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Thread Number: 755
Top Loading H-Axis Combo Unit from Sanyo |
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Post# 51086 12/15/2004 at 03:46 (7,071 days old) by Launderess  (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Surfing around the web came upon this nifty unit. Have never seen a combo top loading H-axis unit before, only washers. Launderess CLICK HERE TO GO TO Launderess's LINK | ||
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Post# 51103 , Reply# 1 12/15/2004 at 07:34 (7,071 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie) |
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Post# 51117 , Reply# 2 12/15/2004 at 11:53 (7,071 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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Thanks for sharing that picture! The opening of this machine looks very much like the one the Miele toploaders have. Toploading H-axis washer dryers have been on the market in Europe for quite a while. Overhere both Brandt and AEG sell them. Since the space in a toploader is used more efficiently than in a frontloader and a combo has more parts than a washer these machines seem to be a horror to repair. The cabinets of those machines are really packed with parts.
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Post# 51126 , Reply# 3 12/15/2004 at 15:01 (7,070 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Here's Another Snap of the Sanyo AWD B860
Found another snap of the Sanyo combo unit to share. Just LOVE the styling, pity the washer is only sold in Japan. It may be sold elsewhere in the Far East, but that isn't doing us in the West any good. Louis, have used top loading H-axis washers in Europe and think either as a stand alone washer or combo unit they would sell well in North America. For one thing it would address the complaints many have about having to bend down to load/unload the washer. The Sanyo unit has three "doors", IIRC the washers I've used may have had two, but maybe three also, it has been awhile. Do you have any model numbers for the Miele or AEG units? Would love to compare. Sanyo used to sell washers and dryers in North America, wonder if they ever will export the B860 or similar type? Launderess CLICK HERE TO GO TO Launderess's LINK | ||
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Post# 51127 , Reply# 4 12/15/2004 at 15:02 (7,070 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Here's a link to translated sales information for the above washer.
CLICK HERE TO GO TO Launderess's LINK | ||
| Post# 51150 , Reply# 5 12/15/2004 at 21:28 (7,070 days old) by veg-o-matic (Baltimore, Hon!) | ||
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Post# 51156 , Reply# 6 12/15/2004 at 22:28 (7,070 days old) by arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia) |
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My prference for HA TL I still think I prefer this machine! Such a shame you cant watch the wash action in these machines, because they are fascinating pieces of equipment to look at! 
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Post# 51157 , Reply# 7 12/15/2004 at 23:59 (7,070 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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Miele toploaders
Launderess, the model numbers for the Miele toploaders have changed. The new numbers are W204, W207F, W212WPM, W237WPM and W247WPM. The 247 is the touchbutton model. You can find these machines on the German website. They have the honeycomb drum too. In the past Miele had a toploading combo, but now they only have toploading H-axis washers. I have never understood why the European companies don't sell their toploading models on the American market, I even mailed Miele and Bosch about it but they never responded. I will have to find a link for information on the AEG combo, it's still available but can't find anything about that machine at the moment. What I do know is that it's a model that needs frequent repairs. CLICK HERE TO GO TO foraloysius's LINK | ||
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Post# 51186 , Reply# 8 12/16/2004 at 08:11 (7,070 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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Louis
I think those H Axis Top Loaders are your passion machine!! It would be cool to play with one. I found a patent the other day on a Whirlpool H axis top loader. The nearest thing in prodcution over here is the new F&P top loader dryer with the Stainless Steel tub. AHve you seen that machine? Very cool machine.
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Post# 51197 , Reply# 9 12/16/2004 at 10:10 (7,070 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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Jon
Yes, I have a weak spot for the H-axis toploaders although many people will find them boring because you can't see what is going on inside the machine. I know the patent Whirlpool has, I found it some years ago. I was wondering if that one is still blocking the possibility of bringing these machines on the American market. I have indeed seen the F&P toploading dryer. And I have a special thing with it. F&P were claiming originally that it was a world's first. I mailed them and told them this was nothing new, that overhere in Europe we already had toploading dryers in the 60's and they were still available in Europe. That's why they changed their claim and now they say it's the world's first large capacity topload dryer.... | ||
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Post# 51325 , Reply# 10 12/18/2004 at 11:52 (7,068 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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AEG topload combo
Launderess, I found the AEG topload combo on the internet. I hope you understand a bit of German! CLICK HERE TO GO TO foraloysius's LINK | ||
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Post# 51333 , Reply# 11 12/18/2004 at 21:49 (7,067 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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Post# 51347 , Reply# 13 12/19/2004 at 02:53 (7,067 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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Older AEG toploader
Paulo, you are right. You need to dry a full load in two drying cycles. That's why they aren't very popular, at least overhere where people have room for a washer and a dryer. But for instance in Paris, where people live in "bijou" apartments you see them a lot. Jon, I found a picture of an older AEG toploader that is a washer only. And yes it can hold 10 pounds of laundry. And have you seen the pictures of my small AEG toploader? That one can still hold 9 pounds. Some toploaders like the combos are indeed 45cm, but there are also machines that are only 40cm wide, like the Philips I had. 
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Post# 51461 , Reply# 14 12/20/2004 at 18:39 (7,065 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Thank You Louis
For all the great snaps and information! The Miele and AEG top loading H-Axis washers are truly gorgeous. The top loading H-axis washer is such a great design as it allows the ease of top loading with the benefits of a front loader. Only down side I can see is capacity as I've never seen 16 or 18 pound capcity washers of this type, and that seems to be where the American front loader market is heading. Still a small (5-11 pounds) top loading h-axis washer would probably find a nice market. Combo units would also find themselves welcomed on this side of the pond. Launderess | ||
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Post# 51522 , Reply# 15 12/21/2004 at 13:57 (7,065 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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You're welcome
I guess it shows that I'm enthousiastic about this type of washer. The small capacity is basically caused by the small size of the cabinet. A few years ago I found a patent from Whirlpool on this type of machine. I guess they designed an American sized H-axis toploader. The capacity of this design must be enormous. Since I found that patent I'm wondering if that is perhaps stopping other manufacturers from selling their toploaders in the US. I think there would be a market for this machine. I'm really puzzled why Whirlpool brought out the Calypso instead of a machine like this. It has been suggested that the American consumer might find it too difficult to handle the flaps of the drum, but I think they can be made quite fool proof.
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| Post# 51559 , Reply# 17 12/22/2004 at 06:48 (7,064 days old) by agiflow () | ||
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Does the Staber use baffles in this machine or is the shape of the hexagon enough to tumble the clothes efficiently? | ||
| Post# 51598 , Reply# 18 12/22/2004 at 14:08 (7,064 days old) by bpetersxx (laf in on the banks of the Wabash River) | ||
staber and viewing
I sent an email message about windows on a staber so we could see in. This is the email Not now, but maybe sometime in the future. At least with our design you can open up the lid while it is washing to check things out. Regards, Chad Neal Staber Industries, Inc. www.staber.com... 1-800-848-6200 -----Original Message----- From: bdp [mailto:bpetersxx@earthlink.net...] Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 10:40 AM To: Chad Neal Subject: windows can clear glass windows be manufactured in. The laundry industry has taken an interest in seeing in washers and seeing the inside while it is operating | ||
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Post# 51603 , Reply# 19 12/22/2004 at 15:47 (7,063 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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I didn't forget about the Staber washers, but they're a bit of an odd one out. They don't have a service network, if there is something wrong you have to do the repair yourself. I think there was a thread about the Staber toploaders. I don't think the hexagonal drum has baffles, they don't need them. Perhaps they have a patent on the drum etc. I think the capacity is not very big considering the measurements of the cabinet.
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