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Post# 998259   6/24/2018 at 15:27 (2,124 days old) by Huebschman (Quebec, CA)        

Decided to open up the front panel of my 2009 Huebsh just out of curiosity. Had some trouble with one of the screw and had to use the wrench instead of flat screwdriver.

There was rust. Nothing major but after 9 years of service, perfectly normal for any machine this age per technician. Bolt-screws, front panel, suspension springs and floor were affected.

As I watched my washer operate with the front panel off I realized that the whirlwind caused by the the spin during the spray rince causes droplets of water to enter the housing. Consistent with the location of the rust.

Surgery: Rust to be scrubbed out. Floor and front panel to be painted. Bolt-screws just needed be cleaned. No need to have them replace. Same for suspension springs. Rust inhibit to be added to some parts. Minor leak detected from the internal part of drain hose and will be replaced.

So this is just to remind you; manual suggest a check-up with a service technician every 5 years. Just do it. It is a quality machine and an investment. You wouldn't go this long with your car would you? Not cheap... It is gonna cost me between $300 and $400 but I consider it well worth it and have full confidence with technician business I am dealing with.

Please take some time during this summer vacation period to give your quality washer the care it deserves.

Take care you all and have a great summer! This community is the reason why I found this washer in the first place.




Post# 998274 , Reply# 1   6/24/2018 at 17:14 (2,124 days old) by henene4 (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany))        
Ok, just to make this clear...

 You pay 1500$ for a verry basic FL.

That has a rust issue caused by a construction error (really, sealing a wash unit is the verry basic level of FL construction).

That you need to rework yourself now.

Having the rusting parts redone professionally would be a major repair coming in at least at 1000$.

And to prevent that you are supposed to invest 300$ every 5 years?



This washer - supposedly - lasts 50 years. And would be oh so good an investment thus.

So now, the overal cost of owning this machine for 50 years goes up to 1500$ plus AT LEAST 3000$ in service?

4500$ buys you 6 up to date midrange FLs.


You honestly still support this company?


Edit: Just realized the 432 in the title.

Dosen't change my point though...

Post# 998363 , Reply# 2   6/25/2018 at 12:12 (2,123 days old) by Huebschman (Quebec, CA)        
Ok, just to make this clear...

 Did pay $1080.00 for the washer. Confident about the quality and longevity of the machine.

I just meant to say that I opened it up out of curiosity and decided to take proactive maintenance measures.

Open up any steel tub/basket washer after 10 years and decide on your own. Rust will be there.

Had I I not decided to open it up... no biggy, it still would have lasted the same... I just decided to cough out some dough on the maintenance although not necessary (but the drain hose problem was identified).

I just got curious... and made a decision to maintain.

Post# 998365 , Reply# 3   6/25/2018 at 12:38 (2,123 days old) by Huebschman (Quebec, CA)        

...and what is that 50 years crap...


Post# 998414 , Reply# 4   6/26/2018 at 04:59 (2,122 days old) by henene4 (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany))        

I said that I missed yours was a TL, based my math on a FL.

But for you, because you were so nice, friendly and cosidered (*cough*) I'll redo the math for you.



You pay about 900$ for a washer that has far below average efficency and maybe average performance, but as it supposedly lasts 25 years, that is fine.

But then you have to pay 300$ every 5 years, raising the overall cost of owning that machine for 25 years to above 2000$, not including that that washer uses double the water then alternative, cheaper maxhines.

Oh, and that machine sufferes from a rust issue, and repairing rust is expensive as fuck.

For 300-400$, I could get a FL repaired every 5 years to.

And those don't rust, are more efficent, arguably perform better and are cheaper to buy.



So, which arguments are left in favor of the SQ?

Post# 998424 , Reply# 5   6/26/2018 at 10:50 (2,122 days old) by wft2800 (Leatherhead, Surrey)        

Alliance quality has been seriously overhyped for years. Their reliability in commercial applications tends to be poor. Also, why so many different brands? Everything Huebsch is also available under the SQ name. Then there's IPSO, and Primus, and Unimac... all this badge-engineering ends up looking like BMC cars in the 60s!

Post# 998634 , Reply# 6   6/28/2018 at 00:18 (2,120 days old) by Huebschman (Quebec, CA)        
But then you have to pay 300$ every 5 years

 Read from the top down... doesn't cost $300/5 years to maintain. Would I still have this machine in 2029+ even if I hadn't take take the front panel down and had noting done on it?... yes.

Most washer over 5/6 years old have rust inside... natural aging process (for TL's you EU residents).

What don't you understand about pro-active measures if it is what someone wants to do...I opted for maintenance..., didn't have to.

That's all.
over&out

Post# 998682 , Reply# 7   6/28/2018 at 09:59 (2,120 days old) by henene4 (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany))        

I don't think you'd have the machine in 2029 if you wouldn't take measures against rust.

I'd like to see your proof that most machines 5 years old have rust on structural and functional parts.

And saying you don't have to but you should is an empty statement. Either it is needed or not.
If you have to do it to keep the machine up in working order, my point is correct.
If you don't have to, that would be wasted money.

And all evidence points towards you having to do that periodic maintenance:
- Several reports on belts wearing out within 5 years.
- You had a minor leak which - if unnoticed - could cause massive damage.
- Several reports of early bearing failures (which according to service personal can occur by overrinsing - what?).

And even after all that one point stands: This machine has exactly one thing going for it - it's oldschool.

Durability and quality has been questioned often enough, cleaning ability is - if even - on par with basicly everything else and efficency has never been there.


Post# 999713 , Reply# 8   7/8/2018 at 14:28 (2,110 days old) by Huebschman (Quebec, CA)        
Machine back

 Machine back after 3 weeks (delay due to gasket not readily available). Drain hose changed and foam pads added. Either it is the inside or outer side of the machine, the pump causes it to move every time it expels water causing friction if it touches a surface and eventually a minor tear (like a perforated garden hose) occurs. So watch for any friction of your drain hose during the spin cycle (outside is easy/inside easy also but opening the machine will be required). Very simple thing to prevent.

Gasket worn out was a disappointment. As they unclamped the plastic ring, it was obvious. Those were not rust stains on the outside of the but watermarks. Was I particularly though on my machine... No. Did I did loads that should be gentler... Yes.

Will open it up again soon to see the work done.

All bolts/screws/springs only needed be cleaned.

Total care: $295.00 (and that includes a $80.00 hauled out/in fee and taxes).

Machines with breaks/staps/trans/pulley/hard mount and spring suspension.. have it checked regularly every 5 years.






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