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Post# 1000859   7/20/2018 at 17:04 (2,077 days old) by meldew (Georgia)        

I just sold my 2 year old LG front loader and matching dryer. The dryer was fine but the washing machine - UGH. I have a very large family and wash many (3-5+) loads a day. The LG took 2.5 hours a load. The "quick" loads didn't clean well, so I'd end up doing two of those back to back... It was maddening. Everything smelled musty.

So I bought a few years old Speed Queen top loader. I don't love it. It's small. I can't get large comforters or sleeping bags into it. And a lot of our older well-loved cotton knits are coming out with holes in them! The dryer is too hot. I'm just not impressed. I'm thinking of selling it and getting something bigger. Am I crazy? Is this Speed Queen the best there is for quick clean clothes?

I also need to be able to occasionally wash dirty horseback riding clothes/gear and dog beds... it would be nice to have them come out without too much animal hair and smelling clean.

Seriously, if you were me what would you look at? The Maytag commercial top-loader? Try to find a Speed Queen front loader? I just want to wash large loads quickly and have them come out clean and smelling fresh. Like everyone, right?





Post# 1000860 , Reply# 1   7/20/2018 at 17:08 (2,077 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Why didn't you use the TurboWash option when you did loads in the LG.  That's supposed saturate and clean well from what everyone here has reported. 


Post# 1000861 , Reply# 2   7/20/2018 at 17:13 (2,077 days old) by RevvinKevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land)        

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Sounds like you need two washers & dryers rather than one!

 

Musty smell?  What water temp do you wash in?  Also did you leave the door & detergent drawer open when when not in use? 

 

What cycle were you using that took 2.5 hrs to complete?   Or do you mean 2.5 hours to wash & dry?   The only cycle my Kenmore FL washer takes 2.5 hours, is whitest whites (or kids wear), with the hottest temp (w/heater) and steam!   All other cycles are about an hour (to wash).

 

Bob: Not all LG's have the TurboWash feature.


Post# 1000863 , Reply# 3   7/20/2018 at 17:36 (2,077 days old) by vacerator (Macomb, Michigan)        
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Post# 1000865 , Reply# 4   7/20/2018 at 18:16 (2,077 days old) by RP2813 (Sannazay)        

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You won't likely be able to get large comforters or sleeping bags into any traditional type top loading machine on the market today.

 

I don't blame you for wanting to dump the Speed Queens, particularly the primitively designed dryer.  SQ dryers only know one setting:  extra crispy.  The washers (prior to the 2018 models) are highly overrated, even though they receive high praise around these parts for their old school engineering.

 

I don't think the matching dryer for a front-load SQ would be any better.  If you don't mind a mismatched set, a front-load SQ with just about any other brand of dryer might be the best solution if you can afford it.

 

The ideal situation would be a second washer for the dog beds, riding gear and anything else that can't be easily damaged.  If you can swing that, then you could hang onto the SQ washer and use it for those jobs.  That's about all they're good for, and be sure to keep the extra rinse switch on all the time if your machine has one.


Post# 1000867 , Reply# 5   7/20/2018 at 18:36 (2,077 days old) by littlegreeny (Milwaukee, WI)        

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LG makes excellent washers. What cycle were you using? And musty laundry is a sure sign you're using too much detergent. For the LG, you'd need to use no more than 2 tablespoons of he detergent.

Post# 1000878 , Reply# 6   7/20/2018 at 19:13 (2,077 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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I hear the Washboard is making a comeback!

Post# 1000879 , Reply# 7   7/20/2018 at 20:35 (2,077 days old) by Lorainfurniture (Cleveland )        
2 washers

I had the same predicament. If you want clean shirts you need a top loader, preferably an older one, or the Maytag commercial. Keep the LG for bulky items

I currently have a similar set up and it’s working out great for me and the family. Only 2 kids here but we still manage to do a load or 2 a day.


Post# 1000880 , Reply# 8   7/20/2018 at 20:36 (2,077 days old) by Lorainfurniture (Cleveland )        

Oh, and honestly, the speed queen front loader is very reliable, but from a performance standpoint it’s just ok.

Post# 1000906 , Reply# 9   7/21/2018 at 06:20 (2,077 days old) by wft2800 (Leatherhead, Surrey)        

Miele. Go for the W1 if you want tons of features, steam etc, or the Little Giant if you just want commercial durability. The bigger Octoplus machines seem to be hit-and-miss in terms of whether you can find someone willing to sell one to private homes. Pricey, but then they'll last you more-or-less forever.

Alternatively, if you can't afford to spend that kind of money (Miele Little Giant washer and heat-pump condensing dryer runs to about $8k USD), upgrade to a TOL Maytag or LG front-loader... but the dryer will still be vented, it seems, rather than condensing (with or without heat-pump). Considering the USA pioneered the condensing dryer with the Frigidaire Filtrator, I've never understood this...


Post# 1000915 , Reply# 10   7/21/2018 at 10:18 (2,077 days old) by jkbff (Happy Rock, ND)        

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A modern washer worth buying is the Electrolux 627 set. I sell the lux's more than I sell anything else in this store. My customers love them.

laundry.reviewed.com/content/ele...


Post# 1000923 , Reply# 11   7/21/2018 at 12:14 (2,076 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula)        

Well, I'm about to release a fully automatic HATL washer...
Internal heater, 1400 rpm spin speed (variable), decent "old school" water levels, 5 deep rinses and it can wash a king size duvet.

It will reach the market in October.

And in January we plan to release the same washer with a drying cycle (condensing)


Post# 1000935 , Reply# 12   7/21/2018 at 16:23 (2,076 days old) by jerrod6 (Southeastern Pennsylvania)        
To Lorainfurniture

Why do you say that you need a top loader if you want clean shirts?

Post# 1000942 , Reply# 13   7/21/2018 at 17:47 (2,076 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )        
In my opinion...

Yes...BUT, To get a good washer you need to buy a commercial bolt down front loader for a laundromat, then you will have something worth using that will use enough water to actually work!If money was NO object, I would have one of the smaller Milnors, they run forever and they WASH!

Post# 1000944 , Reply# 14   7/21/2018 at 18:36 (2,076 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        
my toughs

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here are my toughs how about a good old fashion direct drive top load washer with matching dryer for smaller loads and for larger loads a front load that way you would also have the option of doing 2 loads at once like for example bedding top load washer comforters in the front load washer

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Post# 1000947 , Reply# 15   7/21/2018 at 19:23 (2,076 days old) by superocd (PNW)        

I just use Bulky/Bedding on all my cycles. It's the cycle that best imitates the way old style front loaders washed before the DOE stepped in and thought that even front loaders used too much water (since the beginning, front loaders were always "high efficency" or at least water efficient before the term was even coined. Even when the water was a third of the way up the door they still used less water than a top load machine of similar capacity, that's just basic science).

My FL washer is a Kenmore built by LG. The water level on Bulky/Bedding fills up to the lip of the inner drum, which is plenty of water almost like the older front loaders yet is still water efficient because it would take two or three of those cycles to equal one cycle of a traditional top loader. I've found that "Normal" dampens the clothes but they are not sloshing through water, which concerns me, so I don't use it. I suppose Normal is fine for a really small load, but not a full one. I never use Express Wash.

I've heard rumors about the DOE clampung down again on water use in front loaders, sometime next year I think. I hope not. I don't see how FLers could be made to use less water. They're fine as-is.


Post# 1000957 , Reply# 16   7/21/2018 at 20:30 (2,076 days old) by Meldew (Georgia)        
Thanks

So y’all have given me something to think about... the LG didn’t have a turbo wash. I used whites/extra hot/extra water and it would “weigh” my load and easily be over two hours. Then I’d put clothes in the dryer and find that they still smelled like teenage boy after heating up... so another round in the washer.

I need to have a matched set because unfortunately I sold the LG dryer. I don’t care for the SQ dryer. And the washer and dryer are located in a hall off the kitchen and very visible so if we’ve got to see them I’d at least like them to look nice.

I would consider two washers but I don’t actually have a laundry room and the closet where they’re located is too small of course. Maybe someday.

So I have someone who wants to buy the SQ set. And I have got to buy something ASAP. Sounds like the Miele and similar are out of my price range.

If I could get an LG that would use enough water I’d do that. Or try to find the Maytag commercial top loader. Does that fill completely with water?

Not sure is sears still in business for Kenmore brand? My options here are Lowe’s, Home Depot, Best Buy, maybe Sears. There’s a small independent appliance shop but they really push Frigidaire so I don’t know if I should trust them. I could order online from Amazon etc.

I need: something that washes quick. Something that uses enough water. Something large capacity would be nice. I’ll see what’s available locally. If the SQ sells this weekend I’ll be in a rush.


Post# 1000960 , Reply# 17   7/21/2018 at 21:05 (2,076 days old) by ea56 (Cotati, Calif.)        

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I had an LG FL a few years ago, that didn’t have Turbo Wash, and that was my mistake for not realizing it would make so much differnce. It just didn’t use enough water, even with the Water Plus option. And it took forever to complete a load because it was so sensitive about going into a spin.

So, in 12-16, I bought a Maytag MVWC415EW at Lowes, and the matching Maytag Electric dryer. I have been very pleased with both. The each load finishes on 50-60 mins, depending on soil level and whether a presoak is selected, which adds about 10 mins. It has never become unbalanced, or failed to go into a spin right when its supposed to. I wash most loads with hot water, and if I use the Turbo Wash cycle the hot water isn’t dumbed down, its tap hot. The Power Wash, Deep Water Wash and Bulky cycles all fill to cover the load, whatever amount is needed. I use Power and Deep cycles the most. There is quite enough water used to really get the clothes clean, while not being wasteful. And it does a fill rinse, not just a spray rinse on these cycles, so a 2nd rinse has never been necessary. This model is no longer sold, but the closest replacement is the MVWC416EW, also at Lowes.

I know many here may disagree with me, but I have been very happy with this Maytag Cennenial set. And from the description of how the Maytag Commercial machine works, it sounds very similar to mine.

Since 1972, I’ve owned 23 different washing machines of all types. There are 2 automatics that are my favorite, this current Maytag and the 87’ Westinghouse FL that I owned and used for 7 trouble free years. The other 2 favorites were a used Maytag Wringer, my first washer and a Maytag A50 Twin Tub.

I think you would be happy with the Maytag Commercial, or the model similar to mine at Lowes.

And BTW, I can wash kingsize bedspreads, comforters, mattress pads and blankets, with no problem. They saturate completly during the fill, so there are no floating bubbled up areas, they stay fully submerged, and spin with out going out of balance. But I do need to reareange these larger items once or twice during drying, but thats not unusual for most dryers with these kind of loads.

HTH
Eddie





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Post# 1000967 , Reply# 18   7/21/2018 at 22:16 (2,076 days old) by superocd (PNW)        

My Kenmore FL gets a load done around an hour on Bulky/Bedding on "Heavy" soil level, about 50 minutes if you just leave the soil level at its default, "Normal" (soil levels just modify the wash time and AFAIK has nothing to do with water levels). The Bulky cycle is the cycle that uses more water and, ironically, is the cycle that takes the least amount of time out of all the others (excluding Quick Wash). The Bulky/Bedding cycle on a Kenmore/LG front loader is in line with the amount of time that other modern machines would take on a wash cycle.

AFAIK Bulky/Bedding does not spend time weighing the load. It starts purging the detergent, then goes on to fill, then goes into wash. The only caveat is that the firmware on the machine will not let you use max spin speed on Bulky/Bedding, however, I can still dry a load of cotton towels in 35-40 minutes no problem.

On the normal cycle, it can take about 1.5 hours or more. Between the lengthened wash time and the fact that it does not add enough water for the clothes to tumble through as it should in a front loading machine, I just avoid using it.

I do wish there was a straightforward filling method, since it spends a few minutes from purging the detergent to the end of the fill, but maybe there's a purpose for the way it does it. One other thing that annoys me is the fact that it goes on-off-on-off with the water so much during the purge. That made me run out to get hammer arresters in short order.


Post# 1000980 , Reply# 19   7/22/2018 at 00:19 (2,076 days old) by MattL (Flushing, MI)        

Being 9 years into using a front loader I can say suing the bulky cycle may not be the best option.  Yes, it adds more water, but if you look at the wash action unless the tub is filled to the max with clothes it's poor at best.  the clothes swish around in a large puddle of eater.  Over the years I've played with water levels and watched wash action, and less is more.  Lifting and dropping the clothes is a much better wash action than swishing.  To accomplish that you need a moderate amount of water. 

 

I've used all 3 styles of machines, I will never let a wash plate machine into my home, they are a joke IMO, agitators are OK, but use way too much water to accomplish what FL's can easily do with considerably less.  If I were  buying today it'd be an LG with turbo wash, no question.


Post# 1000985 , Reply# 20   7/22/2018 at 01:37 (2,076 days old) by Meldew (Georgia)        

Thank you SO MUCH. I think I’ll go down the FL path again. Expensive lessons! Super helpful hearing what cycles you prefer etc.

Looks like the top loading Maytag Commercial is not immediately available in my area (quickly, anyway) so that may simplify things as well.

I will try to update when I do sell the SQ and purchase replacements.


Post# 1000988 , Reply# 21   7/22/2018 at 02:13 (2,076 days old) by Meldew (Georgia)        

Also wanted to add that I’ll look at the Electrolux and Miele brands. And I didn’t realize the Maytag centennial mentioned above is a top loader. I’ll look at it too.

Post# 1000989 , Reply# 22   7/22/2018 at 03:30 (2,076 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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I agree with Matt. A front loader doesn't need a lot of water for a good cleaning, less is indeed more. The wash action of a front loader imitates the old fashioned of beating clothes on a rock. Remember that that rock was above the water level, not in the water. Beating clothes on a rock below the water level wouldn't be of much help.

Post# 1000999 , Reply# 23   7/22/2018 at 05:28 (2,076 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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I washed several sets of sheer curtain panels in the (2006) Duet at one of RJ's rental properties for clean-up between tenants.  Used the Delicate cycle on the first go.  Too much water to the point they items floated and never rolled over.  There was undissolved detergent powder in them when done.  Ran a 2nd time on Normal, MUCH better.


Post# 1001003 , Reply# 24   7/22/2018 at 06:49 (2,076 days old) by Rolls_rapide (.)        
@ Meldew:

Just curious... which are detergent are using, and which format (liquid, pods, or powder)?

And do you use fabric conditioner?

Us lot over here (UK and Europe), have had a fair experience with various types of machine over the decades, and the frontloader works best.

I also declare and I've said this umpteen times before, that powders clean most effectively.

Liquids are far less effective, and in some cases are only suitable for lightly soiled loads. Liquids can allow laundry - and the machine - to develop a decidedly musty smell.

Fabric conditioner adds to this musty problem. As does 'cold water quick-washes).



Post# 1001006 , Reply# 25   7/22/2018 at 07:47 (2,076 days old) by Meldew (Georgia)        

Well maybe the detergent isn’t helping. It’s hard to find powder here. I’ve been using liquid tide or liquid Purex. Sometimes fabric softener or scent booster. I’m sure I use too much. Are there any tricks to get sweat odor out? With the front loader it usually defaulted to cold/cold but I’d bump to warm or hot when I could. I guess I felt like things needed a good soak but there wasn’t a way to do that in the LG. So what’s the best detergent? I can get tide powder here and maybe a few others.

Post# 1001007 , Reply# 26   7/22/2018 at 08:01 (2,076 days old) by wft2800 (Leatherhead, Surrey)        

I've only recently begun using powder for really mucky stuff after years of only using liquid detergents, and while the powders with oxygen bleach are useful for dealing with heavily-stained whites, they're not so good for colours (dyes run more easily) and the clothes don't smell as nice afterwards...

So, brands to consider: Electrolux, Fisher & Paykel, Whirlpool/Maytag (they're the same company now), LG, Miele, Bosch/AEG if you can find them... maybe Samsung? From what I've heard, GE quality these days is awful. Kenmore is a mixed bag as they're no longer Whirlpool-made, some are LG, some are Electrolux IIRC?


Post# 1001014 , Reply# 27   7/22/2018 at 09:30 (2,076 days old) by Rolls_rapide (.)        

Procter & Gamble usually makes decent-performing powder detergents: Tide, Ariel.

I am of the opposite opinion regarding smell; I think powders make the laundry smell fresher.

Also, some dyes in some cotton fabrics just seem to have an odd smell. I once had a pale mottled green t-shirt classed as 'mildew' colour; possibly 'Fruit of the Loom' brand. It always, always had a strange smell - even from new - and it was washed hundreds of times. It was the combination of dyes used.

However, P&G has some weirdness going on with regarding its fragrances. I think they're far too heavy-handed with their 'Febreze' technologies.

To get around the strong perfume scent though, you could always dose on the frugal side... Launderess made mention of this quite recently, and it seems to work for her.

So test and try, and see what works for you.


Post# 1001015 , Reply# 28   7/22/2018 at 10:01 (2,076 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        
With the front loader it usually defaulted to cold/cold

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I think this might be the problem. Washing in cold water with liquid detergents may leave body fats behind in clothes. Anything that you wear on your body should at least be washed in warm water if not in hot in order to dissolve the dirt and get things really clean. Ignore labels that say you have to wash in cold water. Your body is warm, so the clothes can handle warm water too.

Post# 1001022 , Reply# 29   7/22/2018 at 11:45 (2,075 days old) by Meldew (Georgia)        

So someone is coming to hopefully buy the SQ combo today... if they do will shop in earnest. Watched some YouTube videos on front loaders in action (Lorraine?). Made the SQ front loader look great. I like the simple approach. Also there’s a whirlpool or Maytag “commercial “ front loader that looks very basic.

Somehow the simpler ones appeal to me more than the bells and whistles of the LG or Electrolux.

So I’ll wash on warm with powder.... I forgot about Persil. That smelled so clean. But it’s liquid or pods.

Fingers crossed that the current ones sell!


Post# 1001025 , Reply# 30   7/22/2018 at 12:30 (2,075 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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Meldew:  So I’ll wash on warm with powder....
Keep in mind that new machines nowadays (with a few exceptions) restrict the water temperatures for energy-saving purposes by mixing in cold.  Warm on those machines may be between 75°F and 80°F ... hardly "warm" as such.

The designated Normal cycle is typically the most-restricted on temperature since it's the cycle used to gauge the EnergyStar rating.  Hot on Normal may be between 90°F to 105°F, which is closer to what Warm should be.

More aggressive cycles such as Heavy Duty, Allergy, and Sanitary operate at higher temperatures.

You have to experiment with the cycles and settings on whatever new machine you choose to get a handle on the temperatures is provides.


Post# 1001027 , Reply# 31   7/22/2018 at 12:34 (2,075 days old) by lakewebsterkid (Dayton, Ohio)        
Musty

Meldew, keep the door or lid open between cycles. This will reduce any stagnant air and moisture. To remove the nasty BO smell, try using ammonia in every wash as long as you ARE NOT using bleach. 1/2 a cup for front load and 1 cup for a top load should be fine. This will remove any BO and excess residues in clothes. Keep using the Tide liquid, but makes sure you are using the HE Turbo version in front loading machines!

Post# 1001029 , Reply# 32   7/22/2018 at 12:36 (2,075 days old) by lakewebsterkid (Dayton, Ohio)        
Temperatures

Dadoes is 100% correct. Follow that advice as well.

Post# 1001036 , Reply# 33   7/22/2018 at 14:05 (2,075 days old) by meldew (Georgia)        

OK I will... I had left the door cracked on the LG almost always. I almost never did the cleaning cycle though. I've not heard about ammonia - it might be just what I need to cut through the B.O. Well the SQ is sold so I am needing to buy very soon. The new owners were very knowledgeable about SQ and I think they'll be happy with it!

Post# 1001042 , Reply# 34   7/22/2018 at 15:17 (2,075 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Melissa, I've been reading through your posts again.  You felt like things always needed a good soak.  I would imagine your LG model has at least a prewash option.  Did you ever use that in conjunction with whatever wash cycle you were going to select?  Front loaders excel when they have a onboard heater (supplements hot water supply and raises wash temperatures and in LG's case, if it has steam, it has an onboard heater).  I won't have a front loader unless it has a heater. 

 

I throw kitchen hand towels, cleaning cloths, and thick cotton cloth napkins that have all sorts of food soils, residue on them and they sit for up to a month before I have enough to wash a load of them.  I use tide with bleach alternative and biz powder with sanitize cycle and steam option.  Everything always comes out thoroughly clean and fresh. 


Post# 1001048 , Reply# 35   7/22/2018 at 15:58 (2,075 days old) by meldew (Georgia)        

yes the LG did have the allergen cycle so it had a heater... I didn't use that cycle ever though as it took so long. I am looking at LG again with the turbo wash option for speed. I could try using Biz as well.

I think I'll get either the Maytag or LG front loader. I like the Maytag commercial top loader but nobody here has it so I'd have to ship from one of the national sellers, and I'm also afraid it will be too small capacity. I like the speed queen front loader but again small capacity.

The Electrolux worries me as I think they're made by Frigidaire? Frigidaire has been nightmarish for me in the past.


Post# 1001051 , Reply# 36   7/22/2018 at 16:33 (2,075 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Mylessa, there are times using a front loader it's best to take advantage of the longer cycles to tackle some of the really obnoxious soils and crud your laundry generates.  Before I got my front loader, I had top loaders and there were times I'd have to soak things.  And you mentioned above you felt like things needed a good soak.  With my previous experience of of soaking for 1/2 an hour to an hour and then draining, filling with hot water, washing on longest wash time (14 minutes) and an extra rinse because of all the detergent and such, my loads would end up taking 1.5 to 2 hours.  And as you have discovered, it ended up being very hard on fabrics.   Well in  the end, it seems I'm using about the same amount of time doing things with the long soak and long top load wash cycle (55-60 minutes for 3 full fills and max wash time and extra rinse) vs. extra hot water on my front loader.  I have a Whirlpool Duet and my whites cycle max soil and extra rinse, take about one hour and 45 minutes, not too much longer than the old top loader with soak and full maxed wash cycle.  With the type of soil it sounds like you deal with, it may be best to slow things down at times.  Try using delay wash to start a longer cycle during the night.  I'll be honest, I make no bones about how much I despise top loaders.  I never felt my clothes were as clean (and also beat up and don't last as long) as I have with my front loader. And I've been doing laundry in earnest since 1964.  Just like old-fashioned slow-cooked meal, sometimes you cannot rush outstanding laundry results.  Too bad you cannot have two sets of washer with a dryer stacked on top in your laundry closet. 


Post# 1001079 , Reply# 37   7/22/2018 at 20:55 (2,075 days old) by meldew (Georgia)        

I know you're right! I was just talking to my husband about how a much larger front loader washing more clothes at once would almost equal 2-3 small top loader batches time-wise.

I am going to measure the laundry closet. Maybe I would be able to stack. If I could also use splitters/couplers on the drain and hot/cold spigots....


Post# 1001094 , Reply# 38   7/22/2018 at 22:56 (2,075 days old) by RP2813 (Sannazay)        

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Much as I doubted it would, my Frigidaire Affinity front loader served me without any serious mechanical issues (I had to replace the pump once, which was DIY) for almost ten years.  Mine was made by Electrolux, and it was very good at cleaning on the "Normal" cycle even with dumbed down hot water.  If you take care of them and use them properly, FL machines will provide more longevity than what you read in the negative reviews.

 

I agree with Bob that for getting clothes clean, FL machines are so far superior to TL that they're in a league of their own.  I do have a vintage Maytag TL machine, but it's only used for really funky disgusting jobs (I'm a caregiver for someone with incontinence issues) that I'd rather not taint my daily driver FL machine (older Maytag Neptune -- no heater) with.


Post# 1001097 , Reply# 39   7/22/2018 at 23:28 (2,075 days old) by askolover (South of Nash Vegas, TN)        

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Also something to consider....I sometimes pour a little Lysol in with my colored uniforms that I don't like to use extra hot water on.  But that's why I like Miele and Asko...I can choose how hot the water will be all the way from ice cold up to almost boiling.  Maybe some of that liquid laundry sanitizer would help with the BO problems.  Also remember, with those behemoth FL machines...their efficiency drops if they are not ran at capacity.  I mean, utilize their spaciousness.  Fuller loads balance better...or at least that's been my experience.


Post# 1001120 , Reply# 40   7/23/2018 at 06:46 (2,075 days old) by Meldew (Georgia)        

Thanks for the heads up on Electrolux... I will consider the 627! Tho I don’t know how long the cycles are...

Also this confirms what I thought about cycle load... I was looking at the giant (5.8?) LG but then that’s a ton of clothes!


Post# 1001145 , Reply# 41   7/23/2018 at 12:06 (2,074 days old) by jkbff (Happy Rock, ND)        

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What I love, and what mom loves (I bought her the 617 set) is the 527/627 have a recirculating spray that always saturate the clothes/articles and keep them saturated. The 627 has smartboost which premixes the soap (powder, liquid or pods now) and sprays the clothes like a pre-treat then starts to heat the water and break the stains down.

I can run a king size down comforter in my machine and it is thoroughly washed.

I can wash my pillows and they are always wet in the middle.

Most of the cycles are pretty quick. If change the soil level to a higher level and add an extra rinse I get to about an hour and 10 minutes, but most of my cycles run under 35 minutes.


Post# 1001189 , Reply# 42   7/23/2018 at 16:32 (2,074 days old) by RevvinKevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land)        
Adding to what Askolover said......

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As you have a lot of laundry and the washer took a long time per load, is there any chance you tried to get as much as possible in each load?   My apologies if you're already aware of this, but many FL washers can hold huge loads (5.8 cu ft?!?) and they can be filled right to the top of the drum, as long as it fits loosely, not stuffed or packed in.  Everything needs room to tumble and once it's all completely saturated with water.  When wet the clothes should be between 1/2 way and 2/3 (at most) up the door glass during the pause between rotation.

 

Again, my apologies if you already know this.

Best of luck with the new machines!

Kevin


Post# 1001203 , Reply# 43   7/23/2018 at 20:23 (2,074 days old) by good-shepherd (New Jersey)        
I am going to measure the laundry closet.

Just knock out a wall or two if you need to make room for the washer...

Post# 1001207 , Reply# 44   7/23/2018 at 20:31 (2,074 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)        
I use Lemon

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ammonia with powdered detergent for all loads that are not white. For whites, I use chlorine bleach. I have been eyeing the LG turbo wash, not ONLY because of turbo wash but because of the LONG spray rinses. To me, low water washing where clothes are just saturated is best, but you need deeper water for rinsing. If I'm getting the exact same amount of water for rising as I do for washing, I would not be happy. Luckily, I think the LG washers and possibly even the duets and maytags use more water for rinsing than they do for washing, though I'm not 100% sure of this. My Duet FL keeps kicking along and I absolutely have loved it all of these years. My clothes are super clean and it doesn't use a huge amount of water, but it uses more than today's washers since it's on its 14th year.

Post# 1001219 , Reply# 45   7/23/2018 at 22:42 (2,074 days old) by Meldew (Georgia)        

Y’all have given me too much to think about! Lol at knocking out a wall... wish I could. I will definitely be trying the ammonia trick. I already use bleach on whites occasionally and it does help.

Filling the washers - no I’ve always run them about 1/3 to 1/2 full on the FL and probably 2/3-3/4 on the TL... a teenage son once overfilled a Cabrio with blue jeans and broke the drum somehow so I’ve been cautious. And I was afraid if I put too much in the LG it wouldn’t all get wet. But I’m slowly understanding the way a FL works and it requires clothes!

So we are without washer and dryer and I went to four stores today... the LG FL seemed flimsy. I didn’t love the other FL except the Maytag... I did like all the top loaders with agitators! The independent store was pushing to sell me another Speed Queen set. I liked the Maytag Commercial TL they had too.

So I came home and looked for SQ front loaders online. There are some but they’re $1500-2000 and they’re small. And I hated the SQ dryer I had.

I’m going to try to decide tomorrow and I guess I’ll just get the LG again... or the Electrolux. I wish they weren’t so plastic. I really like simple.


Post# 1001226 , Reply# 46   7/23/2018 at 23:45 (2,074 days old) by ea56 (Cotati, Calif.)        
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I know I’m bucking the trend here, but if you really like simple, go with the Maytag Commercial TL, I don’t think you’ll be disappointed. I replaced my LG FL with a Maytag TL, although not the Commerical model, it wasn’t available at the time. I love it. The LG I had didn’t have the Turbo Wash and it just didn’t use enough water,and the cycle times were way too long for me. Sometimes waiting for it to decide to spin was like watching paint dry.

If you go with the Maytag you’ll feel right at home with it from day one, and it will meet all your needs. Bottom line, you want to get a machine that you are going to like and be happy with. Make a list of the things that are important to you and then check those things off next to the machines you are considering, then get the one that ticks the most boxes.

Thats my two cents worth.

Eddie




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Post# 1001236 , Reply# 47   7/24/2018 at 01:38 (2,074 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)        
Even though I'm a FL person

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I have to agree that the Maytag TL would be the best choice if you're looking for an OLD FASHIONED TL washer. For me though, after having a FL washer all these years it would be so hard for me to go back. I also will say I disagree with packing FL washers full. Usually, 3/4 full dry clothes is perfect so they can tumble around best. When my Duet dies, I'm torn between the Maytag Maxima or the LG with turbowash. But everyone's different. A TL might be just the thing for you and if I had to get a TL, it would definitely be the MAYTAG from what I've seen and heard about them.

Post# 1001237 , Reply# 48   7/24/2018 at 02:02 (2,074 days old) by askolover (South of Nash Vegas, TN)        

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I've always filled my FL'ers up to a point where I can just fit my open hand on top of the dry clothes.  When they're wet they are perfectly ready to tumble and always come out clean.  It's always irked me to walk into the laundromat to wash rugs or such and see all those FL washers barely even half full.  People wasting their money.


Post# 1001307 , Reply# 49   7/24/2018 at 16:01 (2,073 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)        
Over the years

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I've watched the tumble action of my duet and different load sizes. To me, watching the tumbling action of a load like you describe vs a little bit of a smaller load (which is still a large load, more than a TL can handle)....to me, there's a cut-off point. The clothes will still get clean with a load like you describe, but I think they get a little cleaner with a starting dry load about 75% full instead of 90% full. They just lift and drop better once the load is fully saturated. Not only that, but the dryer can handle a 75% full load better than a 90% full load. Of course, this is just my opinion after having used my FL'r for years now.

AND THEN........you can obviously have loads that are way too small as well.


Post# 1001309 , Reply# 50   7/24/2018 at 17:01 (2,073 days old) by good-shepherd (New Jersey)        
I’m going to try to decide tomorrow

Don't most stores have return or exchange policies if you're not happy with the machine?

If so, that could be a way to "test drive" a washer or two before you commit to one or another.


Post# 1001320 , Reply# 51   7/24/2018 at 18:29 (2,073 days old) by meldew (Georgia)        
so I'm thinking about the 5.2 and 5.8 LG... should I?

I went from almost deciding on the Maytag Commercial TL, to almost ordering a SQ FL, to seriously considering the gigantic LG front loaders... If they just didn't look so crazy.

So I didn't really explain how many kids will be washing clothing besides my husband and myself.... right now there are 7. So 9 of us total. Though one is away at college during much of the school year. And I have a lot of big dogs. I "mid-woof" for a breeder so I'm washing birth-soiled blankets and towels and then puppy-soiled items a couple times a year... probably four months total of puppy laundry. Then a couple of us ride horses a few times a week... sweaty, dirty, hairy. Horsehair is prickly and doesn't come out of clothing easily.

If any of you are still reading this far, would I be crazy to get a HUGE washer?

Because the few days I have been without a washer and dryer this week, I find myself walking to the washer a half dozen times a day... it's automatic for me to be starting loads, transferring loads, etc. all day long. I can wash 3-6 loads a day. If I miss a few days I can do 10 loads in a day to catch up.

Part of my wants to just buy the cheap Amana washer and dryer and spend very little... but would I regret it? Or I could get the hugest available. So that's why I need quicker cycles. But if I have an enormous washer and dryer I could cut the number of loads by 1/3 maybe.


Post# 1001324 , Reply# 52   7/24/2018 at 18:50 (2,073 days old) by stricklybojack (South Hams Devon UK)        

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You should have a true, bolt down, 30 pound plus, commercial Front Load Washer. Seriously.
Also start buying your detergent and other supplies in bulk. There are various people here who know how that’s done.


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Post# 1001330 , Reply# 53   7/24/2018 at 20:17 (2,073 days old) by Meldew (Georgia)        

And how much are those? I don’t even want to know! But yes I’m on my 5th dishwasher in 11 years... the repairman told me I put triple the wear on any appliance.

Post# 1001358 , Reply# 54   7/25/2018 at 01:15 (2,073 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)        
It sounds like

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you have a LOT of dirty laundry - I'm not going to lie. I've fantasized about having one of those bolt down washers in my house, but really?
Anyway, I'm not sure about the store letting you try them out. I'm sure they have return policy's that you can at least return it within a certain time frame. I've read where people have had LG's for years with no trouble... but you just never know. Anway, if you end up getting the LG, just make sure you just never or rarely use cold water, use good detergent, very little fab softener......and leave those doors and the detergent cup open all the time when not in use. Use bleach in whites, don't overload the washer, and I think you'll be fine. I can tell you this, when/if my Duet ever dies, if Whirlpool or Maytag has not introduced new front load models with a recirculation pump like LG has, (which I'm hoping they do), I'm likely going with an LG FL washer with turbo wash and just hope for the best.


Post# 1001364 , Reply# 55   7/25/2018 at 05:00 (2,073 days old) by Meldew (Georgia)        

I just reread this whole thread and I want to say THANK YOU again! I wish I’d had this information 25 years ago. Reading how these machines work has been eye opening. I’d been using more and more detergent trying to get stuff clean. Up to a cup per wash. And usually a cup of liquid fabric softener... and my kids would add those scent beads... and the SQ had a warm wash that was chilly and the hot wash was barely hot (probably more a function of my hot water heater settings and performance - that’s a topic for another day!). And I bought cheaper and cheaper detergents because I was using so much of them.

I also rarely washed with hot in the LG as it seemed to add more time. Essentially I did repeated express washes with too much detergent... plus the additives... no wonder everything smelled lol.

I think the true commercial washers are out of our price range. I’ll research it just to be sure. Much as I hate plastic and led lights I’m going to get a very large FL with a “recirculating” type of spray like the turbo wash or similar. If I’m reading right only Electrolux and LG have that? Not Maytag/Whirlpool? Miele, Bosch, SQ are just too small.

And I remember the whirlpool dryers I had back in the day that someone wrote about, here or on another thread! I loved those! If I had a true laundry room I’d have one for sure but these are essentially in view from half my house (open floor plan) and matching would make me happy.

So excited. But the big box retailers here seem to be out of half of every washer/dryer set I try to put in my online cart. I feel I’ll need their “free” installation. If I order from a national online store don’t they just drop the box in the driveway? Plus weeks for delivery?

I’m traveling this week and I really hope I can get something arranged to install this weekend. One of my teens is working in the kitchen of a Japanese restaurant for a summer job and his work uniform is getting.... well, odiferous lol!


Post# 1001367 , Reply# 56   7/25/2018 at 06:08 (2,073 days old) by tolivac (greenville nc)        

Do those commercial bolt down washers require 3 ph power?If so not good for the average home.The installation would be impossible or just too expensive for the conversion equipment and the wiring.

Post# 1001378 , Reply# 57   7/25/2018 at 08:13 (2,073 days old) by Rolls_rapide (.)        
CAUTION!

DO NOT mix ammonia and bleach!

It may release chloramine gas, which can lead to a chemical induced pneumonia.


From the Washington State Dept. of Health:


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Post# 1001394 , Reply# 58   7/25/2018 at 11:16 (2,072 days old) by RevvinKevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land)        

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Melissa, 

 

With as much laundry as you do, I still suggest you seriously consider installing TWO front load washer & dryers, stacked in your laundry space, if at all possible.  Yes it will cost more initially, but it will also pay off BIG TIME because it will cut the time you spend doing laundry IN HALF and will give you "that much more" free time every week!   Personally I can do 4 loads at once, but I don't have nearly the volume of laundry you do! 

 

You can buy "Y" connectors for the water connections and you SHOULD be able to fit two drain hoses into the drain without much trouble. 

 

Re: detergent amounts.  With the more concentrated detergents and lower water usage in FL washers, they require less of it.  In my 4.0 cu.ft Kenmore FL, I use a small scoop (about 2 tablespoons) of the powered detergent (Sears or Persil) I'm currently using, per load. 

 

As mentioned in other replies, the "normal" cycle uses the least water for the main wash.  My Kenmore has an "express wash" cycle which has become my default cycle, I always choose heavy soil with an extra rinse.  It uses a bit more water in the main wash and with the options above, works out to 55 minutes for a normal load.

 

Another thing to consider is the location of your water heater in relation to your washer.  As front loaders use little water, you could be washing in cold or cool water even if you select hot, IF your water heater is on the other side the house.  I run the water closest to the washer to get it hot before I start it.

 

My 3 cents...

Kevin


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Post# 1001398 , Reply# 59   7/25/2018 at 12:03 (2,072 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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Slightly OT -- be aware that those Y-adapters need to be watched for deterioration.  They're not as robust as they may seem, even if metal/brass.  I use a four-tap brass adapter with three Y-adapters attached to connect three machines (with one spare tap).  The four-tap piece corroded and broke off without much force when I tried unscrewing it after approx 6 years.  It had a non-brass sleeve or some such piece in the connection/swivel.


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Post# 1001403 , Reply# 60   7/25/2018 at 13:23 (2,072 days old) by IowaBear (Cedar Rapids, IA)        
Hard to Imagine 1 Person Washing for 9 People Plus Dogs

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and ever keeping up without having multiple machines.

 

In the 1970s we had a small GE Filter-Flo washer.  It was not possible to wash large bedding or blankets in it effectively.

 

So once a month (or whenever she felt it was needed) my mother would send my father to the Laundromat on Saturday morning with the large items and any extra laundry that was piling up.  In the summer we brought them home wet and hung them on the line instead of machine drying them.

 

The other thing my mother did was delegate laundry we were old enough to do our own.  This probably lead to less full loads and more energy use, but it was certainly easier for her than trying to keep up with all of it.  (and this was only for a family of five.)


Post# 1001405 , Reply# 61   7/25/2018 at 13:41 (2,072 days old) by ea56 (Cotati, Calif.)        

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In the mid 60’s, for about two years, my step fathers family lived with us, making a total of 10 people. We also had FIVE Doberman’s! All the laundry was done in my Mom’s 62 MOL Whirlpool TL, and the dryer was also a MOL Whirlpool purchased in 62’.

Now, granted, there was laundry being washed every day of the week, but those Whirlpool’s managed all that laundry just fine!

Back then, most people I knew of weren’t in the habit of washing dog bedding on any regular basis, and our dogs slept on old blankets and bedspreads that fit into the Whirlpool.

Doing the laundry was the easy part. Living with 10 people in a 3 bed/2 bath house was the real challenge. His family hogged the bathrooms, so in order to get a shower you would have to really be on your toes to snag the bathroom before they did.

This was one of the blackest periods of my life, they were awful people to live with, they complained about everything, but neither one of his parents worked or contributed to the household income.

Sorry to digress, but just trying to make the point that it is possible to do the laundry for 9 or 10 people in a TL.

Eddie


Post# 1001406 , Reply# 62   7/25/2018 at 13:42 (2,072 days old) by Meldew (Georgia)        

Ok! I’m out of town until Friday BUT I will measure and price two sets, stacked... how do I work two dryer hoses? I guess that’s impossible because I’d need two electrical outlets for the dryer...

I also found this on CL. Wdyt? They are $175 for the set. The owner inherited them and says they run but they don’t know the age.


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Post# 1001407 , Reply# 63   7/25/2018 at 13:46 (2,072 days old) by Meldew (Georgia)        

It’s good to hear other people can do it on one washer... I’ve done it up to now. But it is constant. I’m always searching for ways to make life easier.

Post# 1001408 , Reply# 64   7/25/2018 at 13:57 (2,072 days old) by ea56 (Cotati, Calif.)        
Re:Reply # 62

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Melissa from what I can see that Whirlpool set looks to be in good shape. For $175.00 you can get them right away and be doing laundry tomorrow. This will give you time to really be sure just what you want in a permanent set, if you don’t like the used Whirlpools. And if you have storage space somewhere like a basement or garage, if you do purchase another permanent set, you can keep the used set on reserve, if you don’t decide to sell them.

It will also give you a chance to decide if you really want to go the TL or FL route in the end. I would imagine that this washer will do a load in about 45 mins, or less. You can get 3 or 4 loads done in a day and keep up with your large families needs.

Just my two cents worth.
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Post# 1001409 , Reply# 65   7/25/2018 at 14:21 (2,072 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula)        

You can "survive" with two washers and one dryer.

If you can have two dryers, ok, that's even better. But having two washers and one dryer is also way better than only one washer and one dryer.

Other thing I would consider, if you evnetually have those items that should be washed separately is getting one of those "sidekick" washers.

It is a mini washing machine that is as big as a pedestal. They look like toys, but they actually work great and the capacity is really impressive for the size.

In a few months, my company will release the "Mojave" dryer. It is a mini portable tumble dryer that has an impressive capacity You can split the LG load in two to dry in it. it doesn't require special outlets and it runs on 110v.


Post# 1001414 , Reply# 66   7/25/2018 at 15:42 (2,072 days old) by jkbff (Happy Rock, ND)        

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I am going to change my recommendation.

When ever I have had houses that are doing that much laundry, you need to go with the speed queen front loaders.

They stopped producing them for a minute to fill a contract but they are producing them again.

Make sure you buy from a platinum dealer that is a servicer as well.

They can handle the loads you'd be running through them and have 5 years warranty included.

They are well built machines that are reparable. They are not fancy in any way but you can customize the cycles as much as you want, turn off the High Efficiency requirements and make the machine use 2" more water through programming.

They are rock solid and will perform for many years. And don't let that tub fool you, it will still wash a king sized comforter.

I have a set that I bought used that came from a laundromat, I replaced the tub bearings on the washer and gave them to a friend that has 6 kids. The motor needs new bearings, was going to replace them but she said just to wait till they die and she'll just buy a new set from me. Well.. Two years and still going strong. I can't get the damn things to die. She runs just under 14 full loads of laundry every 4 days. They live on a farm with 87 chickens, a bunch of ducks, a llama, 8 horses and a bunch of other things that run around tearing stuff up and crap everywhere. They handle her stuff just fine.


Post# 1001416 , Reply# 67   7/25/2018 at 15:59 (2,072 days old) by briant73 (Pennsylvania)        

I have read a few posts here saying SQ is making consumer FL again but every time I check the SQ site and do a google search I see no mention of this.

Does anyone have an official announcement or something more than a dealer said told a customer this?



Post# 1001429 , Reply# 68   7/25/2018 at 17:27 (2,072 days old) by neptunebob (Pittsburgh, PA)        
My solution..

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I would buy the Speed Queen stack front loader and then a Whirlpool or Kenmore dryer you like. Also, maybe one of the dryers could be gas so as not to have to run another electric line. Usually dryers take longer so having 2 can prevent a laundry back up.

Post# 1001438 , Reply# 69   7/25/2018 at 19:12 (2,072 days old) by jkbff (Happy Rock, ND)        

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Briant73,

Well.. I sell them at the dealership I work at if that helps?


Post# 1001439 , Reply# 70   7/25/2018 at 19:12 (2,072 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Melissa, it sounds like you live in a somewhat rural scenario?  If so, I'm assuming a septic tank rather than  sewer drainage.  If septic, with the volume of laundry done daily, that is a strain on your septic tank.  A front loader might be best. 


Post# 1001448 , Reply# 71   7/25/2018 at 21:39 (2,072 days old) by meldew (Georgia)        
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"I would buy the Speed Queen stack front loader and then a Whirlpool or Kenmore dryer you like. Also, maybe one of the dryers could be gas so as not to have to run another electric line. Usually dryers take longer so having 2 can prevent a laundry back up."

Can you explain? Is the stack one piece or two I put together? Two washers or a washer and dryer? and there is a dealer in town that has the new SQ top loaders. There weren't any front loaders so I would ask them to order I guess? I'll ask about the platinum dealer if I go that route but I'm pretty sure they service what they sell.

unfortunately we don't have a gas line running to our house however we aren't on septic; we're one of the neighborhoods in our area that has water and sewer! Semi-rural I guess.

I thought about a condensing dryer in the garage but we are short on amperage there too... would need an electrician either way so if we got one to come out we might as well get the second 220v line run to the laundry closet. But getting an electrician is about impossible for something that small. I would consider a portable or the sidekick I guess.


Post# 1001452 , Reply# 72   7/25/2018 at 22:11 (2,072 days old) by whirlykenmore78 (Prior Lake MN (GMT-0500 CDT.))        
Neptunebob hit the nail on the head:

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That would be an Ideal set-up and would likely last 30 plus years save for possible replacement of the now tinny WP dryer and some repairs to the SQ stack. However I have found that my SQ dryer keeps up well with the FL washer. The only exceptions would be large loads of thick towels or when I do a short wash. As this SQ stack is a true commercial unit I can't see how you could wear it out in less than 30 years unless you are doing 5 or more loads a day.
WK78


Post# 1001458 , Reply# 73   7/25/2018 at 23:06 (2,072 days old) by RP2813 (Sannazay)        

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Steer clear of the new SQ top loader.  It's an entirely different system new for 2018 and it's 100% incapable of handling the jobs you would need it to do, or pretty much any laundering job at all for that matter.

 

Stacked machines are always washer on the bottom and dryer on top.  Washer is never on top.  I suppose you could stack two dryers if you wanted to.  


Post# 1001462 , Reply# 74   7/25/2018 at 23:56 (2,072 days old) by neptunebob (Pittsburgh, PA)        
Per the SQ web site...

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The only FL washer SQ sells now is the stacked unit washer and dryer and yes, it is all one unit with the dryer on top (although it might be possible to take the dryer unit off to get it into the house, but cannot be installed separately). The second dryer would then go beside that unit and can be another brand since you don't like the SQ dryer that much, but you have that too. I find most of the time, it takes less time to wash than to dry, but that is more with top loaders. Still a good idea to have 2 dryers, you never have laundry pile up. Don't get a condenser dryer - expensive and take too long.

Post# 1001464 , Reply# 75   7/26/2018 at 03:03 (2,072 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula)        

Other alternative, if you can wait a few months is wait and get THREE The Laundry Alternative HATL washers.

Together they will take just a few inches more than one 27 inch washer and bring the best of two worlds

then next to them you can have a regular full size dryer and stack on the top of it two The Laundry Alternative Mojave dryers.

AWO members have a discount, just mention it when you contact the company.

Best of all, you will have a monster laundry room fitting in a tiny space and no need to call an electrician to hook them up as they all will run in regular outlets, plus the full size dryer using the existing dryer outlet.

Or you can have two HATL washers and one HATL Washer-dryer combo (to be released later this year). So you add the convenience of having at least one washer that you can toss a load in it at night and when you wake up it's ready to fold.


Post# 1001465 , Reply# 76   7/26/2018 at 03:05 (2,072 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula)        

BTW, our HATL washers and the washer-dryer combo can easily handle a king size duvet...

Post# 1001500 , Reply# 77   7/26/2018 at 11:58 (2,071 days old) by Meldew (Georgia)        

Thank you for the info... I will look into it for sure but I’ll have to at least get a temporary solution for now.

Post# 1001595 , Reply# 78   7/27/2018 at 10:25 (2,071 days old) by briant73 (Pennsylvania)        

About SQ front load stand alone machines, Jkbff are you saying they are back in production after being discontinued in early 2018? Do you have any information on them and if any changes from previous years models?

I moved on from SQ after my FL developed bad bearings but it's always good people have options when shopping.



Post# 1001597 , Reply# 79   7/27/2018 at 10:31 (2,071 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
@Meldew

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Where in Georgia are you located?

Malcolm


Post# 1001598 , Reply# 80   7/27/2018 at 10:45 (2,071 days old) by Meldew (Georgia)        

Northeast part of the state, closest to Athens...

Post# 1001599 , Reply# 81   7/27/2018 at 10:47 (2,071 days old) by Meldew (Georgia)        

I need to get something fast tho. Local appliance store can do same day install if they have it but not on weekends. Big box stores I’m looking at next Tuesday-Wednesday for some models.

Post# 1001616 , Reply# 82   7/27/2018 at 12:21 (2,070 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
Elux

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I currently have the Electrolux flagship that I purchased 2 years ago.
I like them a lot.
The cycles can vary from 15 min quick wash to 3+ hours stain treatment.
I would recommend them.

Malcolm


Post# 1002989 , Reply# 83   8/8/2018 at 16:21 (2,058 days old) by wft2800 (Leatherhead, Surrey)        

Nowt wrong with condenser dryers, despite an earlier comment. You get much fluffier towels from them than vented dryers.

Bolt-down commercials are not a good idea - crude and slow-spinning, plus you get tons of vibration. Commercial machines now are increasingly soft-mount.

There are commercial-grade domestic-size soft-mount machines around in the US, including Girbau/Continental, Electrolux/Crossover, Maytag/Whirlpool and LG. Otherwise I'd go Miele Octoplus if you can - the dryer is vented, but hey ho.



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