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Thread Number: 75654
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Post# 994725 5/20/2018 at 15:21 (2,161 days old) by Supersuds  (Knoxville, Tenn.) |
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Look out for the mayochup! From the Wall Street Journal:
It’s mayhem in the mayonnaise aisle. Hellmann’s maker Unilever and Kraft Heinz Co., which owns Miracle Whip, are cutting prices and slinging out new concoctions as they battle changing eating habits, a dizzying array of new competitors and each other. The two, which together account for more than 80% of U.S. mayonnaise sales, are duking it out because they are at risk of losing shelf space to faster-growing rivals. U.S. sales of mayonnaise fell 6.7% between 2012 and 2017, according to Euromonitor. Small mayonnaise brands, though, which made up just 3.2% of the market six years ago, have almost doubled their share and last year made up 6.1%. **** Miracle Whip and Kraft Mayo, Kraft Heinz’s other big mayonnaise brand, have been squeezed between less-costly offerings on one end, and Hellmann’s and other premium brands on the other. Miracle Whip—which doesn’t call itself “mayonnaise” because its oil content doesn’t match food regulators’ definition—lost almost 1 percentage point of U.S. market share between 2015 and 2017. It and Kraft Mayo have just over 30% of the market, according to Euromonitor. Ms. Healy said Kraft Heinz is engaged in a mayo push, last month launching a new brand—Heinz Mayo—that uses simple ingredients and cage-free eggs. The company also is developing a mayonnaise-ketchup combination that it is calling “mayochup.” Hellmann’s, called Best Foods west of the Rockies, has raced ahead. While overall mayonnaise sales have declined, it boosted its U.S. market share by 3.5 percentage points in the past three years and now has just over 50% of the U.S. market. Hellmann’s and Kraft Mayo have come out with new flavors and variations, such as avocado-oil mayonnaise and roasted garlic and spicy chipotle flavors. Kraft revamped the Miracle Whip recipe last year, going back to its original ingredients and replacing high fructose corn syrup with sugar. “It was a huge investment for us,” said Eduardo Luz, president of Kraft Heinz’s U.S. grocery business. CLICK HERE TO GO TO Supersuds's LINK | ||
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Post# 994735 , Reply# 1 5/20/2018 at 16:25 (2,161 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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Post# 994737 , Reply# 2 5/20/2018 at 16:43 (2,161 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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| Post# 994739 , Reply# 3 5/20/2018 at 17:15 (2,161 days old) by rickr (.) | ||
I purchase Dukes, now that it is available here in the North. My Great Aunt Maxine, who lived in League City Texas used it, and when we would visit, and I loved it! Mom used Miracle Whip back in the 1960's, and even as a child, I thought that product was far too sweet. So we used Hellmanns until Dukes came available here. Dukes is really good! I love the slight vinegar flavour. I noticed Dukes are now offering a lite version. Has anyone tried it?
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Post# 994740 , Reply# 4 5/20/2018 at 17:43 (2,160 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey) |
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I buy the Burman's brand from ALDI, scoop it into the Hellman's jar, no one knows the difference....
same goes for peanut butter, cereal, coffee..... heck, you could refill the water bottles from the tap....kids still drink it its like taking the Pepsi Challenge, and choosing Jif! besides, everyone knows, free range chicken eggs cost more, and taste a WHOLE lot different than caged ones.... | ||
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Post# 994753 , Reply# 5 5/20/2018 at 19:37 (2,160 days old) by lakewebsterkid (Dayton, Ohio) |
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Miracle Whip How the hell do people eat Miracle Whip? It is nearly vomit inducing. I agree, Burman's Mayo is what we prefer as well. This is starting to remind me of a particular laundry detergent brand that is using a similar strategy. | ||
| Post# 994757 , Reply# 6 5/20/2018 at 20:27 (2,160 days old) by Dustin92 (Jackson, MI) | ||
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Miracle Whip = Blegh! Too sweet and texture is like some sort of gel!. I much prefer Mayonnaise of any brand, not too picky. Even store brand "salad dressing" is better than Miracle whip. | ||
| Post# 994759 , Reply# 7 5/20/2018 at 21:03 (2,160 days old) by beekeyknee (Columbia, MO) | ||
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Post# 994772 , Reply# 8 5/21/2018 at 00:39 (2,160 days old) by MattL (Flushing, MI) |
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HATE mayo, will not use it, or have it in the house. Never have, never will. Miracle Whip all the way. Mayo is thick and slimy tasting to me. Like the bite of Miracle Whip. (I will admit it was better before they tweaked the formula, but still miles ahead of mayo...) | ||
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Post# 994773 , Reply# 9 5/21/2018 at 00:55 (2,160 days old) by RP2813 (Sannazay) |
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Post# 994821 , Reply# 12 5/21/2018 at 12:54 (2,160 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains) |
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You either like it or you don't. | ||
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Post# 994828 , Reply# 13 5/21/2018 at 14:11 (2,160 days old) by joelippard (Hickory) |
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Post# 994829 , Reply# 14 5/21/2018 at 14:24 (2,160 days old) by ea56 (Cotati, Calif.) |
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Best Foods when only the best will do! Its what I’ve used all my life it is consistently good and never disappoints. If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it. I’ve tried Kraft in the past, when the store was out of Best Foods and it wasn’t bad, but its not Best Foods. It’s worth the price and I always have two extra jars on hand as backup, so I never again have to settle for something else in a pinch.
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Post# 994836 , Reply# 15 5/21/2018 at 16:35 (2,160 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI) |
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Here are the few things that I put mayonnaise on:
Yes, because it does make an interesting "secret sauce" with ketchup (though often, I think you can get away with tartar sauce,--which most "secret sauces do--and that only adds pickles, and why just for sea food?!), and I guess you need it as a "foundation" for horseradish & you sometimes need to tame it... Of which I (due in part for it to be the entire word, "Mayonnaise", not just (because they don't know how to spell?) MAYO!) am definitely a HELLMAN'S Guy!!!! Now, I believe Hellman's does put a chicken recipe on back of their jars, (which I made a couple times) but I somehow I cannot find, from either time, the pictures of... -- Dave | ||
| Post# 994898 , Reply# 16 5/22/2018 at 07:29 (2,159 days old) by glomain (tuscarawas cnty. (eastern ohio)) | ||
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Post# 994899 , Reply# 17 5/22/2018 at 07:35 (2,159 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI) |
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Post# 994902 , Reply# 18 5/22/2018 at 07:58 (2,159 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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| Post# 994910 , Reply# 19 5/22/2018 at 10:11 (2,159 days old) by firedome (Binghamton NY & Lake Champlain VT) | ||
Used to be Hellman's...
until we tried Dukes, which wasn't available in NY so we used to smuggle it home in the luggage when visiting family in Florida. Now Weis carries it, so have to go there occasionally instead of Wegman's.
As for Miracle Whip: imho the work of the devil and deserves to die! Mom made everything with that stuff and it made me want to hurl... it wasn't until I discovered real mayo at a neighbor's house that I'd I eat egg salad or tuna salad or anything else that had "salad cream", as the Brits call their version, in it. | ||
| Post# 994911 , Reply# 20 5/22/2018 at 10:13 (2,159 days old) by firedome (Binghamton NY & Lake Champlain VT) | ||
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does anyone else... | ||
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Post# 994912 , Reply# 21 5/22/2018 at 10:27 (2,159 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey) |
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besides the typical sandwiches and salads, where else have you used/added Mayonnaise?
added into cake mixes, like chocolate cake recipe, has turned out a very moist cake.... brushed on chicken or pork chops, and then breaded....cook, fry, bake as usual... some house plants benefit from brushing a layer on their leaves...... I even heard of people using it on their hair as a conditioner.... | ||
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Post# 994923 , Reply# 22 5/22/2018 at 11:34 (2,159 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI) |
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Did I forget to post a pic of the AMKrayoMayoChocolateCake????
Here she is:
-- Dave | ||
| Post# 994936 , Reply# 23 5/22/2018 at 13:32 (2,159 days old) by twintubdexter (Palm Springs) | ||
 I always thought Miracle Whip was supposed to be more of a salad dressing than another mayo. But for those who like it I say go for it. I see that like everything else, Duke's is available on Amazon for $16.49 for 2 quarts (guess it sounds like more if you say a half-gallon) with Prime shipping. That's not cheap but probably worth it since members rave about it. I might give it a try. I'm a Best Foods mayo pig myself. A 1/4 cup's about right for a good-sized sandwich. | ||
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Post# 994955 , Reply# 24 5/22/2018 at 16:42 (2,159 days old) by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada) |
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| Post# 994979 , Reply# 25 5/23/2018 at 03:39 (2,158 days old) by arbilab (Ft Worth TX (Ridglea)) | ||
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Post# 1153138 , Reply# 26 7/2/2022 at 21:22 (656 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI) |
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Post# 1153168 , Reply# 28 7/3/2022 at 08:39 (656 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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Post# 1153179 , Reply# 29 7/3/2022 at 10:18 (656 days old) by chachp (North Little Rock, AR) |
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Reply #27
Don't have much use for Miracle Whip. No particular reason - just not a taste I grew up with. but I guess to each their own.
I have to agree on Miracle Whip. We grew up on Hellman's and that's all I ever buy. We didn't use a lot in our house until we got a panini maker. Now that we make those fairly often, we use a lot more.
I have heard a lot of good things about Duke's and. I saw it somewhere. Maybe it was Whole Foods. I'm not sure but if I see it again I am going to try it. | ||
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Post# 1153213 , Reply# 31 7/3/2022 at 13:50 (656 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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Post# 1153222 , Reply# 32 7/3/2022 at 15:58 (656 days old) by ea56 (Cotati, Calif.) |
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When Only the Best Will Do Use Best Foods
I buy Best Foods, the West of the Rockies equivalent of Hellmans. I’ve used it all my life and don’t intend to change. Its now $4.99 at Target for the 30 oz. jar. My brother lives on Sea Ranch, about 65 miles north of here and he tells me that a 30 oz. jar of Best Foods mayonnaise is $12.49 in the nearest grocery store to him. Thats simply outrageous!
When I spend good money on the ingredients for a Potato or Macaroni Salad, or lunchmeat for a sandwich I don’t want the off taste some bargain brand of mayonnaise may give the finished product. And I can tell the difference and so can my husband David. Eddie | ||
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Post# 1153249 , Reply# 33 7/3/2022 at 21:34 (655 days old) by luxflairguy (Wilmington NC) |
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I live these days in Wilmington NC. I know Duke's in the mayonnaise "of choice" down here, but I find it lacking in flavor and thin in spreading. Give me Best Foods/Hellman's any days! Greg | ||
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Post# 1153265 , Reply# 34 7/4/2022 at 00:36 (655 days old) by SudsMaster (SF Bay Area, California) |
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 I concur with Eddie. Out West here the western equivalent of Hellman's is Best Foods. It's very good.
I'm a big fan of mayo. It started when I was a starving college student and learned that mayonnaise is a health food: it includes vegetable oil with all its benefits, such as omega 3 fatty acids, as well as eggs. No sandwich seems complete without mayo. I also put it on burgers. | ||
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Post# 1153275 , Reply# 35 7/4/2022 at 03:14 (655 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI) |
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Miracle Whip, I keep that jar of—handy to have but little difference in taste between it and a well-made Mayo, Duke’s seems to offer, though a chain’s private label offers the same thing cheaper…
Sandwich spread such as Kraft or a store’s private label is a way I would often go, while my daughter in her experimental fashion bought an all-vegetable mayo, only to lose internet leaving me to finish her big jar of veganayonaise … — Dave | ||
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Post# 1153330 , Reply# 36 7/4/2022 at 15:41 (655 days old) by petek (Ontari ari ari O ) |
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| Post# 1153333 , Reply# 37 7/4/2022 at 15:47 (655 days old) by Awooff (Peoria, Illinois) | ||
Homemade
Just about now finished with my first jar of mayo (havent bought mayo in years). -Had a weakness at the store for soybean oil mayo and picked up a jar for 5 bucks lol.
Been making and freezing olive oil mayo for a while now. Its so damn easy to make in a food processor! -Can flovor it anyway you want ie garlic, pepper, italian seasoning, you name it! | ||
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Post# 1153362 , Reply# 38 7/4/2022 at 19:15 (654 days old) by CircleW (NE Cincinnati OH area) |
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I was in GFS today, and saw they had Duke's Heavy Duty Mayonnaise. It comes in a one gallon jar, and was somewhere around $18. Good if you're making a lot of potato or macaroni salad. I was surprised that Miracle Whip was more expensive for the same size. | ||
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Post# 1153457 , Reply# 39 7/5/2022 at 20:18 (653 days old) by lakewebsterkid (Dayton, Ohio) |
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Duke’s I have noticed that the stuff is everywhere now! I’m gonna give it a try here soon! | ||
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Post# 1154233 , Reply# 41 7/13/2022 at 19:29 (645 days old) by bradfordwhite (central U.S.) |
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Post# 1154250 , Reply# 43 7/13/2022 at 20:49 (645 days old) by ea56 (Cotati, Calif.) |
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Matt, I used to LOVE Miracle Whip when I was a little kid. My paternal grandparents always used it. We always had Best Foods at home because Mom hated Miracle Whip.
I especially loved Pickle and Pimento Loaf sandwiches made on fresh white bread with Miracle Whip. And my grandma made delicious Macaroni Salad with Miracle Whip. I haven’t tasted it in years. But I do like the sweet and sour flavor that it imparts to Macaroni Salad. I use sweet pickle relish in Mac Salad to impart that flavor. Eddie | ||
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Post# 1154644 , Reply# 44 7/18/2022 at 22:12 (640 days old) by SudsMaster (SF Bay Area, California) |
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Post# 1154648 , Reply# 45 7/18/2022 at 22:26 (640 days old) by MattL (Flushing, MI) |
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I'd guess it's an acquired taste as mayo is for me... | ||
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Post# 1154661 , Reply# 46 7/19/2022 at 01:28 (640 days old) by SudsMaster (SF Bay Area, California) |
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Post# 1154668 , Reply# 47 7/19/2022 at 10:05 (640 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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3 "memories" from childhood
The following were items used by my mom in childhood. I think my mom opted for all 3 because they were less expensive than the real thing. Let's just say that when I discovered the real deal for each of the items it was like I'd graduated and moved up in the world. And that was from experiences from college apartment mates or my own discovery once on my own and wanted to experience what the alternative real thing was.
Firstly Miracle Whip which then moved on to Mayo. Next was Wallgreen's Mellorine. My parents did have an electric ice cream maker sometime during high school or college. But they always used some sort of ice cream mix from a box and I don't thinnk they used whole milk. Didn't pay attention. However, when I was served Blue Bell ice cream as an adult after college, there was no looking back. Margarine, on to butter. Growing up, there was butter in the house, but it was only for my mom s something in margarine caused digesstive issues for her. Eddie, I also had pickel & pimento loaf sandwiches. All sandwiches in childhood had mustard only. The exception was tuna salad. | ||
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Post# 1154677 , Reply# 48 7/19/2022 at 11:54 (640 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI) |
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On the evening presentation of Masterpiece Theater on the PBS station, it was brought to you by Kraft so my sister and I sat by the TV with mom just to watch the commercials!
Among them was Miracle Whip, Mayonnaise, Salad Dressings, Cheeses, Marshmallows, and the Barbecue Sauce being put right on some chicken, among dozens of other products… I think when we went shopping we convinced mom to buy the Kraft products advertised over the way-cheaper store brands… — Dave | ||
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Post# 1154681 , Reply# 49 7/19/2022 at 13:08 (640 days old) by ea56 (Cotati, Calif.) |
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Dave I think you may have be remembering Kraft Theater. Masterpiece Theater on PBS didn’t have any commercials years ago. There were also other specials during the year that had Kraft as their sponsor and these shows also had the parade of Kraft product recipes. I can’t remember the names of these shows now, but I can see these commercials in my minds eye and hear the distinctive voice of the announcer.
But Kraft Theater did have some very enticing commercials with recipes using all of their products that were mouthwatering to watch. I especially recall the Caramel Apples using Kraft Caramels during the Fall. I’ll bet you and your siblings weren’t alone encouraging your parents to buy all these Kraft products in the grocery store. TV was a big driver of grocery sales back in the 50’s, 60’s and 70’s. Eddie | ||
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Post# 1154685 , Reply# 50 7/19/2022 at 13:39 (640 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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Post# 1154686 , Reply# 51 7/19/2022 at 13:58 (640 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI) |
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Post# 1154697 , Reply# 52 7/19/2022 at 15:19 (640 days old) by petek (Ontari ari ari O ) |
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When Brian Mulroney became PM of Canada back in the 80's I always thought he sounded much like the guy who narrated those Kraft Theater commercials.. Take a listen and imagine him describing how to add Miracle Whip to fruit salad in fluted pan and chilling in the fridge for 60 minutes.
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Post# 1154755 , Reply# 53 7/19/2022 at 20:49 (639 days old) by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada) |
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Post# 1154784 , Reply# 54 7/20/2022 at 02:25 (639 days old) by SudsMaster (SF Bay Area, California) |
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