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Thread Number: 8959
Diferences in the landry culture throw the countries! |
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Post# 167805 , Reply# 1 11/16/2006 at 10:55 (6,364 days old) by toggleswitch  (New York City, NY) |
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Soaking is an interesting tradition to a time before automatic washers. Remember most soaps and detergents can only hold soils / dirt in suspension for half-an-hour. Therfore, in my opinion it is best to do a quick prewash , drain and spin, THEN soak with fresh water, if soaking is "mandatory". Again it is important to drain and spin the clothing THEN do the main wash with fresh water after that! The purpose of this is to avoid redepositing the soil back on the clothes. My ex mother in law had a morbid fear of suds in the sink and therefore used a tiny amount of detergent in her washer, basically all the dirst from the armpits and the groin areas got re-distributed to ALL THE CLOTHES. They stunk, and were yellow and GREY .. YUCK! Redeposition of soils is not good. Best regards, Steve | ||
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Post# 167850 , Reply# 2 11/16/2006 at 14:12 (6,364 days old) by dadoes (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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| Post# 167984 , Reply# 4 11/16/2006 at 21:22 (6,363 days old) by oxydolfan1 () | ||
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Do you use chlorine bleach on your laundry in Brazil? Are Brazilian washday methods similar to those in Argentina? | ||
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Post# 168036 , Reply# 5 11/17/2006 at 01:35 (6,363 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains) |
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different formulas in different countries
I find soaking very effective, but the detergents I use are made for it. Since the US market - for reasons I still don't understand - has rejected enzymes so strongly, the detergents formulated for use there have to hit hard, hit early and - given ridiculously short times in which to do their work - don't need to retain the dirt in suspension very long. It is no gain to get your laundry done in less than one hour if the cost in wear and tear to the clothing, the damage to the environment by the detergents and the quantity of water used are enormous. My LG offers a one hour cycle (very short for Europe (Please, no flames from Uk on this again, ok? This was a general statement...). It makes up for time and enzymatic effect with much heavier agitation and more water in each rinse. I grew up at nearly 6,000FT. Without a clothes dryer, there would have been no way to get clothes dry in our little house in winter. Folks in the tropics are soooo lucky. Let your clothes soak in the suds while you soak in the sun... | ||
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Post# 168072 , Reply# 9 11/17/2006 at 05:59 (6,363 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains) |
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keine Notwendigkeit
You don't need to pre-soak much when the wash cycle alone runs for over an hour and the first part raises the temperature in an ideal curve to activate first the enzymes and then the oxygen bleach. You can get things clean in just about any temperature when you use the right detergent and additives - and take the right amount of time. I miss the days when I could hang my clothes in the attic to dry...in our building their is a mafia of old ladies who throw anyone's washing down on the floor who dares to leave it up two nanoseconds too long. It is just easier to put it in the dryer. When you come right down to it, tho' - the biggest difference is between the old-fashioned (and not in the good sense of our mechanical sweethearts) TL which uses far too much water and rubs too hard and the more modern FL which uses much less water, is easier on the clothes and cleans better. If only Frigidaire had not sold out to WW we'd still have the best of both worlds. Second biggest difference - we spin clothes out much faster here in Europe then in the US. The energy savings and lack of chemical residue is considerable. Wonder why that just never caught on? | ||
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Post# 168073 , Reply# 10 11/17/2006 at 06:24 (6,363 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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Mechanical Action
Hi Guys Its very interesting to see how variations of a washing theme come about through tradition, trade and company brands, I welcome using each and others techniques, It wouldnt be good for all to be the same... I realised here about Cold Water washing that there is a vast differene with the water temp, ours being 3/5d in winter and cold elswhere could be 20d+... Hi Keven, interesting point about the mechanical action of the spin...It was well known who had the first wave of Indesit machines in the UK, and the neighbour who used a twinny, (dingy whites & whitest whites, irrespective of better powders)Unilever did a test and it was shown to be because of the spinner in a twinny spinning out all the soapy suds from the clothes very fast etc, now that principle worked in those machines... What I dont agree with (my opinion only) is with a spin right after the wash in a modern front loader....in the small space required for the eco water consumption awards, you always tend to get a sudz lock, even when the wash looked like it had no bubbles at all...It could work only if the pump was timed to move all the water out before the next rinse AND that a spray jet of water was operating, spraying water in the outer drum and over the spinning drum, like the older 1960`s Bendix semi-auto machines. Mike | ||
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Post# 168116 , Reply# 11 11/17/2006 at 08:25 (6,363 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains) |
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good point Mike
Wash/spin or wash/rinse/spin is a tough call. My H-Axis Bauknechts (back when they were well made, not today's stuff) actually did spin out of the first wash and yes, the first spin was often very limited. My LG does a rinse first then tries a spin. If it builds up too slowly, it does another full rinse. This seems to be the best of both worlds - apply logic to the problem. Bendix had so many good ideas. Funny, how many "new" ideas are just recycled old wisdom. | ||
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Post# 168428 , Reply# 17 11/18/2006 at 10:25 (6,362 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY) |
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AHA! YES!!! my ex-partner's granny has a house in PR. The washer is outside in a secure utilty room with a plastic tablecloth over it. I think hers has a hot and cold connection. In the laundromat however, all the Wascomat's (washers) were on a "Y" connection. NO HOT WATER. But in all fairness the water from the tap is no less in temperature than our "WARM" so it was fine. BTW I was shocked to see granny'd old 220v 20 gallon (80L) hot water heater replaced by a 110 volt one. When I questioned the electrician, who was there for another reason...uh the washer and HWH were now on the same circuit..HELLO?....he VERY arrogantly said the old one was 20amps and the new one is 20a. When I mentioned the WATTAGE (and therefore recovery and heating ability) had dropped significantly he stuck to his guns. Apparently he was working the old people and purposely creating more business for himself. YUCK! Washers are outdoors because they CAN be in tropical climates. | ||
| Post# 168729 , Reply# 22 11/20/2006 at 02:38 (6,360 days old) by mrx () | ||
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On the dysons - not a fan I am not at all a fan of Dyson. Unless things have changed in recent years, the versions I have used were extremely noisey. I'm sticking with my 1800W Miele! | ||
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