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Post# 161429   10/19/2006 at 23:01 (6,370 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Post# 161447 , Reply# 1   10/20/2006 at 04:06 (6,369 days old) by sudsman ()   |   | |
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will wait til last hour to finish |
Post# 161494 , Reply# 3   10/20/2006 at 10:10 (6,369 days old) by peterh770 (Marietta, GA)   |   | |
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This one is a bit different than mine, in that I can see that the "gray line" indicator for which cycles can use the Rapid Wash option goes all the way up to the highest Cotton temp. On mine, it only goes to the 140 setting. I bet that means that the highest temp on this machine is 190, whereas on mine is it 170 (or so the dial says. I secret think that mine does go up to 190 but whoever did the temp translation got the numbers wrong). Tom (or anyone else who might know), what are the spin speeds between rinses? Mine spins after the 1st, 2nd and 3rd, and I guess that it gets up to 800 rpm's. I hate the little "tease" spin after the wash, but it is better than nothing. |
Post# 161538 , Reply# 5   10/20/2006 at 13:27 (6,369 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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Post# 161549 , Reply# 6   10/20/2006 at 14:33 (6,369 days old) by peterh770 (Marietta, GA)   |   | |
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Thanks for the info... I have found that I can use the Rapid Wash button on all cycles, even tho' it is not indicated in gray on the cycle selector. For Cotton temps up to 120, the Rapid Wash is 32 mins. For 140, it is 37 minutes. I don't remember the times on the hotter cycles as I really don't use them. I have thought about adding a rinse to the Rapid Wash selection, but then, in my own little warped mind, it is no longer Rapid and basically overkill for me for the types of loads for which I use that selection (small to tiny loads). Is the purpose of the tease spin to get rid of suds? There are 5 of them after the Cotton wash, each getting progressively faster. I believe it also does tease spinning after the 1st rinse before it goes into the 900 rpm spin. Does it do this because it knows it couldn't possibly spin a load right after the wash and 1st rinse without suds locking? |
Post# 161595 , Reply# 7   10/20/2006 at 19:41 (6,369 days old) by tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)   |   | |
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Well, the 1986 manages to do a full spin right after wash and it goes up to 1000rpm. The 1918 is nowhere near 900 at least on the short wash, just the brief bursts of speed. |
Post# 161597 , Reply# 8   10/20/2006 at 20:06 (6,369 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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My unit is a W770 which came before the W1918, basically the mechanical controls replaced by computer; and on the cottons cycle there are no spins between first two rinses. Then, one short spin after second rinse, full short spin after third rinse, graduated spin (series of short 30sec spins) after fourth rinse, then final spin. On PP cycle there are three rinses, with no spins between, and only a final series of graduated spins. Delicates and Woolens have shorten graduated spins (2 and 1 bursts repectively). Think early Miele units were designed to avoid suds locking at all costs, hence no spins between early rinses on cottons. PP was designed for no wrinkling, thus again no spins at all between any of the rinses. It should be noted the W770 uses quite allot of water (which we LOVE) for rinsing. Large loads of heavy items like thick towels become so heavy with water on the cotton cycle after three deep rinses with limited spinning, one worries about the tub scraping bottom of floor. Rinsing is a process of dilution, and these older units seemed to do just that. Dilute much of the soap/detergent out of the load. On the up side, unit has never suds locked in the time I've had it. With heavy loads of towels and or too much sudsing the spin will slow down due to high foaming at the third spin, but by the time the final series of spins start, everything is fine. Without a computer brain, my unit deals with unbalaced loads by simply "breaking apart" large loads with the series of graudated spins before the final high speed spin. To date not one load has been unbalanced by the final spin, even when interim spins produced the odd "knock". While the 1918 and above series of machines are great, do love my mechanical timer unit because can create "custom" cycles, rather than rely on pre-set ones. Yesterday did a load of wool blankets using the "Woolens" cycle, which will stop at the final rinse and wait unless "Short Spin" is chosen. Let the cycle stop as indicated, then turned the machine off, set cycle program dial to "Cottons" and turned the machine back on. This allowed for final high speed spin instead of the short 30 second 900rpm spin of the "Woolens" cycle. Contrary to popular belief, woolens can and should be spun at fast rpms. It does not harm the fibers, and items emerge almost dry from the washer. My sweaters only require one hour or less of flat drying using this method, versus the hours it takes when they are almost dripping wet from most machine "Woolens" cycles. The wool blankets, which were very thick and heavy were put across lines to dry, and were done within a few hours. Sudsman Am rooting for you! Is this unit going to the "shop" or for home use? How are you going to get it down to Texas? You'll need the shipping braces, but if the seller does not have them, call Miele, they sell the kit. L. |
Post# 161652 , Reply# 9   10/21/2006 at 04:53 (6,368 days old) by askomiele (Belgium Ghent)   |   | |
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I don't know but I thought that the doors where wider on the mieles than normal before they started to introduce the 30cm wide doors. Am I correct? Srry but I don't know how much that is in inch. |
Post# 161674 , Reply# 10   10/21/2006 at 07:18 (6,368 days old) by sudsman ()   |   | |
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Thanks,, NO NO this one is for me... too good for the plant.. |
Post# 161792 , Reply# 13   10/21/2006 at 18:26 (6,368 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Yes, Jon quite agree with you that short "bursts" help keep larger loads from not only whacking the machine to death, but remove enough water that the longer spins can do their job without having the machine slow down because too much water is entering the pump too fast. On some BOL machines that go right to spining, if the load is heavy with water, the darn thing slows down so long that the spin cycle is pretty much over before returning to proper speed, if ever. This results in poor extraction and very wet laundry. Now a word about high speed spins: Spinning is nothing more than compression, and despite what most belive is actually gentler to textiles than say wringing or hanging dripping wet laundry to dry. For all but the most fragile and or delicate textiles, 1000-1200 rpms speeds even if for only a short period of time will cause no damage. Now then, for certian items, one actually prefers "drip drying" that results from no spinning between rinses and short burst spins as a final rinse. Fine percale linens and shirts for instance need much less ironing when spun this way, than after say full flow "Cottons" spin cycle on my Miele. From using my Hoover TT, am here to tell you, spin items too fast, too long and one had better plan on getting the iron out. One thing have noticed, using fabric softener can mitigate the creasing from high speed spinning. For sateen sheets, never used FS before as am not a fan of the stuff. However a bit of Ecover FS added to the final rinse, and the sheets were much less creased when put onto the line, and even dried smoother. Am told by my French Hand Laundry, that using FS before ironing is an old trick for smooth items like sateens and such that one does not starch. |
Post# 163026 , Reply# 14   10/26/2006 at 19:59 (6,363 days old) by the7 ()   |   | |
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Sudman, Did you win this bid? |
Post# 163097 , Reply# 15   10/27/2006 at 04:04 (6,362 days old) by sudsman ()   |   | |
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I did not get it |