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Post# 167849   11/16/2006 at 14:11 (6,369 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth)        

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We all seem to express the positive points mostly about our Washing Machines but what do we hate about them.

There are only 2 gripes I have with my Hottie

The Door Release Button

This does not belong on what is essentially a re-vamped 95 series.
I long for the door handle on the Hotpoint Rob created a thread for on ebay.

The On OFF Button

Again this does not belong IMHO.
What I wouldnt pay to be able to Pull On and Push Off........

Nick





Post# 167853 , Reply# 1   11/16/2006 at 14:23 (6,369 days old) by glamwales ()        

Hotpoint 1500 here and I love it

Only fault , Loss of ink on control panel ... There again it never seems to last these days on any machines. Im thinking its because of some detergents ? Can anyone confirm


Post# 167854 , Reply# 2   11/16/2006 at 14:27 (6,369 days old) by pulsator (Saint Joseph, MI)        

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My dream machine is a Miele PW 6065 washer. The only things I hate about this machine are the price and the capacity. But the style and performance make up for it!

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Post# 167855 , Reply# 3   11/16/2006 at 14:28 (6,369 days old) by nickuk (chelmsford UK)        

The Zanussi we have has lost some of the writing and `grey speckle' bits - and I watched this come off on a J cloth with a Fairy and water solution while I was wiping gently. I do not consider this good enough. Zanussi redsigned the control panel for this machine shortly after, without the grey speckle bits on it, similar to the one Jon's Mum had. I believe the fascia on that was sound, but the motor wasn't too hot. Or was too hot. Or the motor wasn't its hot point. Or something.......



Post# 167856 , Reply# 4   11/16/2006 at 14:33 (6,369 days old) by nickuk (chelmsford UK)        

Oh, and what do I hate about the Zanussi?

The stupid balance / rebalance, then sometimes spins worse that if it had just sopan the first time 5 minutes ago and be half way through the rinse now - hell, there are 5 more loads lined up to get through before dawn!! >> Not with `Dawn', of course, that would be a bad idea. For UK residents - Dawn isn't an alternative Essex girl to Sophie, but a major US (P/G, I think) washing up liquid brand.

The on / off button sticks and is probably on the way out.

I wish I could do a `pre wash' with a `short wash'.

I would like a chlorine bleach dispenser.

Think that's it....

Nick


Post# 167857 , Reply# 5   11/16/2006 at 14:38 (6,369 days old) by lavamat_jon (UK)        

nick - I've actually always thought that true Hotpoint's, like Hoover's, should have door release buttons... all the Liberator models did
and only the top of the line models after that. Nothing better than popping the door open at a push of a button then turning a dial to programme whatever and pulling it out!

Only three minor little things niggle me about the Miele - firstly, the conditioner compartment is narrow which means if you wanna pour direct from a bottle it's quite difficult but never a problem for me as I always use a cap to measure - my general rule for dosing conditioner is always half a cap. Secondly, if you open the door halfway through the cycle, it won't start off from the point where it paused but it assumes that more laundry ha sbeen added so will perform a cycle suited for a full load... which means sometimes a 1h15 cycle can be upped to 1h40. Thirdly, is that sometimes if the spin has slowed down before it has frinished it will just stand there pumping out for up to 10 secodns and won't let you in until the pump has turned off... but that doesn't happen often and in most cases there is only 1 or 2 seconds between the drum halting and the cycle ending.

With the AEG, asides from it's bearing trouble and it's refusal to perform a 40*C cottons wash, I have some niggles with that too. The dispenser has a tendency to get mouldy really quickly - have noticed that happens with AEG machines in particular. Most AEG machines I've seen have had awfully mouldy dispensers... Darren can probably agree with me there. SEcondly, sometimes the constant droning of the Jetsystem pump really can get on your tits. When it spins, the spring level foot means sometimes it likes to bounce up and down - again another generic niggle with all AEGs I've noticed. Plkus, it has no separate easy cares cycle but easy cares shares the cottons part fo the dial and the machine alters the cycle depending what fabric it senses is being washed. It's alright, but it always seems to think jeans are synthetic and cuts out interim spins except for a short 800 one before the end of the cycle. Final niggle is that when it starts filling, it will dump all the residual suds from the pump that have remained from the previous rinse all onto the freshly rinsed laundry again... never seems to rinse as thorough as the Miele does and I have to run 5 rinses if I want equal performance to only 3 in the Miele.

But in conclusion, I love both machines despite their faults and I wouldn't change them for the world.

Neil - some manufacturers put plexiglass over the top of control panels not only for easier cleaning but so you don't wipe the text off. My AEG and Miele both have that... I think some higher end Zanussi's do too. My nana has a Hotpoint WF340 similar to yours - and already some of the text on the control panel is wearing thin.

What do you think to the tumbling on the Hotpoint? My nana's is quite strange... it only does 5 second tumbles or so whike it heats and only tumbles properly once it's heated for the last 5 or 10 mins of the wash. But even on the short 5 second tumbles, the paddles really do pick up the load and tumble it well. If it wasn't for them being owned by the Indesit Company I would more than happily try one out! I noticed too that the spin cycle takes something like 20 mins versus 8 mins like I'm used too... does that ever bother you? Have to say I do love the spin noise especially when it boosts up to 1400rpm!

Jon


Post# 167859 , Reply# 6   11/16/2006 at 14:41 (6,369 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth)        
Um

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Spending that money on a Miele does not put me off, but then im useless with money anyway so I guess thats why.

Yeah the graphics seem to be an issue these days.
On the Hotpoint WF000 similar to your washer dryer Neil in the house Sarah and myself rented for a while , my weekly kitchen hygiene regime (of which is described below) took some of the letters off the prog guide on the drawer.

For the brief 3 months I actually had a modern Zanussi its daily wipedown with Cif Oxigel Solution never brought anything off and weekly when I cleaned the kitchen door fronts (of which is one of my obsessive things) I used to go round the whole kitchen unit set up, fridge-freezer, cooker, dishwasher, dryer, and backdoor which was UPVC spraying Domestos Bleach Spray.

Didnt damage a thing.

And I also like a good ol rough Kitchen Dishcloth and to buff with a clean tea towel.

Nick


Post# 167861 , Reply# 7   11/16/2006 at 14:42 (6,369 days old) by lavamat_jon (UK)        

Nick(UK) this time...

Forgot abotu the balance sensor... my AEG can be like that too and will sometimes take 5 minutes to distribute just for a burst, then end up bouncing about like crazy. It's actually jumped out Hotpoint style on me one or two times aswell...

I think they have updated the balance sensors though on Zanussi's. The balancing was very similar to a Miele on mum's - basically a 10 second distribution, quick check to see if it's balanced and then straight up. If it was unbalanced, it would just stop, distribute for 10 seconds again and so on. Plus, again similra to Meile machines, it didn't really care about balancing for the bursts just because a 2 second spin isn't really worth too much arsing about balancing for!

It's a shame about that Zanussi, it was good. Though another slight niggle I had with it was that it would sometimes (i.e. 1 in 25) leave clothes soapy Bosch style, but was nowhere near as bad as the Bosch was for rinsing.

But as with everything in life, every appliance has it's pros and cons.

Jon


Post# 167863 , Reply# 8   11/16/2006 at 14:44 (6,369 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth)        

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"droning of the Jetsystem pump really can get on your tits.

Jon speak for yourself but I lost my tits along with the weight from my stomach :-)

LOL

Nick


Post# 167864 , Reply# 9   11/16/2006 at 14:45 (6,369 days old) by lavamat_jon (UK)        

Quiet you, otherwise the drain hose and bottle of Bold will be going your way!

Post# 167865 , Reply# 10   11/16/2006 at 14:49 (6,369 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth)        
Kinky Jon, never had you down for some Asphyxiation!

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Well anyway Jon I do believe door release buttons are nice on a Liberator but not on a 95 series.

just my opinion based on pining for what I grew up with

Nick


Post# 167866 , Reply# 11   11/16/2006 at 15:01 (6,369 days old) by lavamat_jon (UK)        

True... And nothing beats the door handle on the edge of the door!

One thing that always used to tease me abotu those hotpoints, though, was that on the lower end models they'd have squares marked out on the control panels where there should be buttons!! Cos our dryer was only basic we had low heat and full heat, but the one above also had the 2 buzzer buttons, and the door release button in the corner. Whereas ours didn't but those blocks just sat there teasing me! Lol.

Jon


Post# 167867 , Reply# 12   11/16/2006 at 15:03 (6,369 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth)        

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Thats the door handle im on about.

Not the efforty one they put with the circle in the midlle of the rectangle. Child lock or whatever it was.

Nick


Post# 167868 , Reply# 13   11/16/2006 at 15:05 (6,369 days old) by lavamat_jon (UK)        

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. In that case you're excused :-).

Talking of door release, tis a shame only a select few manufacturers have it nowadays. Off top of my head, only Miele (obviously), top-end Beko, and Gorenje machines here have door release buttons on the panel now. Handles are just so... boring I guess!

Jon


Post# 167869 , Reply# 14   11/16/2006 at 15:06 (6,369 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom)        

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oh contray my friend! the 9524 with spin slider was very much complimented with a door release!:D Buuuut my 9534 looked the part with the door catch:D i'd love 2 find me a spin slider 95 series used 2 love changin the spins up and down! lol!!

Well i guess you could say the AEG is my daily driver but i try to use my hoover and servis as often as i can too

rite i'll start with the aeg as that can bug me the most

My big issue with this machine...Standardly it uses hardly any water but spins at 1200rpm between the rinses....which i like.

So you program rinse + in and it does more rinses with loads more water...but tell me where the sense is in lowering the intermittent spins to 400rpm?! Surely it would make sense to retain the 1200rpm for better extraction?! I think thats the company trying to cut cost at the thought of burnt out motors n such...

I too like jon hate it when the jet dumps soapy water back onto the freshly rinsed clothes..i'm just like "what was the point in that!!!!"

I also get annoyed with the "balancing act" as my 2 other machines have no idea what a balance sensor means. Though its the best balance sensor i've had on a machine it still irritates me how it can be fussy about a not to uneven load and then spin a towel load where most of the towels are on one side of the drum!

Right now onto the logic. I love this machine to bits one thing that annoys me how it will distribute the load while it drains during the rinses and as the timer advances, it stops and redistributes the load...when it could've been perfectly balanced it could then spin completely out of balance! That bugs me!

Now onto the quartz; I would prefer it if it span longer in the intermitten spins as it spins right up to 1000 and then slows down immediately....and when its on a towel load it really struggles to extract the water as the spin care drum has no holes except slits around the front and back of the drum so it can make that sloshing noise while it spins and as it seems to disperse theres not to much time left of the spin!

thats about it i think!

Darren


Post# 167870 , Reply# 15   11/16/2006 at 15:11 (6,369 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth)        
necks em back ....

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I get emotional when ive had a drink and all this talk of real Hotpoints may release the tears.....LOL

That glass is out again you may notice..... that one where 2 glasses puts me under the table for some reason, only ever with that glass hmmmm LOL

Nick


Post# 167872 , Reply# 16   11/16/2006 at 15:18 (6,369 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth)        

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Darren cant say I noticed that with the logic at High School.

Yeah a good full spin on modern machines between the low rinses are what I would want.

Im very greatful that the Hottie also does not know what a balancing act is, only on Tuesday did my hooded sweater knock it OOB, the machine jumped forward at me and me being me jumped up from in front of it and only when I dared go near it did I switch it off....

It can be scary at times sat in front of the bugger


Post# 167876 , Reply# 17   11/16/2006 at 15:29 (6,369 days old) by lavamat_jon (UK)        

Yep... many a laundry day when I would run out the kitchen when the Creda would jump out 3 foot into the kitchen when spinning towels!

Jon


Post# 167879 , Reply# 18   11/16/2006 at 15:33 (6,369 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom)        

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lol i'll never forget bein sat infront of my 9534 n it jumped out n i was sat virtually infront of it after the inital fright i dived for the pull on push off dial lol n then quivered in the corner for abit lol

Post# 167880 , Reply# 19   11/16/2006 at 15:37 (6,369 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth)        

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Darren my feelings exactly. the motor hit the worktop so hard first it was the initial noise that got me, milliseconds later the entire machine just came for me.

maybe i should confess though... it was my fault. I just couldnt wait for the 2 crappy spins before the final shoot up to the top as I was on my way out and wanted the stuff in the dryer asap. So I last notched it on the spin :-(



Post# 167881 , Reply# 20   11/16/2006 at 15:38 (6,369 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom)        

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lol cardinal sin. i did that too. with water in the drum before aswell lol ahhhhhhh was all u heard coming from me for a few minutes!

Post# 167884 , Reply# 21   11/16/2006 at 15:42 (6,369 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth)        

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I also do it with a tub o water LOL.

even better with the wash water and a top up fill on super rinse to make it higher. Then set it to the last notch and you get Powerstream!
and suds coming out the drawer too...... as I did the other week.

2 bath towels later and the kitchen floor was immaculate





Post# 167888 , Reply# 22   11/16/2006 at 15:48 (6,369 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom)        

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lol multipurpose hotpoint, clean your clothes and your floor:D Only available at selected outlets:p

Post# 167889 , Reply# 23   11/16/2006 at 15:51 (6,369 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth)        

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I dread to think what it would have been like if I had used Persil TT powder.

but then am i that daft to try?

dont answer


Post# 167890 , Reply# 24   11/16/2006 at 15:52 (6,369 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth)        

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forget the ;-) after dont answer LOL

Post# 167895 , Reply# 25   11/16/2006 at 16:12 (6,369 days old) by peterh770 (Marietta, GA)        

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Miele 1918

I dislike that I don't have much of a choice between a 1:47 cotton cycle and a 32 minute cotton "rapid wash" cycle. I wish there was something in between, like a cotton cycle with 30 minutes of washing and 3 rinses. Same with the Perm Press and the Delicate cycles.

I also don't like that "fine rinse" setting. Instead, I rapid program advance the cotton cycle and hit or miss whether I get 1 or 2 vigorous rinses at the end.

If rapid advnacing the program was more exact, I could be happier. I want it to be "automatic" -- set it and let it run like it is supposed to, but just not take so much time or need so much attention to do what I want.

As for the dryer, I think it should be quicker. If a load of cottons spins out at 1200 or 1600 rpms, it should be dry in 20-30 minutes.


Post# 167900 , Reply# 26   11/16/2006 at 16:27 (6,369 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
MaytAsko

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Had to think hard about this, been really pleased with these:

Would love an "Advance To Next Phase" button, i.e washing now advance to rinse etc:

Dryer would need to be vented and quieter

Mike


Post# 167908 , Reply# 27   11/16/2006 at 16:43 (6,369 days old) by dadoes (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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F&P IWL12 washer --

Softener dispenser cup somewhat small. A timed dispenser released by a flush of the rinse fill would be better, considering that a few specialized cycles (such as Comforters) don't have a post-wash spin.

Lack of timed LCB dispenser.

Limit of five water levels (although that isn't too bad). True variable or more choices would be nice.

Provision to set a specific wash time instead of soil levels that vary time per the fabric sensing process.

Some sort of baffle around the tub top to prevent splash-over at high water level with the more intense agitation speeds.

Choice for warm rinse (which I'd rarely use anyway).



DEGX1 dryer --

Louder end-of-cycle signal, but only because there's a mid-cycle signal when damp dryness level is reached and it's easy to miss.


Post# 167922 , Reply# 28   11/16/2006 at 17:20 (6,369 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        
Laundry for Palm?

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How about a USB connection on the panel to hook up your Palm PDA and a relatively simple program to choose every option - wash time, number of rinses, temperatures, tumble/agitation & spin speeds and length of spins. Total control!

Post# 167951 , Reply# 29   11/16/2006 at 19:04 (6,369 days old) by carlstock ()        

Right! I am going to have to intervene here – Jon and Nick are fighting!

nickuk, lock the doors – the children (Jon and Nick) are playing up! ;-)

As for irritations with my Miele Premier 520, the issues Jon raised regarding the memory – that is, turning the machine off means that it ‘forgets’ how heavy the load is and so washes as if there was a full load inside. Very, very silly.

Apart from that, lovely machine. :-) Not that quiet actually, but it’s quiet(ish)------ *CHOKE* Can’t breathe again! *Looks up* Help! I’m being strangled by Jon this time! He’s strangling me with the handle on his big box of Persil!!!


Post# 167963 , Reply# 30   11/16/2006 at 20:29 (6,369 days old) by mattywashboy (Perth, Western Australia)        
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I have a fewpet hates with this machine. First off all the intermittant spins are pathetic, two short bursts is all we get. ON top of this, when the second burst reaches full speed (about 600rpm) the pump turns off and the drum coasts to a stop, which means the bulk of the water spun out doesnot get pumped out, it just falls back and gets added to the next rinse water, a bit daft in my view. Also the detergent compartment, i think there is a fault becuase i have discovered it does not fill through the main wash compartment at all,only through prewash and softner. It doesn't bother me but my boyfriend kyle took the initiative to do a wash this morning and put powder in the main compartment and it was still there when the cycle was over.This was a white load, meaning lots of dirty socks and coffee stained work shirts. Other than that the machine is okay, washes well, heats fast and the final spin is good, i do admit i am starting to pine for 1000rpms of power, maybe more *looks wistfully out of window*.
Check the vids below to see if you can spot the faults i am on about.
Matt


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Post# 167972 , Reply# 31   11/16/2006 at 20:56 (6,369 days old) by oxydolfan1 ()        

I have a Whirlpool TL, 1988, 5500XSWO, and there's not much to dislike...it's a great, basic machine.

And I'd never speak ill of my machine, BUT IF I DID:

The control panel is a high-gloss, black, painted, ribbed strip of metal with shiny black knobs, trimmed with faux chrome. The timer has a deep recess beneath the main knob and a faux chrome ring surrounding the dial, and this ALL collects every bit of possible dust, lint, water marks, etc. and requires CONSTANT cleaning, or it looks totally neglected. The recess under the dial gets a little skeevy as well over time, and has to be scrubbed out with an old toothbrush reserved for this purpose.

It's not a functional problem, but quite the annoyance, when you're trying to maintain the piece for historical reasons and sentimentality.

A few years later, white-on-white came into vogue here in the States, and it was an improvement, aesthetically at any rate, and in terms of caring for the control panel, at any rate.


Post# 167980 , Reply# 32   11/16/2006 at 21:11 (6,369 days old) by zipdang (Portland, OR)        
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I sometimes get terribly impatient with its infernal, seemingly endless balancing act before launching into a high speed spin. The countdown display might say there are 6 minutes remaining in the cycle, but occasionally it can be more like 15 minutes. Just spin already! Ugh.

My only other gripe is that if you pull the dispenser drawer out while the door is open at 90-degrees or more, the bottom of the dispenser drawer rubs against the top of the door and could scratch the plastic trim. A little bit of extra clearance would be nice.

Regardless, it's still my favorite of all the machines I've had, and the matching dryer is fantastic.


Post# 168039 , Reply# 33   11/17/2006 at 01:48 (6,369 days old) by agiflow ()        

I have one major gripe with my Kenmore 90 series is that the bleach dispencer is pathetically small and if not very careful pouring...bleach all over the place.

Oh yeah and the paint on the front edge in the seam is starting to peel and has started to rust...will take care of that over this next week.

All in all i am happy with this washer...heck and why not,..it's an excellent cleaner.


Post# 168047 , Reply# 34   11/17/2006 at 03:42 (6,369 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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My daily drivers are my Miele frontloader and my AEG frontloader.

The only thing I miss on my Miele is a soak cycle. Older Mieles used to have a separate prewash cycle that could be used as a soak cycle and the more modern ones have a soak option. My model (W715) is just between that I guess.

The AEG (Öko Lavamat 6450) also has the problem with the mold in the detergent dispenser. I have to clean it out with chlorine bleach on a regular basis. I also don't like the fact that you can't raise the water level in the rinses. The third annoyance with this machine is the time it takes to get into spin when it's not fully loaded.

Louis


Post# 168060 , Reply# 35   11/17/2006 at 04:22 (6,369 days old) by nickuk (chelmsford UK)        

My mother in law's Bosch has a terrible problem with black mould building up in the dispenser, do you think it's when the dispenser is totally airtight, or something? The Hoover Logic which sat in the same spot in the kitchen until 3 years ago never got mould.....

Post# 168063 , Reply# 36   11/17/2006 at 04:31 (6,369 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth)        

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The Mold issue was never a problem in any machine I ever used until the house I rented for a while with the Hotpoint WF000.

This machine constantly had mold in the prewash section, I think because the mainwash section had powder flowing through it once a day at least. maybe cleaning it.

The softener was not too bad, I wonder if adding "Microban" detergent dispenser drawers would alleviate the problem.

I believe the chopping boards with it are very good although im a die hard wooden board user for the sake of my knives. Educated Chef and all that.

And AEG produce F/F with Bacteria Guard or whatever in the plastic coating inside. My John Lewis F/F made by AEG had that.

Not that these Microban products are a substitute for a cleaning regime anyway it may just help.

Nick


Post# 168068 , Reply# 37   11/17/2006 at 04:56 (6,369 days old) by fredriksam (Sweden)        

machines i have and the bad things about them

Siemens:
1 it failed after 2-3 years of use and i had to find parts to it
2 the balancing act that takes long time and when really unbalanced it does spin and bangs and moves forward.
3 Sometimes it smells sour in the drum, even if i wash at 95 celsius sometimes.

Hoover Keymatic 2234:
Gets stuck after first rinse in all programs. Have to get the card halfway out to countiniue. Of course the machine is pushing over 40 years but still.
Also the clothes gets to tangled up when using the pulsator function.

My dishwasher: Cylinda, Sounds really really strange. Seems to get too hot also.

About another thing. RE: Aeg moldy in dispenser. I have seen that on many Aeg machines that i have recycled. The question is why it gets that way in these machines. I have no idea, but it is a problem for sure.


Post# 168070 , Reply# 38   11/17/2006 at 05:42 (6,368 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Mold!!!

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My theory is that the mold is due to more natural ingredients and certain new polymers being used in fabric conditioners and such...

Also could be that hot fill used to wash away spores etc, so mold was less likely to grow...

Certainly older UK machines like Hoover , Hotpoint & Servis had quite smooth powder dispensers, unlike say the new AEG, LUX & Zanussi models which I find a complete nightmare to clean...(its a standing joke the first thing I do after doing my sisters dishes is to pull the powder draw out and dunk it in a bowl of hot bleachy water...LOL)


Frederick, sorry to hear you are still having probs with the 3224 Keymatic, when you said you switched the motor last year did you switch the programmer you said you found as well?? If you did its certainly a mismatch of programmer and wiring harness loom, which type of programmer unit was it??

Mike


Post# 168085 , Reply# 39   11/17/2006 at 06:52 (6,368 days old) by robm (Buxted)        
Where do I start

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I love washing machines but there are things that really ennoy me! However, I won't bore you all with them so I will pick out one of my pet hates which has also been mentioned.

Faffing distributions and spins aaarrrrh

My Miele has got it right I think, but most other machines can be a nightmare. Distributing for ages, a short burst here, a short burst there. A rest, a spin, it's endless. Even the older machines. My mums old 95 series hotpoint, used to spin a short spin at 500 then turn endlessly until another short burst at 500. I can understand letting the water drain inbetween but how long does it take!

Some straightforward spins please. A quick pulse to get heavy water out and then a straightforward step up would be good for me.

That's my moan over LOL

Rob


Post# 168117 , Reply# 40   11/17/2006 at 08:25 (6,368 days old) by rinso (Meridian Idaho)        

HE3--Good machine overall, but:
Owner's manual is inadequate. It doesn't even explain what the function is of the rear dispenser compartment with that little insert thingy. Nor, does it tell you what happens in each of the cycles.

Not enough water for bulky items like pillows and comforters.

Balance process is extremely time-consumming. After what seems like an eternity of fliping the clothes back and forth, the load still must be perfectly balanced for the machine to ramp up to its highest spin speed, which often doesn't happen.

On Whitest Whites or Heavy Duty cycle, the tumble speed is a bit too slow. Instead of lifting the clothes and dropping them like my Frigemore, it just rolls them into a ball and slops them around.

Just wish appliance maker engineeers would get our input when designing new machines. :o)



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