LOLOL

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Tom thats a good name! LOL

How odd my 1957 and 1960 Speed Queens do not have a spin spray. My 1956 Easy definitely has one. The longest spin spray I have seen is the 1-18. It is almost half a tub of water flung at the clothing whipping by at 630RPMS.

My 1956 Bendix has a very long tumble drain before spin, its 2 increments long 90 seconds.


Post# 990538 , Reply# 13   4/13/2018 at 08:09 (2,198 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

Two neighbors had roughly 1960 GE washers and neither one had a spray rinse, but due to the solid tub the rinse water was clearer than in the perforated tub Kenmores they had before even with the spray rinses. There were amazed.


Post# 990913 , Reply# 14   4/16/2018 at 00:48 (2,195 days old) by Washerlover (The Big Island, Hawai’i)        
Rusty Tie-Dye

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I can remember the final spin/spray rinse meant the end of the solid-tub ‘62 Wards Signature machine we had that we began using after the ‘63 Frigidaire Custom Deluxe bit the dust. (My grandparents had passed away in 1974 and my Mom inherited everything including their lovely ‘62 Wards Signature washer and dryer). We lived in an area in Northern California whose water supply had a high rust content in it. With a final spin/spray rinse in a solid-tub machine meant rusty tie-dye for the white loads in this machine. My Mom thought the machine was faulty so we immediately marched down to Montgomery Ward (in 1975) to purchase a new machine. It had a perforated tub, therefore no more rusty tie-dye. Sadly, I miss that ‘62 machine what we gave to some poor family in need who undoubtedly didn’t mind rusty tie-dye whites..!


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