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Post# 996142   6/4/2018 at 08:04 by adam-aussie-vac (Canberra ACT)        

Does anyone know if a company has made a solid tub washer in the last 50 years? The closest thing I have to a solid tub washer is my seimens spin dryer which only has slots in the bottom of the drum but still does a good job at 3709 rpm, also on a partially related note, when did spin dryer drums start to have holes in drum wall?




Post# 996144 , Reply# 1   6/4/2018 at 08:34 by combo52 (Beltsville,Md)        
Last US Built Solid Tub Automatic Washers

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Were the late 70s SQs, and the compact Frigidaire 24" wide washers with the agitub one piece tub and agitator built till around 1980.

John L.


Post# 996190 , Reply# 2   6/4/2018 at 17:48 by brisnat81 (Brisbane Australia)        

Hey Adam,

In Australia we had the Simpson Fluid drives up until the late 70's.

Cheers

Nathan


Post# 996359 , Reply# 3   6/6/2018 at 11:07 by sesteve (London, UK)        
Servis

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Hi Adam

We had the Servis quartz here with its spincare drum. It had slots at the front and back and was slightly bevelled to the middle. Here are two different models with the same drum. It was designed to be more gentle on clothes.

S


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Post# 996428 , Reply# 4   6/7/2018 at 03:50 by askolover (South of Nash Vegas, TN)        
Sharp

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But I don't know about its availability outside of Asia.





Post# 996616 , Reply# 5   6/9/2018 at 02:16 by thomasortega (Los Angeles - CA)        

Electrolux has a model in Brazil..

Not exactly solid, but it has just a few holes (less than 10 maybe)


Post# 996617 , Reply# 6   6/9/2018 at 04:56 by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London UK)        
Kawasaki

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Not just motor bikes apparently.

The washer may be good, bad or indifferent, but its a great video






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Post# 996619 , Reply# 7   6/9/2018 at 07:41 by Stricklybojack (San Diego, CA)        

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That Kawasaki video is excellent.
"if you're only going to watch one washer video this year...."


Post# 996668 , Reply# 8   6/9/2018 at 16:35 by zel (USA)        
Interesting

Advertised as "new" it is a very old concept. Nearly all the top load machines from the 50's were solid tub design. It also brings up an interesting point about bacteria and gunk that perforated tub machines to seem to accumulate. Years ago in some areas of the country perforated tub machines were considered unsanitary in laundromats due to the remaining water in the pumps and outer tub at the end of the cycle. That was back when Speed Queen ruled for laundromats.

Post# 996750 , Reply# 9   6/10/2018 at 14:29 by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Again many modern H-Axis and top loading washing machines

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Even with two tubs (suds container and outer drum) use far less water than in past. Thus any savings with a solid tub washer would be negated by other issues such as loss of pressure fill, having to clean inner tub/suds container, and so forth.

Comparing holes in suds container of my older Miele W1070 and Oko-Lavamat you can see the latter already has much smaller. The new "diamond" or whatever inner drum craze started by Miele (and now widely copied) has reduced hole diameter still more.

Miele's stated goals for their new tub was fabric care (much like the Servis noted above), but those tiny holes also mean less water goes between the tubs.


Post# 996757 , Reply# 10   6/10/2018 at 16:13 by keymatic3203 (Cardiff UK)        
What would Betty Furness Say

would it pass the sand test?

Think they are just reinventing the wheel.


Post# 996765 , Reply# 11   6/10/2018 at 17:24 by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        

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That sand test is about as obsolete as the girdles worn by Ms. Betty Furness and the other ladies.

Few if any households today generate that type of laundry today. Maybe lifeguards on a beach have things with sand, but who else?

Young children (prime generator of dirty clothing back in the day) spend more time indoors or whatever (such as playing video games or other tech things), than running around in dirt/mud. Haven't seen a sandbox at a playground in years. Though maybe they are still out there elsewhere.

Majority of laundry today ranks between lightly soiled (with body dirt mostly) to perhaps food and drink stains. It is one of reasons why powdered detergents are being so easily given the push by liquids. Much less laundry is generated covered in "clay" based soils. Sweat, oils, and similar, that they've got.


Post# 996766 , Reply# 12   6/10/2018 at 17:31 by cuffs054 (MONTICELLO, GA)        

This relates directly to my post "old is new again". To me it seems a no brainer. You could use less water and get more coverage of the load.


Post# 996813 , Reply# 13   6/10/2018 at 23:57 by tolivac (greenville nc)        

Sandboxes went away because cats used them as litter boxes-would you want your kid playing in that?For homes-household litter boxes had a cover for them when not being used by kids.The cover kept the cats out.Haven't seen sandboxes since I was a little kid!

Post# 996888 , Reply# 14   6/11/2018 at 19:39 by combo52 (Beltsville,Md)        
Sand And Grit Is Still Just As Much In Laundry As It Was

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In the 50s and on through the present, fortunately it is not a great problem because washers today deal with it very well unlike most solid tub washers did, in fact lint,  re despoted scum and sand and grit problems were what did in solid tub automatic washers.

 

Even the better early AWs dealt with sand, grit and scum very well, of course the best selling maker WP & KM never had any problem along with Bendix FL washers, Westinghouse, Blackstone and even the ST GE FF  washers were pretty decent on getting rid of sand and grit, so it was only a number of ST washers that really had problems and we all know what happened to all of them.

 

John L.





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