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LG washer problems... already! Not sure wtd. |
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Post# 1002165 , Reply# 1   8/1/2018 at 16:50 (2,066 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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No Melissa, that was their complete incompetence. I am so sorry this happened to you. I have braided hoses on my washer. In fact, on my 2nd pair after 10 years. Never an issue. Although there are some sophisticated hoses that have an aqua-stop type of sensor for hoses that are leaking. That's probably why she's saying what she said, associating all metal braided hoses have that feature. |
Post# 1002168 , Reply# 3   8/1/2018 at 16:57 (2,066 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Post# 1002177 , Reply# 6   8/1/2018 at 17:49 (2,066 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)   |   | |
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meldew: I am running a third normal cycle - 58 minutes, TurboWash not spraying, clothes and washer look almost dry.Is the situation really dry or are you interpreting that based on appearance? Do you hear and/or see water running in (through the dispenser drawer)? Pause the cycle and check the clothes? Maybe the machine has some sort of adaptive intelligence and is in the process of getting an electronic handle on the local usage patterns, thus acting somewhat erratic? |
Post# 1002180 , Reply# 8   8/1/2018 at 18:10 (2,066 days old) by meldew (Georgia)   |   | |
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I don't know. I'm running a sanitary cycle with 3 twin blankets. The turbo is working fine this time. I've watched it for 10 minutes. Pretty constant spraying. Only 1.5 hour cycle. |
Post# 1002181 , Reply# 9   8/1/2018 at 18:12 (2,066 days old) by ea56 (Cotati, Calif.)   |   | |
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sounds just like what my LG FL did, but it didn’t have TurboWash. If I selected the heavy soil level and Normal cycle I kid you not, the load would get a few short bursts of water, just barely damping the outside edges, then tumble that way for at least 24 mins! The inside of the load was clearly dry in the center looking through the window.
Then the machine would fill with enough water to barely wet the entire load and tumble for another 5 mins, then drain and begin the spin and rinses. There is no way that these clothes were getting clean. If I selected normal soil level the inital fill was better. But I found the work around that gave the most water was using the Bulky cycle, with Water Plus option, and this gave enough water fill that really cleaned, but then I was limited to the slower med. spin speed, so I would need to then do a separate spin at high or extra high. Just too much monkey business for me. And worse of all, sometimes it would take over 30 mins for it to finally find the sweet spot so the final spin would begin and finish. I do not miss this washer at all. Maybe if I’d bought the next model up withTurboWash I’d have been happier, but sound like you are having some of the same problems I had with your TurboWash model. And the phone tech support from LG is less than useless, as well as their owners manual. I love my Maytag Centennial TL, no matter what anyone says. This machine has provided 100% trouble free use for the last 20 months. I don’t regret my decision to buy this machine at all. And it holds just as much as the LG FL did, and completes every load in 50-60 mins. and never hesitates to spin. It does just what its supposed to do, wash the damn laundry. This is why I recommended the Maytag Commercial TL for you. I hope that you will finally get some satisfaction with your washing machine. With the amount of laundry you do,you don’t have the time to fiddle around with work arounds. An automatic washer should be just that AUTOMATIC! Eddie |
Post# 1002184 , Reply# 12   8/1/2018 at 18:16 (2,066 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)   |   | |
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Wow! I've never heard of this! It may be the pump that is not working. |
Post# 1002185 , Reply# 13   8/1/2018 at 18:18 (2,066 days old) by meldew (Georgia)   |   | |
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Thanks Eddie just reread your post. Yep I need something I don't have to babysit for sure. :(. I just don't know if I can fit the dog whelping pads in a top loader. I was doing the butter churn method with the SQ. |
Post# 1002187 , Reply# 14   8/1/2018 at 18:21 (2,066 days old) by meldew (Georgia)   |   | |
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Maybe we clogged something with a puppy fleece? If that's the case this machine is too delicate for us. Sorry to stream of consciousness post, but I don't think I can edit my posts. |
Post# 1002191 , Reply# 15   8/1/2018 at 18:33 (2,066 days old) by ea56 (Cotati, Calif.)   |   | |
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Melissa, I can wash a kingsize comforter or two king pillows in my Maytag using the Bulky Cycle, and they come out clean. Now dog whelping pads will no doubt be much dirter than my pillow and comforter, so you would problalby want to do a separate soak cycle before the Bulky Cycle, but I’m sure you would get them clean.
LIke I said in an ealier post, my family used to do the laundry for 10 people in a 62 Whirlpool TL, which was smaller than my current 3.6 cu ft. Maytag, and we all wore clean clothes, I can assure you. Granted we washed everyday, but it got done. Eddie |
Post# 1002196 , Reply# 16   8/1/2018 at 18:59 (2,066 days old) by littlegreeny (Milwaukee, WI)   |   | |
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Post# 1002208 , Reply# 20   8/1/2018 at 20:59 (2,066 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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These got fairly popular here a few years ago, Home Depot sold tons of them and we made thousands of $$s running service calls on this stupid idea of a better hose.
These hoses are useless, they only will shut off the water if the hose breaks all at once, but 98% of the time a hose gets a pinhole leak that sprays water at a rate far slower than a washer fills so the feature will only really work if you chop the hoses in half with a malachite, LOL.
As for the LG washer send it back to china via Best Buy.
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Post# 1002209 , Reply# 21   8/1/2018 at 21:00 (2,066 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Post# 1002212 , Reply# 22   8/1/2018 at 21:26 (2,066 days old) by meldew (Georgia)   |   | |
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haha yes I will! :) |
Post# 1002236 , Reply# 23   8/2/2018 at 06:28 (2,065 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)   |   | |
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You know, here in Georgia we have been having some horrendous storms the past few days. Maybe your machine has taken a power surge during that time. I wonder if you unplugged it for a couple hours, it might right itself. Additionally, can soil level setting effect turbo wash activation? Maybe heavier soil level setting increases the turbo wash activation? Malcolm |
Post# 1002243 , Reply# 24   8/2/2018 at 06:58 (2,065 days old) by littlegreeny (Milwaukee, WI)   |   | |
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Post# 1002253 , Reply# 26   8/2/2018 at 09:45 (2,065 days old) by ea56 (Cotati, Calif.)   |   | |
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Post# 1002254 , Reply# 27   8/2/2018 at 09:59 (2,065 days old) by jkbff (Happy Rock, ND)   |   | |
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Try swapping the hoses incase bestbuy did set you up with the water stop hoses. We take them off of everything that has them because we have issues all the time.
double check that there isn't debris in the hoses and make sure the house water valves are both open fully. this doesn't sound normal at all, even for an LG. |
Post# 1002255 , Reply# 28   8/2/2018 at 10:00 (2,065 days old) by IowaBear (Cedar Rapids, IA)   |   | |
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Post# 1002259 , Reply# 29   8/2/2018 at 10:12 (2,065 days old) by golittlesport (California)   |   | |
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I have an LG FL with turbo wash and the machine came with two rubber hoses, one red, one blue. I got mine from BB but installed it myself using the rubber hoses. What did BB do with the red and blue rubber hoses that come with the machine? I've had stainless hoses on a previous machine and they seriously restricted water flow.
A "normal" cycle with turbo wash runs about 45 minutes with an extra rinses selected. Full flow recirculation spray onto the load. While turbo wash does use less water, if I stop and open the door, there is a small pool of water in the bottom of the tub. Bottom line, something is wrong with this machine. Send it back to BB and get another. And if BB insists on installing stainless hoses, take them off and replace with rubber hoses. |
Post# 1002280 , Reply# 30   8/2/2018 at 12:28 (2,065 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)   |   | |
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There are very few manufacturer's that include fill hoses anymore. You were likely sold a set during the check out process. Whether you realized it or not.
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Post# 1002290 , Reply# 31   8/2/2018 at 13:38 (2,065 days old) by washerdude (Canada )   |   | |
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There is a method to "reset" the board. Unsure if this would work but I think giving it a try is worth it. |
Post# 1002291 , Reply# 32   8/2/2018 at 13:43 (2,065 days old) by henene4 (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany))   |   | |
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Looking at what she's doing, it appears that there actually is a fault mode where the PCB might get stuck before boot up. What she is esentialy doing is draining some capacitors on the board. Try it, could work. |
Post# 1002297 , Reply# 34   8/2/2018 at 14:05 (2,065 days old) by ea56 (Cotati, Calif.)   |   | |
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I still say if that nice , used Whirlpool set is still available, get them and then TAKE YOUR TIME making your decision on what YOU really want. Don’t let others unduly influence you, as you will have to live with what you get , not me or anyone else, but you. You will be able to do your families laundry in the meantime, and not feel pressured into making a decision you may later regret.
My husband taught me, act in haste, repent in leisure, and no truer words were ever spoken. Eddie |
Post# 1002305 , Reply# 37   8/2/2018 at 15:14 (2,065 days old) by jkbff (Happy Rock, ND)   |   | |
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Post# 1002323 , Reply# 38   8/2/2018 at 18:09 (2,065 days old) by littlegreeny (Milwaukee, WI)   |   | |
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My mother in law has a LG 4370 that she purchased last September. She's in her 60s and this is her favorite washer. She also got the sidekick. I've watched plenty of cycles and done loads for her and can attest to it working well, Turbowash working wonderfully and doing an excellent job washing and rinsing.
If LG has turned you off, what about a Whirlpool or Maytag front loader? They are made in the USA and seem to be well built. There is a bottom of the line Whirlpool at my mom's assisted living facility that sees a dozen tragic loads a day and its still chugging away after several years of very heavy use. It's a Whirlpool WFW75HEFWSKU. |
Post# 1002324 , Reply# 39   8/2/2018 at 18:13 (2,065 days old) by littlegreeny (Milwaukee, WI)   |   | |
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Post# 1002330 , Reply# 40   8/2/2018 at 18:59 (2,065 days old) by stricklybojack (South Hams Devon UK)   |   | |
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You do realize there is absolutely no way on god’s green earth, to ever under any circumstances at all whatsoever, return a Speed Queen washer or dryer? once delivered they are yours forever no matter what happens. They will repair as needed under waranty, but NO REFUNDS or REPLACEMENT machines, PERIOD. Just sayin’...some people should probably shop where returning a faulty or troubled appliances is doable. i suspect you are such a customer. Stear clear of SQ, the risk is too great. |
Post# 1002336 , Reply# 42   8/2/2018 at 19:20 (2,065 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Post# 1002359 , Reply# 44   8/2/2018 at 22:40 (2,065 days old) by mrsalvo (New Braunfels Texas)   |   | |
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Melissa, what if you added a gallon of water to the dry clothes when you load the washer to trick it into thinking its a heavier load and maybe get more water in the cycles. Would that help?....since the turbo sprayers are not working. Would think it would be worth a try. Barry |
Post# 1002368 , Reply# 45   8/2/2018 at 23:36 (2,065 days old) by golittlesport (California)   |   | |
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My LG 3570 did indeed come with rubber water intake hoses and they are mentioned as included accessories in the 3570 use and care manual. Maybe they are not provided anymore, but they were included with the machine two years ago when I bought mine at BB.
From page 8 of the LG manual Included Accessories: Hot/cold water hoses Non-skid pads Caps for covering shipping bolt holes Wrench Tie strap Elbow bracket (for securing drain |
Post# 1002411 , Reply# 49   8/3/2018 at 11:45 (2,064 days old) by Stricklybojack (South Hams Devon UK)   |   | |
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Understand NONE of the people here saying you should go ahead and buy a SQ machine WILL GIVE YOU ONE THIN DIME if things don’t work out and you are stuck (like me) with machines you don’t trust. One will tell you BS crap about: “never having seen an SQ fail, must be user error blah blah blah”...only to have a hen house of egg on his face AFTER we now know that front load SQ machines were marketed with a design manaufacturing defect...and still no apology for their snide cluelessness. I am not waiting for such common decency, but I won’t sit idly by and let it happen again. People here should put their money where their mouth is if they recommend THIS individual buy a SQ machine...and be prepared to pony up the dough if things don’t work out and she can’t return, replace, or get a refund. But we all know that won’t happen so be careful what you post. All new SQ buy recommendations should contain the proviso that the company does not —as a general rule— replace or refund...you are completely at the mercy of the dealer and their judgement regarding washing your, “dog beds and riding gear”...it likely will not be favorable. This post was last edited 08/03/2018 at 16:10 |
Post# 1002424 , Reply# 50   8/3/2018 at 13:40 (2,064 days old) by ea56 (Cotati, Calif.)   |   | |
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so tub.
Melissa, I suggest you read the reviews on this machine. I just gave them a glance last night and many people state they have been unhappy with the long cycle times, and other issues with this machine,like poor extraction. I personally wouldn’t touch it. If you are concerned about the capacity of the smaller 3.8 cu ft. Centennial or the 3.5 cu. Commercial MT TL’s, you should know that they really hold a lot. I can easily fit an entire large filled 2 bushel size laundry basket full of mixed items into one load, and they all come out perfectly clean and well rinsed in 50-60 mins depending upon the soil level selected and whether you select a presoak. And as I said before, I can wash two king pillows at once, or a king comforter’bedspread with no problem. But I would stay away from that extra large capacity MT TL. I did laundry yesterday, had two full basket, could have easily only done two loads, but since I sort my loads, I did three medium sized loads. All washed, dried and folded in three hours. With the long cycle times on the LG FL 3170 that the MT replaced, I would have been looking at 5 hours. Eddie |
Post# 1002439 , Reply# 51   8/3/2018 at 15:48 (2,064 days old) by Rolls_rapide (.)   |   | |
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Did you try cleaning the sump filter? Maybe something was intermittently blocking the recirculation pump... fluff/lint, dog hair, sweetie wrappers, coins... |
Post# 1002447 , Reply# 52   8/3/2018 at 17:36 (2,064 days old) by littlegreeny (Milwaukee, WI)   |   | |
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I'd personally only consider a front loader that has a built-in heater.
Before you go through returning the LG, try running the test cycle and swapping out those stainless steel hoses. You might also want to look at the inlet screens of the LG where the hoses attach to the machine to make sure they didn't inadvertently get clogged during installation (once the new hoses were attached to the shutoff valves, they should have been flushed). Multiple sources state LG is among the most reliable washer brands. |
Post# 1002452 , Reply# 54   8/3/2018 at 19:22 (2,064 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)   |   | |
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Stainless/braided-jacket supply hoses are not a point of concern unless they have some sort of embedded flood-prevention device. However, there are hoses (check what's available at your various local sources) that have a larger internal diameter that may provide less restriction on flow rate ... depending on what sort of restriction is built-in to the machine's inlet valves that would trump the hoses. |
Post# 1002460 , Reply# 55   8/3/2018 at 20:31 (2,064 days old) by IowaBear (Cedar Rapids, IA)   |   | |
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I've never faced the mountains of laundry this women has.
As much as I like my front loader I have to admit that my old direct-drive top loader was fast. There's very good water pressure in my house and that TL filled quickly. It could do a load in 30-35 minutes.
That machine and two dryers could get a lot of laundry done in a short amount of time. |
Post# 1002485 , Reply# 57   8/4/2018 at 07:03 (2,063 days old) by Pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)   |   | |
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meldew have you considered the option of a vintage washer dryer set that's an inglis washer dryer from 1993 inglis royal100 and maybe you shloud look maybe your area have stores that sell older appliances and if you look on craiglist in your area you might find some for sale that are still in great working condition
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Post# 1002490 , Reply# 59   8/4/2018 at 08:23 (2,063 days old) by Pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)   |   | |
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@meldew have you considered the whirlpool top load with a wash plate and also if you have to treat stains this washer also has a built in faucet if you need to pre-treat stains or if needed here the link it also has a 5.5 capacity size also included a pic of the washer as well as the link
www.whirlpool.ca/en_ca/la...
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Post# 1002491 , Reply# 60   8/4/2018 at 08:25 (2,063 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Most durable, longest lived, easiest to service and repair, least expensive to own over its 25-50 year expected life, longest parts and labor warranty,
Is A Speed Queen Front Load Washer.
[ Note SQ FLers do have easy drain trap access by just remove two very accessible screws on the lower panel and lifting the entire lower panel off, overall it is much easier than working through a little door that other machines have ]
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Post# 1002509 , Reply# 64   8/4/2018 at 11:41 (2,063 days old) by meldew (Georgia)   |   | |
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Why no comments about whirlpool commercial front loaders or Bosch front loaders? Other than drum size and lack of heater. |
Post# 1002513 , Reply# 65   8/4/2018 at 11:59 (2,063 days old) by ea56 (Cotati, Calif.)   |   | |
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Send it back! Trust your instincts! If a brand new washer doesn’t perform as its supposed to right out of the box, its not going to get any better with time.
And I completly disagree with all the suggestions to change hoses, clean filters, ect. Its only been used for a few loads, the filter shouldn’t need cleaning yet, unless you washed something that disintegrated and clogged the filter. And if the hoses are just plain braided SS, without flood stop protectors, this wouldn’t be an issue either. If you start out by excepting “work arounds” with this machine from the beginning, it will only get worse. And did I read correctly in previous posts, but didn’t you already have an LG in the past that you weren't happy with? Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me. And this isn’t meant to be critical of you Melissa, I’ve made the same mistake myself in my life, and I hate to admit, more than once, until I finally learned my lesson! The same goes for the SQ, you didn’t like that machine, and fortunately were able to sell it. The next time you may not be so lucky if you don’t like it. You have a dealer that is willing to take it back, take them up on their fair offer. And, it would be best to do an exchange for different brand with this dealer, to honor their fair treament to you as a customer. You’ll get a much better deal in the end. They clearly want you to be a satisfied customer, give them the chance the make this happen. Just my two cents worth. Eddie |
Post# 1002522 , Reply# 66   8/4/2018 at 13:07 (2,063 days old) by RP2813 (Sannazay)   |   | |
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Ditto what Eddie said. This machine is destined to be a lemon, but I think lemon laws only apply to cars and trucks.
Korean machines have a reputation for lousy service and parts availability. You want to buy a machine that, if it needs parts or service, there is virtually no wait for either. You can't afford the down time involved if a Korean machine has problems. Look at it this way: Sears hasn't exactly been a hotbed of wise decision making in recent years, and they abandoned Whirlpool as manufacturer of their Kenmore washers and went with the Koreans. Don't be like Sears.
A commercial machine might be best for your situation. I've seen used ones on CL and posted here in the SS forum. You'll have to sacrifice looks in favor of longevity, though.
A Miele designed for home use would likely be as costly if not more expensive than a SQ front loader. I can't justify the cost of either one for my needs, but for yours, they make more sense and would last far longer than other makes. Considering what your loads can consist of, the easy filter access of a Miele is a plus, although if you don't have to do it all that often, the SQ wouldn't be terrible. I considered a Bosch Nexxt pair when I was shopping for FL machines about ten years ago, but reviews weren't overwhelmingly positive, and capacity wasn't the greatest either. The clincher was when another member here said the doors were reminiscent of toilet seats. Not something you want to have staring back at you from your exposed laundry area.
Although Jim stated above that a washer and two dryers can make processing laundry move along nicely, I think you should try to figure out how to work in an old-school machine like a pre-1987 large tub Maytag for the animal laundry and a new FL or Whirlpool-built Maytag like Eddie's for household items. True Maytags from the '80s and earlier are still in widespread use across the country, and many of them have required little or no service in all of those years. If you get a nice one from a vacation rental or some other low-use situation, you'll have a machine that you can't kill. Take your time and wait for something like that to come up for your second machine. I can throw anything at my back-up Maytag and it will process the load in commanding fashion. Such a machine also offers the option for a true soak for as long as you need it to. Just shut the thing off and let things sit in a full tub of truly hot water.
As for your household laundry, a matched set is nice to look at, but in the end, you just need the best machines for their respective jobs. |
Post# 1002551 , Reply# 69   8/4/2018 at 15:28 (2,063 days old) by meldew (Georgia)   |   | |
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Yes my water heater is 120 rn, and in the basement. |
Post# 1002554 , Reply# 70   8/4/2018 at 15:37 (2,063 days old) by RP2813 (Sannazay)   |   | |
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You need a minimum water heater setting of 120 in order for heaters in clothes washers and dish washers to be effective.
I think you could get away with setting your heater at 130, which still isn't scalding hot. With the heater in the basement, and if you don't have a sink near the washer to purge the hot water line first, the 120 setting won't provide you with a very hot wash. |
Post# 1002556 , Reply# 71   8/4/2018 at 15:41 (2,063 days old) by littlegreeny (Milwaukee, WI)   |   | |
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What about something like this:
www.bestbuy.com/site/whir... Or this: www.bestbuy.com/site/mayt... Both have plenty of cycles, built in heaters, sanitize cycles, quick wash cycles and large capacity for your family. |
Post# 1002584 , Reply# 74   8/5/2018 at 07:42 (2,062 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Can be useful, BUT less than 20% of washers in the US have them and of the people that do have them very few use them often or at all.
A wash temperature between about 90F and 120F is more than hot enough for good cleaning with good modern enzyme detergents, if additional whiting or disinfecting are necessary LCB can be very useful. In the US and around the world almost 1/2 of people are washing in all cold tap temperature water and while I don't think this is ideal it is actually working well for most people, but in reality most clothing only needs to be washed in water that is body temperature or slightly above, especially if you are going to put the clothing in a dryer and heat the clothing to 140F+ anyway which will kill off any dust mites etc.
If you own a US FL washer and want a hotter wash occasionally just set the machine for a hot wash and start it with a 1/2 dose of detergent and after 5 or 10 minutes cancel the cycle and restart the machine with additional detergent on a hot wash. Doing this will use much less electricity if you have a natural gas water heater like most US homes and as a result cause much less carbon emissions to be released in the atmosphere and give you great cleaning.
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Post# 1002605 , Reply# 75   8/5/2018 at 12:20 (2,062 days old) by mrboilwash (Munich,Germany)   |   | |
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Melissa, I`m not familiar with your LG washer and it seems rather unlikely that something you washed clogged the pump so quickly, but I would still suggest checking the pump filter because it wouldn`t surprise me if you found a foreign object that has been sitting there right from the start. Workers in factories sometimes might "lose" things like packaging materials from their lunch or whatever else in the products they produce. Like surgeons sometimes forget things in patients.
I`d rule out the steel braided hoses even if they had a mechanical shut down feature because once activated I don`t think they`d open up ever again. You can hear water entering the machine when a cycle is started, can`t you ? |
Post# 1002607 , Reply# 76   8/5/2018 at 13:07 (2,062 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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Dust mites can survive a 120 degrees wash and also a treatment with bleach. In order to remove dust mites from bedding you are better off with a front loader with a heater. To kill dust mites laundry should be washed at a minimum of 140 degrees for about an hour. Higher temperatures will kill them in a shorter time. That is why some American front loaders have a sanitize cycle of over 150 degrees and longer cycles. If you have someone in your household with asthma and/or a dust mite allergy, a front loader with a heater is the only way to go.
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Post# 1002609 , Reply# 77   8/5/2018 at 13:14 (2,062 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)   |   | |
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meldew have you tough before having your washer exchange to call in a service tech to have the washer check out if your washer is still on the legal warrenty you can call the store where you purchase the machine and ask them to exchange if for the same model if still available or the most recent model on the market
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Post# 1002644 , Reply# 79   8/5/2018 at 20:43 (2,062 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Post# 1002683 , Reply# 80   8/6/2018 at 06:23 (2,061 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)   |   | |
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have you considered looking at the whirlpool duet set or maytag maxima set? pic so you can see what they look like?
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Post# 1002700 , Reply# 82   8/6/2018 at 09:27 (2,061 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)   |   | |
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or Duet would be my second choice to the LG, even though I'm still leery about LG. For me personally, I keep hoping the Duet/Maytag's will be updated soon. I keep hearing they will but I feel like it's never going to happen. I'm hoping they have recirculation and drain access doors on the new ones and I will scrap the LG thought altogether. I think Maxima would be the best second choice for you, even though they don't have recirculation.
The only problem is that NONE of the Whirlpool/Maytag/Electrolux FL machines have drain access doors to check for clogs, so you better check every single last pocket for loose items before you wash like I do, or it could get in the drain. If you can do this, it should be fine. I still have managed to wash a small screwdriver and some coins that I missed, so it can still happen. Luckily they stayed in the drum. These drain access doors are deep in the machine that has to be taken apart to get to..which is SO STUPID! Other than these, I feel like they are decent machines that would probably last 5 years with the amount of laundry you do (but we never know, do we?). My Duet is almost 14 yrs old but it doesn't get used nearly as much as yours will. I feel like I'm on borrowed time with it even though it shows no signs of dying. If you do change out for Maytag Maxima, test all the cycles. I don't like to ever use the normal cycle on these machines because I feel like it's the most stingy cycle with water. I think that's the cycle they use to determine energy efficiency since that's the cycle most people will use. But some people here say they use normal on them and it's fine. |
Post# 1002701 , Reply# 83   8/6/2018 at 09:28 (2,061 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Post# 1002705 , Reply# 84   8/6/2018 at 10:31 (2,061 days old) by Meldew (Georgia)   |   | |
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There’s also all those compact/euro size/commercial style machines but they don’t all stack, they mostly don’t have heaters, and some of the dryers aren’t vented. |
Post# 1002706 , Reply# 85   8/6/2018 at 10:31 (2,061 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)   |   | |
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the wise choice is like what mark_wpduet is saying have a g1 whirlpool duet set 14 years of use only repairs where on the dryer dryer cleanup the first time fuse replacement second repair also with the maxima you get the load and go dispenser this means you do not have to fill with detergent everytime washer dispenser te needed amount automaticaly
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Post# 1002709 , Reply# 86   8/6/2018 at 11:03 (2,061 days old) by Meldew (Georgia)   |   | |
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Isn’t the Maytag I mentioned the same as the WP essentially? Other than the Load and Go feature? |
Post# 1002711 , Reply# 87   8/6/2018 at 11:04 (2,061 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Post# 1002713 , Reply# 88   8/6/2018 at 11:06 (2,061 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Post# 1002717 , Reply# 89   8/6/2018 at 11:51 (2,061 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)   |   | |
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they are both the same only on the maytag the cycle is called power wash here the link if you went to read it up on the actual website you can even do a zoom in closeup of the controls to see the features
www.maytag.com/washers-an... |
Post# 1002722 , Reply# 90   8/6/2018 at 12:45 (2,061 days old) by Meldew (Georgia)   |   | |
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Okay when I get home I’ll read up on it. Eyes dilated at optometrist so reading is a challenge right now! |
Post# 1002730 , Reply# 92   8/6/2018 at 13:44 (2,061 days old) by meldew (Georgia)   |   | |
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here is the long vent whirlpool: www.lowes.com/pd/Whirlpoo... |
Post# 1002743 , Reply# 93   8/6/2018 at 15:55 (2,061 days old) by lotsosudz (Sacramento, CA)   |   | |
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I own the same model of LG, and have no issues whatsoever! Make them repair it, or give you a new one. These are wonderful units. I'm sorry you have had such a negative experience. When working properly, they can do just about anything you could ask them to. LG's customer service, is like a lot of them. They read off cue cards, and if you ask something, not on the cards, they have not got a clue. I t's seems to be the way of the world.
Sad but true! Give them another chance to redeem themselves, as they are very good units when working properly! Just my 2 cents. Hugs, David |
Post# 1002748 , Reply# 94   8/6/2018 at 16:33 (2,061 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Whirlpool seems to be getting away from the name Duet. It will be interesting to see if the new models ill have Duet or not. Thus far, all Maytag front loaders have Maxima. But again, after new models are announced, one will see.
I know you're concerned about cycle length. AS I've suggested before, if you know you're going to be doing a load that is going to be longer due to high heat such as Sanitary or Allergiene, use the delay wash and have it start in the middle of the night and have it timed to end about the time you will be waking up. You end up dealing with some pretty dirty laundry. Even for warm wash, activate the steam to make sure temperature is good and warm. Temperatures are dumbed down. For lighter soiled things, I've been using my normal cycle for some things as I'm having to be concerned about water usage. I always select hot for Normal as it uses relatively smaller amount of water. It typically does a 10-15 minute wash phase on normal soil. But by the end of the wash phase, it's pretty tepid inside. What engages the heater to supplement and maintain temps is heavier soil levels and this allows for longer time for water to heat. Also, engage the steam option. With temps dumbed down, don't be afraid to select hot, especially for cycles that don't have steam as an option. The mass of the load has a big negative impact on incoming water temperature. And temp can drop quickly without the heater. Some loads that may be fine, but on your dirtier loads, that may not help with thorough effective cleaning. |
Post# 1002784 , Reply# 95   8/7/2018 at 01:02 (2,060 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)   |   | |
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FL washers are certainly not as fast as TL - but at the same time, 5 TL washer loads = 3 FL washer loads (give or take)
Don't get me started on dryer venting. I feel your pain and I've dealt with this since I moved into my new house in 2004 where the dryer vents to the ROOF! The first few years, I had to use a leaf blower because the run would stop up with lint. To top it off, my roof has a super steep pitch and the roof cap would be clogged with lint...It was such a pain. Things would dry so fast after a good cleaning of the vent run and roof cap, but it never lasted long before it was clogged again. I found a solution for me that is much better but probably not for most people. I had read a post on gardenweb a lady and her husband lived in a condo that had the same issues as me. She said her husband pulled the dryer out, got a paint strainer and lined the tube that connects the back of the dryer to the wall (sort of like lining a trash bag) then connected the tube to the dryer. It catches any lint that escapes the dryer lint screen (which is A LOT). Consequently, I have to get behind my dryer about every 2 to 3 weeks to clean the paint strainer (which isn't that difficult because my dryer and washer are not close together so I can get behind there pretty easily, plus the dryer isn't up against the wall. So it takes me about 5 minutes to clean it. So with your long vent run, are you sure the vent run is clean and not obstructed with accumulated lint? Long runs tend to do that..Whoever designs homes should make sure the dryer exhaust is a short run and not through the freaking roof. |
Post# 1002845 , Reply# 98   8/7/2018 at 14:35 (2,060 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)   |   | |
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Post# 1002850 , Reply# 99   8/7/2018 at 16:24 (2,060 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Post# 1002904 , Reply# 101   8/7/2018 at 23:04 (2,060 days old) by ea56 (Cotati, Calif.)   |   | |
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Well Melissa, you sure did put a lot of thought into your decision. I hope that you will be very pleased with your new machines.
I also think that you've been bit by the washer bug, just like most of the rest of us here on AW, so I won’t be surprised, if in a few years, or so you report back here that you looking for something else. But in the meantime, I sure do wish you all the best of luck with your latest acquisition, you’ve been through enough hassle for a while, now you need to get back to the business of get’n the wash’n done! Mazel! Eddie |
Post# 1002924 , Reply# 102   8/8/2018 at 05:43 (2,059 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Congratulations Melissa. Keep us posted. I love having a tub light. I'm glad you were so pleased with the results with your boys sports gear results. People think steam is a gimmick. But now you know what I know, it's a game changer. Use it for some of your other smelly stuff too.
Also, remember if you're ever curious as to what the water temperature is when wanting warm or hot, there's the button pushing combination that will give you the reading in C. Maybe another LG owner will post that here. |
Post# 1002939 , Reply# 103   8/8/2018 at 08:32 (2,059 days old) by littlegreeny (Milwaukee, WI)   |   | |
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My mother in law has the LG 4370 and she absolutely LOVES it! I've had plenty of opportunities to play with it and I love it too. The drum light is a great feature and the steam on the dryer actually hooks up to the water supply so you don't need to fill a reservoir. She bought her set late last year and it came with water supply hoses.
It also has two delicate cycles vs. one on most washers. This would be my number one choice if I bought a set today. |
Post# 1002954 , Reply# 104   8/8/2018 at 11:20 (2,059 days old) by golittlesport (California)   |   | |
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Good luck with your new machines. The turbo wash was what sold me on my 3570 washer. The detergent solution is first sprayed onto the clothes and pulled into the fibers as the tub accelerates speed, then the tub slows and fills for wash and the sprayers keep the load fully saturated. The spin-spray rinse is another feature which provided excellent rinsing results on the turbo wash cycles.
While the steam feature adds time to the cycle, it provides results you cannot attain without super hot water when you need it. It works exceptionally well with oxygen-based bleach products. Nice you have a tub light. My machine has tinted glass (ok on a car, dumb on a washer) and I use a flashlight when I want to see into the tub. On my machine, if you press "delay wash" and "wash temp" buttons simultaneously, the water temp in the tub will be displayed. If you press "delay wash" and "spin speed" at the same time, tub rotation speed will display. Your washer should come with rubber water supply hoses. I recommend using the hoses LG provides and not the stainless steel ones you have.
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Post# 1002994 , Reply# 105   8/8/2018 at 16:53 (2,059 days old) by Meldew (Georgia)   |   | |
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Hmmm that’s all extremely helpful! I did order the stainless hoses (was forced to) but I can return them afterwards. I’m excited! Two more days. |
Post# 1002998 , Reply# 106   8/8/2018 at 17:09 (2,059 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Post# 1003034 , Reply# 107   8/8/2018 at 20:45 (2,059 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Post# 1003062 , Reply# 108   8/9/2018 at 03:57 (2,058 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)   |   | |
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I totally forgot about the turbo wash "spray rinse"
It's awesome...when I first saw that my first thought was that ALL FL washers should have that, but they don't unfortunately. I really really REALLY hope Whirlpool's redesigned washers add some of the LG features like recirculation, spray rinse and drain access. A water plus button would be nice too, but that's probably asking WAY too much. |
Post# 1003067 , Reply# 109   8/9/2018 at 06:55 (2,058 days old) by Stricklybojack (South Hams Devon UK)   |   | |
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Post# 1003182 , Reply# 111   8/10/2018 at 10:25 (2,057 days old) by Meldew (Georgia)   |   | |
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Yes the Kenmore lg has the same thing called “Accella wash”. |
Post# 1003186 , Reply# 112   8/10/2018 at 10:46 (2,057 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Post# 1003239 , Reply# 113   8/10/2018 at 22:24 (2,057 days old) by littlegreeny (Milwaukee, WI)   |   | |
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Post# 1003243 , Reply# 114   8/10/2018 at 23:16 (2,057 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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But I would unstack them and install shelving over then instead as it is nearly impossible to repair either the W or D when they are stacked, it can become very costly to get them serviced and inconvenient as you often have to wait for and pay extra for two men to service them.
If anyone out there is ever tempted to stack separate units it is better to buy a one piece unit like a SQ FL stack where you can do 90% of repairs without moving the machine at all, I replaced a dryer motor in a SQS the other month in just 15 minutes, I don't even like thinking about replacing even a belt on a new dryer like these, you are looking at at least an hour. You have to approach this dryer from the back, top and front which if stacked means using a step stool and having lots of head room over the machine. On the washer there is nothing you can service without getting the dryer off the washer and out of the way.
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Post# 1003244 , Reply# 115   8/10/2018 at 23:32 (2,057 days old) by MattL (Flushing, MI)   |   | |
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Looks Good!
Now, we are all waiting for a report on wash action. Hope it is working as it should this time. |
Post# 1003490 , Reply# 116   8/13/2018 at 10:29 (2,054 days old) by golittlesport (California)   |   | |
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Nice! We have the same color scheme in our laundry room, although our LGs are side by side instead of stacked.
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Post# 1003565 , Reply# 118   8/13/2018 at 18:52 (2,054 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Melissa, congratulations on successful laundering!! I know I've said it before, but please remember these machines are smarter than us in lots of ways. Cycle length will vary due to many factors. But it has to do with water temp, soil level, and size/weight of the load. All things considering, the machine is giving you the cleanest clothes it can give you with the parameters you've given. You will adjust with time. Like I've said, take advantage of delay start to begin a load that is going to take a long time that will be ready about the time you wake up in the morning. In time you will learn to not be a clock watcher. Just go about doing what you would be doing elsewhere in the house and when it signals end of cycle, go switch out. Sometimes I'm glad cycles can be longer at times. I generally do very large loads myself (I stockpile and sort). but it takes a while for me to fold and put away or hang up out of dryer and put away sometimes so I'm just about ready when the washer is finished with next load. |
Post# 1003626 , Reply# 120   8/14/2018 at 01:10 (2,053 days old) by henene4 (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany))   |   | |
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The 30min cycle time claim is for an 8 pound load, so really not a whole lot. Bigger loads will increase cycle time. |
Post# 1003718 , Reply# 121   8/14/2018 at 19:59 (2,053 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)   |   | |
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the square door ones. Cool! They look great. Let's pray you never have issues. You will get used to cycle times......it's offset by the fact that they can handle much much MUCH more laundry. I let my laundry build up. I will see a pile of laundry that looks like 8 loads, and it ends up being 4 loads and it gets knocked out pretty quickly. I stopped paying attention to that a LONG time ago. I remember being annoyed at first. I still would never use the normal cycle in any front load machine.
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