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Thread Number: 75501
/ Tag: Modern Automatic Washers
Newbie needs advice for a new top load washer. |
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Post# 993477 , Reply# 1 5/8/2018 at 02:31 (2,172 days old) by thomasortega  (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula) |
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And yhy a top loader? Front loaders are much better than those modern top loaders that don't use water. | ||
| Post# 993481 , Reply# 2 5/8/2018 at 03:24 (2,172 days old) by speedqueen (Metro-Detroit) | ||
The new Maytag commercial | ||
| Post# 993488 , Reply# 3 5/8/2018 at 07:09 (2,172 days old) by dsell (Kansas) | ||
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Well Thomas, that's the easiest question I've had for a while. The answer, my wife doesn't like the looks of the front loaders. The Centennial would have been 5 years old in June 2018 and it was only used by my wife and I with occasional company. | ||
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Post# 993492 , Reply# 4 5/8/2018 at 07:35 (2,172 days old) by logixx (Germany) |
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Post# 993494 , Reply# 5 5/8/2018 at 08:26 (2,172 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains) |
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Hi and Welcome! A few thoughts on your situation. First, if a top loader (TL) is the only washer in question, then you're going to have three categories to chose from: 1) 2017 or earlier new Speed Queen (not the 2018 models, they were redesigned and don't work well). 2) Another member of the Whirlpool family - under the hood, they're basically all the same. 3) A well-serviced Whirlpool direct drive or Maytag from their good era.
As to the other problems, here's an interesting situation: Vinegar with some detergent residues as well as vinegar with some forms of hard water causes worse problems with deposits than citric acid. | ||
| Post# 993525 , Reply# 8 5/8/2018 at 13:15 (2,172 days old) by speedqueen (Metro-Detroit) | ||
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| Post# 993533 , Reply# 9 5/8/2018 at 14:34 (2,172 days old) by dsell (Kansas) | ||
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Wichita and Salina are my Craigslist options. | ||
| Post# 993541 , Reply# 10 5/8/2018 at 16:12 (2,172 days old) by speedqueen (Metro-Detroit) | ||
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Here are a few DDs in Wichita
wichita.craigslist.org/app/d/was...
Newer, but bottom of the line. wichita.craigslist.org/app/d/was... Could use a cleaning, but a TOL Kenmore model with all possible features. wichita.craigslist.org/app/d/was... Older Kenmore wichita.craigslist.org/app/d/was... Well featured and from a dealer w/ warranty wichita.craigslist.org/ppd/d/was... | ||
| Post# 993542 , Reply# 11 5/8/2018 at 16:17 (2,172 days old) by speedqueen (Metro-Detroit) | ||
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Now from Salina
Older Whirlpool
salina.craigslist.org/app/d/whir... I wish to add, with these prices versus new, even if it lasts only four years, you are still ahead versus paying full new price, $300+, and having the same happen. All of what I posted is for less than just the trans cost of a new VMW belt-drive Whirlpool. | ||
| Post# 993558 , Reply# 12 5/8/2018 at 21:12 (2,172 days old) by dsell (Kansas) | ||
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I had the 1st one on the list before we bought the Centennial. It lasted a long time, but when the tranny went out, I took it apart but I couldn't figure out what was wrong. | ||
| Post# 993560 , Reply# 13 5/8/2018 at 21:46 (2,172 days old) by speedqueen (Metro-Detroit) | ||
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| Post# 993566 , Reply# 14 5/8/2018 at 22:48 (2,171 days old) by twintubdexter (Palm Springs) | ||
I'm ready for "The Home"... | ||
| Post# 993596 , Reply# 17 5/9/2018 at 08:56 (2,171 days old) by speedqueen (Metro-Detroit) | ||
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If the tub ever ended up fill of water, I would first suspect the pump as these models are neutral drain and no matter how spin performance is, it should never end up full of water. The timer could (extreamly unlikely) also be failing to initiate the drain and spin at all. Without that evidence I would have said the spin clutch or coupler.
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| Post# 993598 , Reply# 18 5/9/2018 at 10:08 (2,171 days old) by dsell (Kansas) | ||
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Speedqueen, the coupler and water pump were new. Still have spares of each hanging on my garage wall. I wondered about the timer, but the timer didn't explain the noise. | ||
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Post# 993603 , Reply# 19 5/9/2018 at 11:17 (2,171 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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| Post# 993604 , Reply# 20 5/9/2018 at 11:25 (2,171 days old) by dsell (Kansas) | ||
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DADoES, The Centennial is a VMW design. MVWC360AW0 uses W11035747 gearcase. Speedqueen and I are discussing the machine I had before the Centennial. He found one on Craigslist exactly like the direct drive I had 5 years ago. wichita.craigslist.org/app/d/was... | ||
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Post# 993622 , Reply# 21 5/9/2018 at 14:56 (2,171 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula) |
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Wait...
Replace the washer because it ended the cycle full of water? whaaaaaat? | ||
| Post# 993623 , Reply# 22 5/9/2018 at 15:21 (2,171 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada) | ||
desell
desell,
maybe you should check if your washer do not simply need a new motor I know by experience I had an old direct drive inglis superbII was just a few days after movbing in it was evening had laundry to do go to put the clothes in the dryer washer was still full of water set it on final spin to have the washer drain out the water the washer only hum and buzz called in a tech and turns out the washer needed a motor replacement cost lest today to have your washer repaired than buy a whole new set | ||
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Post# 993624 , Reply# 23 5/9/2018 at 15:33 (2,171 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula) |
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| Post# 993627 , Reply# 24 5/9/2018 at 15:47 (2,171 days old) by good-shepherd (New Jersey) | ||
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the Speed Queeen changed design, I was seriously considering Call around to some local dealers, you may luck out and find a place that has the older model Speed Queen on hand, or knows who does. I think combo52 mentioned a while ago he still had a leftover Speed Queen in stock. | ||
| Post# 993635 , Reply# 25 5/9/2018 at 16:07 (2,171 days old) by good-shepherd (New Jersey) | ||
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Speed Queen How about this: www.appliancesconnection.... | ||
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Post# 993703 , Reply# 28 5/10/2018 at 02:24 (2,170 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula) |
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To prevent mold, that's easy.. | ||
| Post# 993713 , Reply# 29 5/10/2018 at 07:04 (2,170 days old) by dsell (Kansas) | ||
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thomasortega, We don't use bleach or hot water. Do we need to make a weekly routine of running the clean cycle? Or, just drop some rags in and run it on hot with bleach once a week? How much bleach? | ||
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Post# 993718 , Reply# 31 5/10/2018 at 08:03 (2,170 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains) |
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Citric Acid One of the members, Laundress, could give you a more detailed explanation but, yes, you can add a small amount of citric acid to the final rinse or use a larger amount to remove mineral buildup in a warm wash. Which brings us to a bit of a conundrum. If you don't use hot water and you don't use chlorine bleach and you don't use a strong detergent... You're going to have to adapt your washing patterns to compensate.
I'm not saying you can't get the cleaning you need without them, but there's a real problem with the current top loading products on the market: They just don't clean well without the most advanced (means aggressive) enzymatic cleaners and the least soiled clothes possible using their standard programs.
The first step is to find one of the strong cleaners which is acceptable to you. Ammonia? That one goes back thousands of years and works well, even in colder water. Borax? Can work wonders, but you'll want to dissolve it in some hot water and pour it in, first. Baking Soda? Not to be dismissed.
If you're not going to use chlorine bleach, you're going to have to find something else to regularly kill off the mold/microbes/yech building up in your machine. I have a friend here in Cheyenne who is fully eco/coldwater/natural foods grocer's style washing powder, etc. Once a month, he runs a HOT water wash with a strong detergent and adds chlorine bleach to the bleach dispenser. We worked on his 20+ year old Whirlpool a while back, it was quite surprisingly clean inside.
I hope you get everything resolved to your satisfaction. Keep us up to date! | ||
| Post# 993723 , Reply# 32 5/10/2018 at 08:44 (2,170 days old) by dsell (Kansas) | ||
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Here is another thought to my new machine. How often should I change the tub seal, W10006371 for WTW4816FW2 machine? Obviously, I shouldn't wait 5 years or until the machine makes noise. Change it every year? 2 years? It's a $21 part and fairly easy to access. | ||
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Post# 993732 , Reply# 33 5/10/2018 at 10:18 (2,170 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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| Post# 993733 , Reply# 34 5/10/2018 at 10:35 (2,170 days old) by dsell (Kansas) | ||
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I'm sorry I ever mentioned the old direct drive machine that I replaced 5 years ago with the Centennial. That obviously has people seriously confused. The (5 year old Centennial) and (Whirlpool machine that I bought this week) are VMW machines. | ||
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Post# 993734 , Reply# 35 5/10/2018 at 10:43 (2,170 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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Ohhhh, you're talking about your previous/old machine, a WP direct-drive model, regards to ending a cycle full of water? That's an odd situation I'd like to have seen first-hand being that the pump on those is direct-drive on the motor and it doesn't have much choice other than to drain when the motor runs in the correct direction. | ||
| Post# 993738 , Reply# 36 5/10/2018 at 10:50 (2,170 days old) by Washerlad2014 (Teignmouth,Devon,UK) | ||
Rcommended washers
For a front loader i recommend frigidare or whirlpool duets. For a top loader i recommend speed queens or Whirlpool Cabrios but i dont know alot about american machines cuz im from the UK
CLICK HERE TO GO TO Washerlad2014's LINK | ||
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Post# 993784 , Reply# 38 5/10/2018 at 14:43 (2,170 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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| Post# 993785 , Reply# 39 5/10/2018 at 14:45 (2,170 days old) by dsell (Kansas) | ||
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DADoES, what do you paint with? Primer? I need to paint the top of my white dryer. | ||
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