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Frigidaire Patent - Combo Madness! |
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Post# 51435   12/20/2004 at 07:49 (7,063 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)   |   | |
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Post# 51436 , Reply# 1   12/20/2004 at 07:53 (7,063 days old) by maytagbear (N.E. Ohio)   |   | |
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any more complex? Vertical during the wash phase, almost, but not quite horizontal during the drying. It could have been a total servicing nightmare, more so than most. Lawrence/Maytagbear |
Post# 51450 , Reply# 4   12/20/2004 at 13:53 (7,063 days old) by partscounterman (Cortez, Colorado)   |   | |
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Wouldn't the clothes end up getting wrapped around the agitator in the drying mode? This would end up being one huge machine! |
Post# 51452 , Reply# 6   12/20/2004 at 16:26 (7,063 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)   |   | |
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Personally I don't think this design is very complicated, the mechanism to tilt the tub is unusual, but very simple consisting of a motor, rack and switch. The Whirlpool/Kenmore Combo of the 1960's and 1970's had a more complicated system overall than this by far. I bet it would have been lighter weight than some of the other Monsters that were produced. Comparing this to some of the other market combos, the interior of this machine looks rather roomy and might be relatively easy to service, although with that said, Frigidaire was never known for their ease of service. The Agitator is definitely an up and down pulsator style utilizing a Unimatic direct drive style transmission. I have to guess that Frigidaire was serious about this design but decided to wait and see what kind of market share the combinations would command. They did something similar with their dishwasher, waiting until 1955 to introduce their first model. I can't imagine GM would take the time and expense to go through the patents process unless they were serious about the possibility of building something similar. They were not the only company to patent a tilting tub combo, others followed later with slightly different designs. I believe there is a very basic flaw in this design in that the clothes would be stuck to the side of the wash tub and would have a hard time peeling off and starting to tumble. Many types of fabrics would just go round and round in the dry cycle, stuck to the side of the tub and never dry. Also with the agitator in the way, it would make less room for tumbling and might leave the clothes more wrinkled that out of a convention style horizontal access drum. |
Post# 51455 , Reply# 7   12/20/2004 at 17:34 (7,063 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)   |   | |
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I think the tilt mechanism is no more complex than your BMW rack & pinion steering and as far as complex goes nothing was ever as complex as my totally dead Kenmore Combo which I might add John LeFever and I have tried to revive for the last 15 years! Now thats complex! I think pasting of the clothes on the tub would be a problem that GM had not addressed in this machine at 1140 RPM's you would end up with totally flat hot clothes! YAY BABY JET |
Post# 51459 , Reply# 8   12/20/2004 at 18:31 (7,063 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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I have to admit as my fascination with the combos next door increased, as well as my hots for the WCI65, I did come up with a Frigidaire combo. At the age of 10 or 11, I just couldn't follow through with it all. But I did have it completely horizonal, with the jetcone pulsating away to & from the door window. And it was a solid tub, but was able to recirculate water through the fill flume after it filled with water. It didn't tumble until tub was outer tub had its water. Yup the 1010 spin speed and and "overflow" was the spray rinse b4 the first spin LOL. It also sprayed during the first spin. Had two rinses. Now, I jjust couldn't work through the thought of that whole large doughnut created by the spins and how the clothes got to tumbling during the dry process--which was not a condenser dryer. Once I did think about the tub shaking to losten the stuff from the sides.
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Post# 51505 , Reply# 9   12/21/2004 at 08:16 (7,062 days old) by peteski50 (New York)   |   | |
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I assume the patent of today is what this whole conversation is about. This looks like a real interesting design. From what I am viewing their seems to be something on the door. I would hope it wouldnt stop this from being viewed. Even though this wasen't put into prodution does anyone know if any was actually produced? I also would assume with a real fast spin if like the other frigidairs that spun at 1040 rpm would realy aid in fast drying. After all what other combo at that time had a real fast spin. Also of course a 220 volt makes a difference. Peter |
Post# 51568 , Reply# 11   12/22/2004 at 07:50 (7,061 days old) by westytoploader ()   |   | |
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Finally a Frigidaire FL combo! Does this spin at 1140 RPM like the last two? |
Post# 51576 , Reply# 12   12/22/2004 at 08:55 (7,061 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)   |   | |
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This machine is about as middle ground as you can get between top load and front load. And as Chris said it’s the closest thing to a solid basket front loader I have ever seen! The outer tub is the cabinet, just like in their early top load machines and this allows the rotating wash cylinder to be larger without having to surround it with a second outer tub. Using this design they keep water in the cylinder by recalculating the water faster than it can escape through the one row of holes in the center of the drum. Quite a fascinating design and I think it could have worked rather well. I also love how the glass lid opens up and back, out of the way, just like a top loader. The last Frigidaire combo comes tomorrow. |
Post# 51579 , Reply# 13   12/22/2004 at 09:13 (7,061 days old) by pulsator-power (connecticut)   |   | |
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I can see this one being produced too! It's not too complicated either, with no swinging drums! GM had a hit with their Unimatic and the whole top load phenomenon had caught on by the mid-50's, so why produce this? Jerry |
Post# 51639 , Reply# 14   12/23/2004 at 09:21 (7,060 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)   |   | |
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Today's Combo is our final installment in Frigidaire Combo week. Its a top loader with a up and down pulsator for wash, high speed spin for extract but here again the drying system is what is so very unusual. For dry, the mechanism locks the tub to the agitator shaft and bounces the tub straight up and down to move and bounce the clothes around during dry. I want one!
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Post# 51647 , Reply# 15   12/23/2004 at 13:54 (7,060 days old) by pulsator-power (connecticut)   |   | |
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I want one too! The wrinkles though.... Have a Merry Christmas everyone Jerry |
Post# 51649 , Reply# 16   12/23/2004 at 14:04 (7,060 days old) by peteski50 (New York)   |   | |
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Post# 51715 , Reply# 18   12/24/2004 at 14:19 (7,059 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)   |   | |
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