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Post# 148906   8/17/2006 at 17:22 (6,460 days old) by nickuk (chelmsford UK)        

I had to point this one out to the Lincs possie.......

Nick



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Post# 148907 , Reply# 1   8/17/2006 at 17:28 (6,460 days old) by nickuk (chelmsford UK)        
and what's more

there is a 70s Hoover 1100 in Slough on ebay right now.....should this be my next project? I am SO tempted.....


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Post# 148908 , Reply# 2   8/17/2006 at 17:29 (6,460 days old) by nickuk (chelmsford UK)        
and this one

from NZ could be fun

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Post# 148917 , Reply# 3   8/17/2006 at 18:12 (6,460 days old) by stratus ()        
no way!

i used to have the hoover logic 1300 in australia, there were loads of old old old hoover front loaders out there in their second hand stores, before that one i had a super old one that didn't even have a dispenser drawer!

Post# 148920 , Reply# 4   8/17/2006 at 18:13 (6,460 days old) by lavamat_jon (UK)        

Paging Darren! Paging Darren!!!!

Post# 148921 , Reply# 5   8/17/2006 at 18:13 (6,460 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Do It!!!

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You go for the Hoover 1100 and I`ll go for the Hoover top loader!!! I got the 1100 from Mark and its fab, just found the matching dryer, ...

Mike


Post# 148923 , Reply# 6   8/17/2006 at 18:19 (6,460 days old) by lavamat_jon (UK)        

*waves to Mike*

Post# 148928 , Reply# 7   8/17/2006 at 18:39 (6,460 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
AND

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waves back, check your e-mail...

Post# 148931 , Reply# 8   8/17/2006 at 18:56 (6,460 days old) by lavamat_jon (UK)        

*waves other hand* check your email too Mike :-).

Post# 149009 , Reply# 9   8/18/2006 at 05:21 (6,460 days old) by mattywashboy (Perth, Western Australia)        
Aussie Top Loader

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Thatsa n Australian Hoover top loader, a fairly standard machine. It will have two cycles, regular and gentle (you select wash time) and does a PULSE spin after the wash, not a spray rinse, pulse meaning it just revs the spin up, slows down and repeats. It is a B.O.S.S machine, meaning Balnce Orbit Suspsension System, designed to stop the machine going OOB. Two of my friends have this machine, one has the 7.5 kg version which is different in that it has a seperate Permanant Press cycle with a cool down. These machines have 4 wash temps, Cold, Warm, Hot and Wool. Aso they have Drip Dry options. One of the first hoover TL machines to not have the noisy spin solenoid that would scare the knickers of any faint hearted housewife. They make a loud CLICK but not a huge BANG!!!!! that older models did. Anyway thats the info on that particular machine. The cleaning quality is excellent in my experience and the sounds are good too.

The Hoover Zodiac 12 front load washing machine was one of those machines with no detergent dispenser, very inconveninent i found but if you don't use FS thenits easy to chuck a scoop of powder in the drum before adding the washing (i had one of these for a year and thats what i used to do).

I recommed the hoover top loader and the hoove aristocrat is a cool machine too, good luck to anyone who bids on these machines.

Matt in Aussie


Post# 149010 , Reply# 10   8/18/2006 at 05:26 (6,460 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom)        

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i will be bidding on the aristocrat logic as it makes more sense than repairing my logic 1300...question is who gets priority of kitchen cabinet in my new flat...my logic or my quartz or somethin new alltogether!!!!!! answers on a postcard!!!!


Darren


Post# 149012 , Reply# 11   8/18/2006 at 06:07 (6,460 days old) by hoover3060 ()        

Hi Nick

I would say go for the Electronic 1100. They are fab machines like Mike says. I cant wait to get mine plumbed in again when we move and to watch and to hear all those fantastic Hoover sounds once more.
Congrats on your restoration of the 18580.It looks great! I had an 18580 but with the shiny chrome door.It worked really well but the fascia and cabinet were not as good as yours.It was a casualty of the impending house move as we slimmed down our collection to not very many machines at all. Thankfully Mike had most of our collection so they went to a good home.The 18580 had already gone though before I listed what I had to sell.When I first used it I had the problem which I have had with a few older machines.The capacitor blew.Well they certainly create some smoke when those things blow!

Darren great your going for the Logic! Lovely machine.I have always like logics and I did have an ecologic 1200 but it was not as nice I thought as the proper original Logics.I would love to have a logic again but I have to be so good not to let the collection go mad again and get too out of hand with regards to the space we will have.I did always have 2 Hoover dream machines though to find and I found the 3060 so only 1 more to look out for.

Mike you have to go for the Hoover top loader so someone in the Uk will have an Agitator Hoover top loading machine.It looks really nice and I love the stainless steel tub! It looks like it will create some good turnover also.If you get you have to do some vids.Glad you have now got the matching dryer for the 3060.There is nothing better than having the matching pair. I got hold of a D6008 a few weeks back and was going to offer it to you so you would have the matching dryer for the 3006 but then remembered you got a 6008 off eBay.I have instead stripped it so I will have spares for the 6042 as they are nearly identical machines.

Mark


Post# 149013 , Reply# 12   8/18/2006 at 06:12 (6,460 days old) by hoover3060 ()        

Nick

I forgot to give you the link to my video of the Hoover Electronic 1100 final spin.
There are a few other vids to watch aswell.

Mark


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Post# 149018 , Reply# 13   8/18/2006 at 07:14 (6,460 days old) by nickuk (chelmsford UK)        
Thanks Mark

I was very close to bididng on yours when it was up for sale but I botttled out - I just wanted to focus on the Hotpoint. Glad it went to Mike and he found the dryer, I'm also after the dryer for the Hotpoint. I'm sure one will come up soon. Yes - I wish my Hotpoint had the silver door, I gather that was `proper' Hotpoint and mine was probably what they called a `Curry's Special' which meant that certain parts had reduced appearance and were cheaper to buy. The door on this one is also plastic not glass......thanks very much for your reply. I may well bid for that Hoover.

Stratus - can I ask why you reacted the way you did about the Logic? You had bad experiences with them or you just don't like `em? On a different note how are you enjoying living in London? I lived in Winchmore Hill N21 for about six years and loved it but I was also glad to `get out'.

Good luck with the bidding Darren. The Logic 1300 has a great spin sound. I think the final spin is 3 stages 800-1000-1300 but I may be wrong. The Logic went from distribute to 800 which I always really liked. But then I guess you know that duh

Cheers

Nick


Post# 149049 , Reply# 14   8/18/2006 at 10:42 (6,460 days old) by seamusuk (Dover Kent UK)        
Any Hoover

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Was an exclusive model the independent retailers who belong to the CIH(Euronics) buying group making them rarer than the standard models ;)- also just in case anyone didnt know the 1100 is a A3060 and was the 1st Hoover to have an 1100rpm spin(initially using the same bearings as the 800rpm version, hence this model had an appauling reputation for bearing failure- however I believe they were later upgraded ;)


Seamus


Post# 149052 , Reply# 15   8/18/2006 at 10:49 (6,460 days old) by seamusuk (Dover Kent UK)        
That should have said........

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Any Hoover machine with the Aristocrat name on it was a CIH exclusive!!

Post# 149060 , Reply# 16   8/18/2006 at 12:09 (6,459 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom)        

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Hey guys.
i think im gonna bid on the aristocrat 1300. seein how my original logic 1300 has gone wrong on me and i've been short on time to investigate her illness.

im movin into a new flat this week that has a hotpoint first edition washerdryer WD21. i will use it for a week or so and then i will be puttin my own machine in..either logic, quartz or somethin new...question is who will win...you decide!?! lol.

hoover3060: what was different about the ecoLogic in comparision to the logics. aside from the turquise paddles with the holes in? was it lower energy consumption and lower water levels?

Nickuk: my logic had a fantastic spin which went from distribution to 800rpm and then 1300rpm. jon has said to me before he believes the 1300rpm was comparable to his aegs 1600rpm!

the thing i miss about it most is the fantastic rinsing. which is swayin me to get another or mine fixed!


Darren


Post# 149078 , Reply# 17   8/18/2006 at 16:11 (6,459 days old) by nickuk (chelmsford UK)        

I made some general enquiries about the Elctronic 1100 and the very helpful response is below.......

Hi there.
Here are the questions you wanted to know.
First off I have no problems with the machine and im selling it as i have bought a late model one.
There is no rust that I can see and the original writing is still in perfect condition. There are no issues with disconnection and this will be done shortly. I live in a ground floor flat so getting it out will be no problem as long as there is a trolley to use from the flat to the truck.
I do not have any instruction book sorry.
I am hoping to receive around the £50.00 mark through the bid process. I have ben informed that this will not be a problem as the bid draws to an end.
I would require a bank cheque for the bid amount and then arrange for delivery soon after this.
Let me know if this is of interest to you.
thanks
David


All good - except I was hoping to pay around the £5 mark for it given that palletline will charge £50 and there are bound to be parts needed for it. If he wants £50 for it, and I look like I'm gonna win it for £5 at the last minute he'll get out of it somehow if my ebay experience is anything to go by.

Hmm hmm hmmm..........


Post# 149080 , Reply# 18   8/18/2006 at 16:22 (6,459 days old) by westtexman (Lubbock, Texas)        
Off the subject . . .

I've always wanted to visit Slough . . . well, at least since seeing the UK version of "The Office". LOL. It certainly looks like a great machine. Might be another nice project now that the Hotpoint is finished.

Bryan


Post# 149091 , Reply# 19   8/18/2006 at 19:44 (6,459 days old) by mattywashboy (Perth, Western Australia)        
A MATCHING SET!!!!

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Hoover Logic washer and Dryer pigeon pair!
OMG someone please grab these, thats the same washer we had when i was a kid.
Matt


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Post# 149123 , Reply# 20   8/19/2006 at 01:13 (6,459 days old) by nickuk (chelmsford UK)        
Oh Matty

Now that is tempting

I also used that very same washer for a couple of months in 1995 when I moved into my first flat aged 20.

They look in good condition too



Post# 149124 , Reply# 21   8/19/2006 at 02:59 (6,459 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom)        

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i'm tempted but its just the distance i'm weighin up. there in fantastic condition!

Post# 149128 , Reply# 22   8/19/2006 at 04:48 (6,459 days old) by lavamat_jon (UK)        

Wow! I'm loving that pair! If only I had the space :-(.

My friend has the exact same dryer, and I like it, though never seen it going!

Jon


Post# 149129 , Reply# 23   8/19/2006 at 04:53 (6,459 days old) by lavamat_jon (UK)        

Darren... you know you want to! It's only an hour and a half's drive :-).

I would bid on it myself... but I have no space :-(


Post# 149135 , Reply# 24   8/19/2006 at 06:55 (6,459 days old) by washboy2005 (UK)        
OOOOOOOOH

I like that set, my sister had the same washer, it was excellent, never failed to get anything clean, or rinse out fairy powder, which is a nightmare to rinse out as some of you know!!

Wish I was closer to these :-(

Take Care
Dan


Post# 149326 , Reply# 25   8/20/2006 at 06:48 (6,458 days old) by hoover3060 ()        

The Logic pair are lovely I must admit. Always fab to get a matching pair. I bet someone on here wont be able to resist!...lol

Darren there was hardly any difference between Logics and Ecologics.The main difference like you say was the drum paddles.The rest is just cosmetic as far as I am aware.
I have attached some pics of the Ecologic I had and as you can see they are vertually identical to the Logics.They did put a piece of plasic though across the door glass like the newwaves I guess to keep young children touching the glass if it was on a 95 degree wash.They mainly though just gave them a bit of a revamp.

Mark



Post# 149327 , Reply# 26   8/20/2006 at 06:49 (6,458 days old) by hoover3060 ()        

Detergent drawer front



Post# 149328 , Reply# 27   8/20/2006 at 06:50 (6,458 days old) by hoover3060 ()        

Option Buttons

Post# 149329 , Reply# 28   8/20/2006 at 07:08 (6,458 days old) by hoover3060 ()        

Hi Nick

I would definately try and go for the 1100 if you can.You will cetainly not be dissapointed with it if you win it.Is that you who has bid on it already?

Hopefully you may get it for a bargain price! Its always a bit that can be forgotten the delivery charges though.Its very easy to get excited thinking you are getting a bargain then you remember how much its going to cost to get it delivered!

I will be watching it and keeping my fingers crossed for you if you go for it.

Mark


Post# 149363 , Reply# 29   8/20/2006 at 10:35 (6,458 days old) by glamwales ()        

Greetings from Merthyr Tydfil

Long time reader / first message.


Since this is the UK thread , thought id say hello here.

I had a logic 1300 and loved it.


Post# 149395 , Reply# 30   8/20/2006 at 13:38 (6,457 days old) by nickuk (chelmsford UK)        
Hello Glamwales!

Funnily enough I spent alot of time using an `Ecologic 1300' in Cardiff when my then girlfriend lived above the XL Fish bar on Crwys Road, Cathays. Great machine, solid machine used many times a day and the spin was superb, but it needed to tumble more on cottons washes, the drum rested to much IMO.

I sure wish Hoover was still made at Merthyr!

Welcome to the club, the UK contingency is growing by about 4 a week at the moment!

Nick UK


Post# 149423 , Reply# 31   8/20/2006 at 15:19 (6,457 days old) by sparkcymru ()        
Merthyr

i always love passing the Hoover factory in Merthyr. What a great place. Glad its still going strong albeit candyfied lol

Steve


Post# 149426 , Reply# 32   8/20/2006 at 15:22 (6,457 days old) by nickuk (chelmsford UK)        
Oh really Steve

so the machines are still made there, but the parts are from Italy, right?

Nick


Post# 149437 , Reply# 33   8/20/2006 at 15:56 (6,457 days old) by nickuk (chelmsford UK)        
Hoover3060

Mark, I haven't bid on the 1100 yet, someone else has. I kow the seller want to get about £50 for it.

I can't decide to whether to bid on that or on the Logic washer and dryer set. I am more inclined to go with the set. That Logic 1100 means alot to me as it's the washer I first used when I loved in to my own flat (that exact one).

Ideally, in terms of the older 1100 like the one you've got, I'd like to waut and see if the 800 version of it comes up. Crazy, I know, but this was my first childhood washer. It has two little round silver spin selectors, not 3, and the panel is all silver not two tone. I don't know the model number. The spin went straight up to 800. The programs were numbers not letters. I think they are letters on the 1100 aren't they - `E: Non fast colours' etc etc.

There was an even older version of the Hoover I just mentioned which had a rocker switch instead of push buttons - `A / B' whereby A gave you the short spin and B the full spin. Many friends had this model which also, if I remember rightly, used a high water level for all the wash programs (single level switch at high setting!)

On the other hand the older machine is rarer and I'd be a fool to let it go! Decisions decision......

Nick


Post# 149600 , Reply# 34   8/21/2006 at 03:57 (6,457 days old) by hoover3060 ()        

Welcome Glamwales!!!

Nice to see another UK member. We are growing and growing.


Hi Nick

The model I think you are refering to is the A3006.It was called the "Automatic De Luxe". It has 2 silver buttons (It didnt have the wool one) and was 770 spin if I remember.The programmes were numbers yes you are correct.I did have one of these and it went to Mike. He got the matching dryer a few months ago. I have one picture of it which I have attached.Its the the one at the bottom right. But then again there was I think an Electronic 800 so that may be the one you are thinking of as im not sure what that looked like.The other model you are thinking about I think is the 3236H which like you say had A/B on the switch and was very simple you just selected A1 or A2 B1 or B2 and so on. With regards to the 1100 or Logic pair I will watch and see which you decide..difficult decision I must admit as I like the Logic pair also.

Mark


Post# 149661 , Reply# 35   8/21/2006 at 09:00 (6,457 days old) by sadose ()        
Hmmm

Makes me wish I didn't dump my little find...I miss my Energy Control Series Electron 800 De Luxe. :(

Post# 149841 , Reply# 36   8/22/2006 at 06:44 (6,456 days old) by washboy2005 (UK)        

Mark, just incase you have access to a Makro store, they are currently selling the newer toploader Whirlpool Washer and Dryer together for £449.98 plues VAT which equals £528.73, which is a bargain.

Wish I had space for them myself!!!!


Post# 149844 , Reply# 37   8/22/2006 at 06:57 (6,456 days old) by hoover3060 ()        

Hey Dan

Thanks very much for the info.We did indeed go to Makros last Tuesday the night before the Whirlpool offer was on to see if they had put them out yet (They sometimes have the offers out the night before). Well the washers and dryers had obviously been out a few days before the offer at full price for each machine.All the washers had been sold and there were 3 dryers left. The as always helpful (not) member of staff said...."I dunno when we are getting anymore in". I was not impressed and stomped off out of the store.

After thinking about it I came up with the solution.Im getting the washer model I really wanted off the internet now at a cheaper price.The model in Makro wasnt the model I wanted but the offer price for both couldnt be ignored.Im not now having the matching dryer.Im going to keep 2 Hoover dryers instead.

Mark


Post# 149874 , Reply# 38   8/22/2006 at 10:32 (6,456 days old) by nickuk (chelmsford UK)        
Hi Mark

Thanks very much for your last response, yes - that Hoover in the picture was the very first auto washer we had as a family. I never thought I'd see one again! To be honest, it was an extremely unreliable machine and was replaced in about 1985 with a Bendix. We hadn't realised that by that point Bendix was not the same as the old `square doors' and the machine we got was basically pants. That was replaced in 1990 with a Zanussi washer dryer. That was alright and gave a good clean wash but the dryer, as most dryers in combi units in my opinion, was inadequate.

3-10 days, huh? Have you stocked up on the `Ariel Twin Tub and Handwash' ?? Or do you plan to use regular detergent in it?

Nick


Post# 150024 , Reply# 39   8/23/2006 at 06:00 (6,455 days old) by hoover3060 ()        

Hey Nick

Happy to have posted the pic for you.

The Bendix machines after the square door ones were pants like you say. I adored my mums Bendix autowasher de luxe with the big square door and was so lucky a couple of months ago to get the instruction book for it off eBay.....Happy memories!.

With regards to the powder for the new Whilpool I will probably use Big box Ariel or Bold.Im not to keen on the twin tub powders these days as they foam up like mad!We are currently using Morrisons Cyclone for the twin tub and that foams really badly. Persil is the worst!!......Constant suds lock!!!

I was thinking of Bold because I always like to use the extra rinse option in the top loader and of course the fabric conditioner is dispensed after the first spin ready for the rinse so there wouldnt be much point in it as it would rinse once more and wash the conditioner out.I could though wait for the second rinse and then pour in conditioner.I thought if I used bold I would be able to have the second rinse and not worry about putting conditioner in.The problem is that I like conditioner to much so Im not sure what ill do!!

Mark


Post# 150026 , Reply# 40   8/23/2006 at 06:46 (6,455 days old) by nickuk (chelmsford UK)        
Hi Mark

Ahh....detergent....one of my favourite topics!!

Bold is a good product in so much as it cleans reasonably, softens laundry to a very moderate extent, and leaves laundry with a strong scent which lasts.

It is not so good for tough cleaning as any detergent with fabric conditioner in will not clean as well as one with out - it's a chemical thing. It doesn't offer any antistatic benefit. It doesn't help wrinkles to fall out of clothes. Personally, I would select Ariel as a big box detergent over Bold any day.

Ariel colour powder may be a good choice if you are considering using LCB in your new washer, LCB shouldn't be used with oxygen bleach or brighteners. You could add LCB to Ariel Colour no problem. You could also add oxi-action or something to give grubby light colours a boost when needed. The new Ariel scent is also very strong and long lasting, it's a bit like the Green Bold scent anyway.

Personally, I wouldn't worry too much about the softener going in the first rinse. I think you would be pleased with the results. Rinsing softener out is recommended for people with sensitive skin anyway. The clothes would still be softer than with Bold, and certainly would offer more antistatic benefits. They wouldn't be quite so limp / lank either.

I once had an Ariston which took the softener down half way through the rinses (because it was cr**) and I actually quite liked the result.

On another note, Jon and I have found that in terms of powder, Persil is a better rinser than Ariel. This seems to vary with water conditions though. Twin Tub powder - I have heard reccomendations for Tesco own, and have even sent a box of it over to Bryan (Westexman) though I don't think we've had a discussion about it yet. I've never used it.

You could of course use Bounce for loads which will be tumble dried though apparently this isn't good for the dryer.....

What a dilemma ! But it'll be fun working on a solution.

Nick





Post# 150235 , Reply# 41   8/24/2006 at 04:53 (6,454 days old) by hoover3060 ()        

Hi Nick

Its funny you mention the cleaning power of Bold as ive always thought its not as good as Ariel/Persil (OOPS Can I put those two side by side?). I love the smell of Bold though and its the only powder that Ive noticed really keeps its smell.My favourite is the blue one but then again ive never actually washed with the green or the purple but just sniffed the boxes in the supermarket. Its a strange site me going around the detergent idea sniffing all the boxes.

Im afraid im going to be really thick and ask what LCB means as i have no idea.

Ive never really used laundry additives.I used to use ACE bleach in my Admiral top loader but never really new if it did anything.I did buy a few months back a cheap version of the vanish oxi action powder. Never really new if that did much either.

Im a person who loves my clothes to smell a lot of conditioner or powder (My partner moans sometimes he goes to school smelling like the detergent isle).To me if it smells strong it means its really fresh and clean.I guess thats in my head but if my clothes etc smell nice then it makes me feel better. Im yet to find a powder/conditioner which really keeps its smell after line drying but Bold is pretty good though.

Im heading towards Ariel colour for my darks as I have a thing about Ariel. Persil never seems to enter my head for some reason although its a great product.

Mark

Ps would love to chat on msn msg.Its always great to speak to likeminded people.Maybe you can add me to you as I dont know your hotmail address.Mine is on my profile. You dont have to if you dont want to.


Post# 150244 , Reply# 42   8/24/2006 at 05:57 (6,454 days old) by nickuk (chelmsford UK)        
Hi Mark

Of course you can add me to msn - anyone here can - wilsongeez@hotmail.com BUT I'm hardly ever on it. I have to share this computer with my wife, and we only get to use it a little at midday when not working, and then an hour or so in the evening before bed - the reason, a toddler named Luke.

So when I go on the computer it's with a list of jobs to do as opposed to time to chat. But if I see you online it would be good to talk.

Yes - I think it's ok to put Ariel and Persil side by side.

LCB is liquid chlorine bleach and it's what many (most?) Americans use in TL machines in white washes for stain removal. Short wash times and the style of agitation render LCB necessary with heavily soiled whites. But if you use it with a powder containing oxybleach (all `green' and `blue' powder or tabs in the UK) the one bleach cancels the other out. If you use it with optic brighteners you get yellowing. So you have to use it with a `purple' colour detergent. When Luke was a baby the bibs were my biggest laundry challenge ever. No powder, no temperature, would remove those staisn and all our friends baby bibs were gross even when `washed'. Mine of course were spotless and glowing white and have been kept in the loft for any future babys. Solution? Persil colour powder, 60 degree wash, add LCB through the drawer washed down with plenty of water about 20 mins after the machine starts. Same principle as in the US - the clothes should agitate with the water and detergent a few mins before you add the bleach. This gives time for the enzymes to loosen stains first as LCB also kills enzymes.

When buying LCB in the UK, you need `thin' bleach not thick stuff surfactants as it foams too much. Thin bleach doesn't foam at all. I use Tesco value, there isn't really much thin bleach around these days. Don't use Domestos / Parazone, `toilet' type bleach. You need to be really careful with the dosage - between abot 50ml and 100ml of the value stuff is what I reckoned was a good dose. Too much can just trash clothes - it busts the fibres.

Oxygen bleach could be added to light coloured washes in the form of the pink tub of Vanish powder which is just oxi bleach, or in the white tub of `crystal whites' which also has mega quantities of brightener.

But this is just one way of doing it, you could of course just use a green powder like Ariel for everything (contains oxi bleach and brightener) and you may well be perfectly happy with the wash. I don't know if your maachine has a soak action, but you can always manually shut the machine off for half an hour / a couple of hours, whetever, and let the stuff have a good soaking which would help if you didn't use LCB. No internal heater though means the clothes are then washed in cooled down water so take that into account when deciding a wash temperature.

Fabric softener - Lenor lasts on the clothes way longer than the Comfort scent, and the longest lasting one IME is the green one with Febreze. If you're not allergic this is a possibility, especially if it's going in the first rinse, because also the second rinse would wash out some of the Lenor greasiness. I think the fragrance and the softness would remain well though.

Hope this is of some interest

Nick


Post# 150292 , Reply# 43   8/24/2006 at 11:24 (6,454 days old) by hoover3060 ()        

Oh blimey how confusing it all is!!!

I think I will stick to my favourite......Ariel bio powder/tabs and have Ariel Colour for my coloureds. With Comfort mainly and the occasional lenor thrown in! Plus I might stretch to buy some oxi powder to use once in a while...I dunno then again I like a change now and again so who knows!!! There are so many different choices now..what is a girl to do?????


Mark



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