Thread Number: 76235
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Post# 1000622 , Reply# 1   7/18/2018 at 03:19 (2,080 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Yes, the roller padding and cover are as they should be; by nature the padding should be firm (or hard if you like). Same as with an ironing board/table; you want a firm surface (but not too much so)which gives a better finish.
Roller covers for rotary ironers either domestic or commercial generally aren't "plush" at all. Just lengths of heavy cotton duck or muslin. Higher quality covers are available made from linen or Nomex. In any event diameter and length of roller normally determine how times a cover "wraps" around covering the under padding. Padding for rotary ironers once was same as ironing boards; knitted cotton. Looks like this: www.worthpoint.com/wortho... Today both for commercial some domestic there other choices; needle punch polyester felt, stainless steel. etc... Which Miele rotary iron do you have? Cannot tell exactly from linked photo, but *think* that the cover and padding are original Miele. Say this for one because few home sewers have an overlock/serger capable of doing such stitching. Yes, know some do, but not all. If you have one of the newer Miele rotary ironers (900 series) have heard quality of covers and padding changed. Some got quite indignant over paying Miele's prices for a bit of cloth they could have run up themselves. As for your ironing quality issues; it will take some time before getting things down pat. Learning how moist things must be, how to smooth as you go and so forth. Like modern hand irons, these new rotary ironers do not get hot as things of old. Thus things that are too moist must be fed at reduced speed, and or sent through twice or even thrice to get good results. |
Post# 1000676 , Reply# 4   7/18/2018 at 15:49 (2,079 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Ironers. Well the older and larger unit just a few times when first arrived. Pulls too much power (over 3kW) when combined with heating the shoe, so just go with properly dampened laundry.
Most commercial ironers by and large do same; iron dampened laundry dry. Far less energy use than also having to generate steam to dampen the washing. Some industrial ironers do use steam, but for heating the chest. Don't know which padding you have, but perhaps search eBay (widen to international) and look for older replacement covers and padding that are more sturdy. Maybe previous owner replaced with whatever new was on offer from Miele. You want a firm surface because unlike hand ironing main way of exerting required pressure(which keeps washing pressed against shoe) is by roller padding/covering. If things are too soft the washing will give and "sink" into the padding. This is not good because contact with shoe lessens which in turn will give a bad result. To some extent you want a bit of plush because it will protect buttons and embroideries. Older model ironers advised Madame to place terry toweling on roller when doing such things to give a softer surface for such things. In general however have not found ironers good for doing embroidered work regardless. The best of them won't damage, but the overall results are lacking IMHO when compared to handwork. |
Post# 1000677 , Reply# 5   7/18/2018 at 15:55 (2,079 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Aramid ='s Nomex
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aramid... As one stated commercial/industrial ironers have long moved over to Nomex or other synthetic fibers instead of cotton canvas, duck, or muslin. This and or pure linen for roller covers. Nomex does not scorch, can withstand far higher temps than linen or cotton, and does not absorb moisture like natural fibers. This is important for ironers because if the roller cover and or padding become too damp it produces poor finish. For domestic ironers with only the one roll it is vitally important things not get too damp. The above reasons are also why commercial (and some domestic) ironers have long moved over to polyester needle felt padding. In fact most better ironing board padding is often made from this material. |
Post# 1000796 , Reply# 8   7/20/2018 at 01:58 (2,078 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Am not seeing any sort of damage to soleplate that might cause your ironing to stick or whatever.
Those marks were likely caused by previous owners sending through things with closings (buttons, zippers, etc...) face up instead of down where they would have depressed into the padding. This and or the marks were simply caused by something coming into contact with the ironer shoe. Long as you're not feeling any sort of rough edge or scratches, soleplate is fine IMHO. |
Post# 1000797 , Reply# 9   7/20/2018 at 02:15 (2,078 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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One sees their business has changed slightly but also grown. Far more modern Miele ironer offerings.
Have known Mangelwaren of old; large part of their business once was (and still may be) going round Germany and other parts of Europe and purchasing old Heissmangels (house mangels, or ironers if you will). Providing restoration and or refurbishment as necessary, marking the units up, then selling them on. For various reasons Germany was *big* on mangles both heated and or cold. Fast forward to modern times many homes have the things lying about spare that they want gone. Sort of like what you see here in the States with all those old Ironrite, Bendix, and other ironers. |
Post# 1000832 , Reply# 12   7/20/2018 at 15:03 (2,077 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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Post# 1000840 , Reply# 13   7/20/2018 at 16:01 (2,077 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Miele only sells 120v powered ironers in USA now, no more 220v or whatever.
Once you go down the 115v at 15amp route yes, you're limited to around 1400 or so watts. That being said with all ironing equipment temperature of soleplate or whatever surface is more a function of thermostat settings than current. Vintage ironers and irons once sold in USA could (and did) reach very high temperatures on just 115v or 120v and 15amp circuits. My ancient Simplex ironer will get hot enough to scorch linen on contact if you leave it heating long enough. Had a Thor "Glaidiron" that would also burn fabric if you set it too high. Watts are watts; and the amount of power needed to or for heating is same regardless of 120v, 230v-240v, etc.... What does change is higher voltage will get you there faster and allow for quicker recovery. When ironing this is important because soon as soleplate of ironer or iron meets fabric it will cool. More damp fabric is faster things will cool and thermostat will need to kick on to bring things back up to proper temp. This is one reason why many domestic ironers have rollers that move comparatively slowly against industrial versions. Having only the one roller, and often limited heating capacity it takes longer to evaporate the moisture in washing. This and or as mentioned things have to be sent through more than once to achieve proper finish. |
Post# 1000992 , Reply# 15   7/22/2018 at 03:51 (2,076 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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Yes, I know. The Swiss get indeed a 2.2 kw Miele rotary ironer.
Now to return to the problem of the OP that the fuse blows when using the steam function. That B995D was probably sold in Germany, the NL or so. When the steam function is turned on, the machine probably draws a tad more than the Australian system (230V, 15 Amps) can handle. |
Post# 1000993 , Reply# 16   7/22/2018 at 04:09 (2,076 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Post# 1001125 , Reply# 18   7/23/2018 at 07:52 (2,075 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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Post# 1001166 , Reply# 21   7/23/2018 at 15:18 (2,074 days old) by iej (.... )   |   | |
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The T1 dryers have an absolute peak consumption of 1100W T Classic condenser dryer : 2650-2850W (220-230V) The W1 9kg Twindos 2100-2400W (at 220-230V so probably targeting 10amps. It's the same with their dishwashers around 2100W. |
Post# 1001252 , Reply# 23   7/24/2018 at 05:43 (2,074 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Using steam function with either of my Pfaff ironers. Don't have time for all that nonsense with emptying and so forth.
As for steam production, no don't think any ironer is going to put out amounts comparable to some better hand irons. Again they can't really can they? If things are made too moist then they won't dry in one pass with ironer, so would have to be done again. But if steam is still "on" then, well you can see how a vicious circle begins. Fuses can (and often do in my experience) are more forgiving than circuit breakers. That is they will allow things to go a bit longer before blowing. It could be the combined sustained power draw from both steam *and* iron shoe heaters after a period simply are too much for the fuse/wiring. |
Post# 1001376 , Reply# 24   7/25/2018 at 08:01 (2,073 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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James
Having had my house re-wired late late year and adding an extension this year I was somewhat surprised to find that the electricians wired it on radials primarily using 4sq mm cable, they told me that thay had not wired in ring mains for some years. I think three of the circuits are 20amp (bedrooms, living room and vacuum (cleaner) room) the majority are 32amp and feed the kitchen (there are three or maybe four feeds into the kitchen, with each of the laundry rooms having a 32amp supply. There are probably getting on for 20 breakers in the distrubition board). Having central heating there are no fixed electrical heaters hence just 20amp for living room which has TV, hi-fi and occasionally the iron or vacuum cleaner. Incidentally both of the Miele dishwashers in my kitchen (2014 models) are rated at about 2kw which I presumed was to harmonise the models between Europe and Australia Al PS The Eletricians were somewhat surprised at being asked 32 double sockets in the new washer room :) |