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Post# 991399   4/19/2018 at 11:13 by chetlaham (United States)        

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Came across this in a house for sale add. I couldn't resist posting it here. They got it right! (IMO)

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Post# 991401 , Reply# 1   4/19/2018 at 11:16 by chetlaham (United States)        

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House is close to a million bucks BTW. Country setting. Absolutely gorgeous. 6 baths, 5 beds. Kitchen has a Vicking (I think) gas stove. Basement bar and theater. Finishing and furniture have to be another million.

Post# 991427 , Reply# 2   4/19/2018 at 16:25 by vacerator (Macomb, Michigan)        
If it's right for them

is all that matters. Up on the left wall says start each day with a greatful heart.
Our laundry is in the basement and right for us. It's also what we could afford.
So we are greatful each day for it.

Post# 991429 , Reply# 3   4/19/2018 at 16:35 by IowaBear (Cedar Rapids, IA)        

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Mine is in the basement as well, never had a laundry room and probably never will.


However if I did it would be a decent sized space with a sink, some storage space for baskets and enough room for a table for folding and ironing.  And a window!

Post# 991436 , Reply# 4   4/19/2018 at 17:17 by Ultralux88 (Denver)        

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We’ve never had the laundry all the way in the basement, but close to it in the first house I lived in, the next two had/have it upstairs on the second floor. It’s nice having it up there, but a basement laundry is far better than none at all! Not big on communal laundry, I love the machines, but not big on all the people... I’d rather launder my filthies in the comfort and privacy of my own home. People just set my anxiety off!

Post# 991437 , Reply# 5   4/19/2018 at 17:19 by Pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        
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in my case washer dryer is on the second floor in the main bathroom would not went a basement laundry room since I prefer that they be on the same floor near the bedrooms

Post# 991487 , Reply# 6   4/20/2018 at 01:58 by chetlaham (United States)        

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Should have explained-

It not that they are upstairs, but rather look at the washer. Its Speed Queen! And a Whirlpool top lint (I think) dryer. The best combo in my opinion.

You have no idea how many million dollar homes I have seen with $2000 HE glitzy washers and a $1000 dryer, often custom colors where available, both matching. Whirlpool, GE, or Frigidaire. On occasion Miele.

On the other hand these people are smart in that they didn't just blow money on the most expensive set they could find- rather the best machines money can buy- which is far less than whats out there. A SQ washer and a MOL Whirlpool dryer. Nothing can outperform these for the money. For the dryer drying is fast and repair is easy. With care it could easily go 15-20 years. The washer is no BS, it cleans, is fast and it should last 15-20 years if not more. These people were never let down and I don't think the new owners will be either. Just hope they don't see the washer as crude and the set as not matching. It would be a shame to spend money on a downgrade.

All in all this is what I would have done if i had to start over. Its also the setup I have now, only that the dryer is timer instead of electronic.

Post# 991515 , Reply# 7   4/20/2018 at 09:23 by vacerator (Macomb, Michigan)        
Can you upload some photos

of the property?
I love looking at nice places. I used to want more land, but it's very pricey, and now I don't want to have to cut that much.
Our home is a ranch type tract house. No second floor. I explored the possibility of converting the now vacated step sons closet to a laundry.
The cost for running a drain line was expensive. It would have to run below the heating ducts in the basement. The finished ceiling would have to come down. You need a pan for the washer, in case it leaks. If a hose bursts and you aren't at home, even more damage.

Post# 991516 , Reply# 8   4/20/2018 at 09:34 by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, the Netherlands)        

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For such a big house it's a rather small laundryroom.

Post# 991527 , Reply# 9   4/20/2018 at 10:59 by combo52 (Beltsville,Md)        
Got It Right ?

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No, it just shows that the matching washers main bearing went bad and they bought a basic SQ to replace it.

They should have purchased a SQ FL washer if they cared about the environment and great cleaning and clothing care.

Hi Louis, and you are correct for such a nice large home the laundry room is far too small.

John L.

Post# 991633 , Reply# 10   4/21/2018 at 12:13 by chetlaham (United States)        

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To which they could have gotten another Whirlpool. There is no Speed Queen dealer in this area, so they actively went hunting for this washer. They did their research it seems.

A SQ FL would have been a better option in several regards, but if the previous HE machine soiled their outlook I don't blame them.

Every home I've lived in had a small laundry room- or was in the basement as in the last one- personally I never found the need for a larger one. There is no point in enlarging everything just because the over-all home is larger or more luxurious. Its a waste to real estate and it does its job as is. Now for the guys on here- or who iron- I could understand.

I am seeing Speed Queen more and more in home for sale adds, which makes me very happy, but its also makes me sad considering what Speed Queen did to their current line up.

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Post# 991634 , Reply# 11   4/21/2018 at 12:18 by chetlaham (United States)        
The Home- part 1

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@vacerator: Sure! No problem! :) I know the Laundry room makes people think the home is smaller than it really, but trust me, the home is big, at least compared to most other homes in the area. A lot is relative so this home might actually appear small in the end- I dunno its big for me. And I would do anything for the furnishing/ style of the home. Anyway:

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Post# 991635 , Reply# 12   4/21/2018 at 12:20 by chetlaham (United States)        
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Post# 991636 , Reply# 13   4/21/2018 at 12:22 by chetlaham (United States)        
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Post# 991643 , Reply# 14   4/21/2018 at 13:27 by combo52 (Beltsville,Md)        
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Where to start, ugly, pretentious, impractical, The kitchen alone would be gone so fast if it was our home.

Looks like the whole thing was staged to sell to someone with more money than good taste.

Almost everything in that house looks cheap, there is almost nothing real, no real art, no real furniture, no great design, nothing of real value, looks like like a rental beach house.

John L.

Post# 991651 , Reply# 15   4/21/2018 at 14:07 by chetlaham (United States)        

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Someone's envy is showing ;P Believe me, I would give anything for a home like that. But then I am content with my Queen and Bunn. Big homes have the down side to HVAC and general upkeep. Some of that space will never get used too.

Post# 991654 , Reply# 16   4/21/2018 at 14:49 by vacerator (Macomb, Michigan)        
it's not that pretentious

If white is your color, it has it going on. White kitchens are in demand currently, but it's not our taste either.
I agree, it's too much home unless you have a larger family.
I've seen way gaudier for a decor.
I think the exterior would have more curb appeal with less white. Maybe a light grey, or blue, or federal blue shutters and trim.
I'd hate to power wash it each year, but little traffic and road dust, it might not need it often?
There houses like that near here, which have rearage on the Clinton river.
High heating, cooling bills, and taxes to match.
One is owned by a Jewelry store owner. They even have a stone gazebo attached to the house. Another similar cupola is the foyer with fresco's painted on the couffered cathedral ceiling.

Post# 991662 , Reply# 17   4/21/2018 at 15:48 by RP2813 (The Big Blue Bubble)        

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They spent a whole lot on staging, that's for sure.


Now that I'm fairly certain I'll be parting with my 2008 Affinity set and using the Neptune stack at the new house, I've been thinking about what I might do if the 14 year-old (but I'm thinking low mileage) Neptune washer gives up at some point.  The first thing that comes to mind is a SQ FL paired with a WP-sourced dryer.  They'd be in the basement, so I wouldn't care if they didn't match or weren't brand new.

Post# 991683 , Reply# 18   4/21/2018 at 17:15 by chetlaham (United States)        
SQ washer / WP dryer

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You will get your money's worth on both! SQ dryers are ok, but over rated IMO. Whirlpool on the other hand drys super fast and is delicate on clothes from my observation (medium heat). Other washers can't match a SQ FL or TL IMO. As Combo52 said you are buying a free washer- 1500 for something that will literally go 50 years. Not even Maytag could do that.

Ok- I'll be quiet for now LOL. I know I am a broken record at the moment... But you have to admit its a perfect couple :)

Post# 991705 , Reply# 19   4/21/2018 at 20:34 by fisherpaykel (BC Canada)        
Painted basement open ceiling

Interesting idea to simply paint the basement ceiling and mechanicals and leave easy repair access.

Post# 991721 , Reply# 20   4/21/2018 at 23:51 by tolivac (greenville nc)        

I go along with another on here-the place is BLAHHH,UGLY,BORING.Is there any color besides white here?The rec room is too dark-needs my CMH lights!Oh,I could fill the place with vacuums!The shot of the TV-GLARE on its screen-poorly placed.The window needs blackout shades or curtains to make the TV useable.I guess that's the "home theater"?Stick with the place I have!

Post# 991722 , Reply# 21   4/21/2018 at 23:55 by tolivac (greenville nc)        

Oh yes,tjhe kitchen looks too small,and also boring.Too little counter space-esp if you are a small appliance geek.The white makes it look like a mortuary embalming room.And no counter space for your embalming machine!

Post# 991734 , Reply# 22   4/22/2018 at 03:27 by chetlaham (United States)        

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@Tolvic: LOL

But ok everyone, I have a challenge: Post pics of homes which appeal to you :P

Post# 991743 , Reply# 23   4/22/2018 at 07:31 by vacerator (Macomb, Michigan)        
Here is one

recently listed and already has a pending deal.
Keller Williams central market agency. The homes address is public, so I'll post it. There are no interior photos in the listing. It's on a rather busy through street. The style is similar to ours. The asking price is/was $239,900.00.
The average price per square foot in that area is $140.00. It has roughly 1,600 sq. ft. 3 bedrms, 2 full baths, 2 car att. garage. Spacious kitchen and family room. I do not know if the basement is finished.
I can't believe they were offered that much. I wouldn't pay that much.
It does back up to a drainage easement, which is to be beautified into a park like setting soon. Maybe they are speculative of a value gain.
11453 Brougham, zip code 48312. Built around 1975-1980.

Post# 991745 , Reply# 24   4/22/2018 at 07:52 by vacerator (Macomb, Michigan)        
Oh, and bubbles always burst.

We paid $120,000 in 1995. It was a sellers market then as well. We needed a place to live. Inventory was a bit better than now. Move in condition also.
It appraised for $175,000 in 2002. Our neighbors sold in 2006 for less. The market crashed in 2007, and you could barely get $110,000.
The area used to appreciate in the 90's by $5,000 per year, but is older now.
We've done higher end finishes than we had in '95. I doubt we'd recoup our investment even though we did most of the work, so we are staying put.
My advice is buy a house that needs cosmetic work, one others pass up. fix it up, live there 5 to 7 years, and then sell. It's tricky to time the market because if you sell high, you have to pay more for a new house too.
We're too old to go any where more expensive. Our taxes are moderate, and it is ours outright now.
If the area declines, well, I'll be like Clint Eastwood in Gran Torino. I hope that doesn't happen. I figure, we have about 20 to 25 years yet to live and enjoy it.

Post# 991759 , Reply# 25   4/22/2018 at 11:03 by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, the Netherlands)        

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A link to that listing would be nice.

Post# 991760 , Reply# 26   4/22/2018 at 11:18 by GusHerb (Chicago/NWI)        

I would only like a home that big if it had radiant heating, and were overall built to be as energy efficient as possible (I know, a bit of an oxymoron being so big in the first place). I would probably choose a more traditional multi story floor plan for something so big (something that's not super sprawled out width wise) more like mansions of the early 1900s. If I wanted a sprawl I'd just build a ranch.

Post# 991763 , Reply# 27   4/22/2018 at 11:43 by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, the Netherlands)        

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Here's a link to a nice 1963 bungalow. It has been modernized, but with respect.

Post# 991793 , Reply# 28   4/22/2018 at 16:37 by vacerator (Macomb, Michigan)        
That is nice Louis!

I tried to get a link for you, but the listing agent is new in the business and young, and did not provide one on the mailer card. I will look at their web site again.
The seller is an elderly German retired machinist.
Can you Google the real estate office, or the address of the house?

Post# 991796 , Reply# 29   4/22/2018 at 17:10 by vacerator (Macomb, Michigan)        
No link,

I tried to e-mail you the listing and photos. It wouldn't allow me to.
You're not missing anything Louis.
No updates. It's stuck in 1980, except for a newer black top freezer fridge, and low end free standing range w stainless front, black handles.
No stone work tops, all formica. Brass and wood light fixtures, low end drop in lavatory basins, sheet vinyl flooring, older carpeting.
I don't know what this listing agent is thinking. The square footage says 1,770.
I can tell by the photos there is no way, because it is so similar to my homes floor plan. Same lot size also. I don't have a second main floor bath. It is in the basement.
But we do have an en suite style master/main bath with an entry off the master bedroomm, and off the pass hall. It's larger, at 11 ft. by 5 ft. We also have red oak floors, which were not put in homes here as standard flooring after 1970, because all the old forest growth lumber had been spent.
We've tastefully updated our home with transitional decor, tile, fixtures, Nickel accents, and all are high end. I think we could get at the most $199,000.
Our roof and exterior trim was done in 2005, and is vinyl and aluminum. The roof is supposed to be a 50 year roof. Architectural asphalt shingles. Furnace was new in 2008, 10 year pats warranty, 95% plus efficient. Water heater is from 2002, a 40 gallon capacity. We keep it at 135 F. so it has lasted long.

Post# 991797 , Reply# 30   4/22/2018 at 17:14 by vacerator (Macomb, Michigan)        
Oh, and it has

a wooden deck, requiring washing and staining. We have a 20 ft. by 20 ft. brick paver patio. When a brick paver shifts, I simply lift it out, add a bit if sand under, and replace. Then I sweep sand across the surface and seal it every few years to keep weeds at bay.

Post# 991806 , Reply# 31   4/22/2018 at 18:57 by Lorainfurniture (Cleveland )        

I will say that house is a bit too “McMansion” for me. A lot of long days shopping for decor at target with that one. I do like the kitchen appliances, I believe they are kitchenaid.

And John L is totally right. Their previous washer threw a bearing in 2 years and they bought a speed queen. I get customers like that all the time. Errr, well at least I used to.

Post# 991834 , Reply# 32   4/23/2018 at 00:51 by askolover (South of Nash Vegas, TN)        

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This is one of my dream homes, not far from me.


Post# 991857 , Reply# 33   4/23/2018 at 09:15 by vacerator (Macomb, Michigan)        
Nice Greg!

Even my Joe likes it, and he's not much for old antique anything.
My folks (both deceased now) have a Victorian 6 ft. long gated top, cathedral arched beveled glass 3 door china cabinet. It's a family heirloom, but only us or my youngest sister has room for it. She didn't really want it, but I convinced her cleaning it won't consume her life. Her electronic furnace air cleaner is shot. I told her husband to throw out the inside cells and get a passive pleated 3M type filter.
She has way less dust now.

Post# 991878 , Reply# 34   4/23/2018 at 12:41 by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, the Netherlands)        

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Post# 991923 , Reply# 35   4/23/2018 at 21:07 by vacerator (Macomb, Michigan)        
Yes Louis,

that's it. Too bad the inside isn't a reflection of the exterior.
My step daughter has a quad level like the grey one in the photo above it.
Sterling Heights is a young city. Incorporated in 1968. The last farm was subdivided in 1998.
Grew during the white flight years from Detroit following the 1967 riot.
It is the only suburb which grew from north to south. Warren grew south to north.
Hundreds of thousands of GM, Ford, and Chrysler employees were buying in during the tail end of the baby boom years through 1980.

Post# 992036 , Reply# 36   4/25/2018 at 00:28 by MattL (Flushing, MI)        

Wow, that is really an unattractive price for a so so house.

Post# 992053 , Reply# 37   4/25/2018 at 06:23 by vacerator (Macomb, Michigan)        
Yes Matt,

and the brokers think because of low inventory they can ask those prices.
A family needs a home, but paying so much for one which needs a large budget to update will put the value of that house under water. It will never appreciate enough to recoup the money.
This area does not have a market like Toronto for example, and it's even more difficult for folks up there to afford a starter home.
Other places also have a housing shortage. It drives up prices. The working poor end up renting.
I know of a Chaldean family who lost their store and house in the recession. they were renting a house, and the landlord hiked the rent so high, they had to move to an apartment. They are upper middle aged. The father is a tailor. At least his sons have found better jobs. The former landlord used to live there, and is also Chaldean, more successful. So much for helping out one of your own.
The house they were renting has been sold, but is also mediocre inside.

Post# 992098 , Reply# 38   4/25/2018 at 15:01 by wft2800 (Leatherhead, Surrey)        

That place is such a McMansion. It needs at least a radical remodelling (if not total replacement) by this chap...


Post# 992169 , Reply# 39   4/26/2018 at 07:09 by vacerator (Macomb, Michigan)        
Richard, are you being coy?

Those are gorgeous homes! Palaces!
A McMansion is a large house done quickly, with cheap low end fixtures and finishes.
Perhaps Britain has fewer than Australia, Canada, and the USA.
I even think Hyacinth Bucket's home is more tastefully done than many larger American homes are.
My parents first home where I grew up was built in 1943 for returning WW2 military buyers. While it was only 980 square feet on a basement, it had wet plaster, cove ceilings, cathedral arches in the lounge (living room) door way openings, nice mouldings and trim, red oak floors, and a nice ceramic tile bath, and kitchen. Also a bay window. The front door was heavy wood with 3 window panes at the top. We do not have doors closing off our living rooms from the rest of the house. Well, at least not swinging doors. Some quality homes in the 1950's had pocket doors between the kitchen, dining, and living rooms.

Post# 992403 , Reply# 40   4/28/2018 at 16:56 by wft2800 (Leatherhead, Surrey)        

I live in a fairly ordinary 3-bedroom semi-detached suburban house south of London, but it was built in 1903-4 and, firstly, it's built VERY solidly, and secondly, there's a pleasant 'rightness' to it, no unnecessary ornament, no ostentation, no pretentious bullshit. Sadly, just the other side of the M25, in the stockbroker/Chelsea footballer belt, we've got an increasing number of McMansions - or gin palaces, as we call 'em. Give me a simple humble Georgian farmhouse any day.

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