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Thread Number: 9101
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Post# 169704 11/25/2006 at 16:54 (6,359 days old) by parunner58  (Davenport, FL) |
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Post# 169705 , Reply# 1 11/25/2006 at 16:55 (6,359 days old) by parunner58 (Davenport, FL) |
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Post# 169717 , Reply# 2 11/25/2006 at 18:43 (6,359 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie) |
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| Post# 169722 , Reply# 3 11/25/2006 at 19:25 (6,359 days old) by nmaineman36 () | ||
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Oh that is a challenge for any dishwasher to handle. Now what detergent are you using? I think that the Cascade w/Dawn pac would clean that or even Electrosol Tabs. | ||
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Post# 169727 , Reply# 4 11/25/2006 at 20:27 (6,359 days old) by parunner58 (Davenport, FL) |
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Post# 169740 , Reply# 5 11/25/2006 at 21:46 (6,359 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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Post# 169772 , Reply# 6 11/26/2006 at 01:52 (6,359 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie) |
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| Post# 169782 , Reply# 7 11/26/2006 at 07:16 (6,358 days old) by maytagbear (N.E. Ohio) | ||
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Wow! That's amazing. I am seriously impressed. Lawrence/Maytagbear | ||
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Post# 169785 , Reply# 8 11/26/2006 at 08:24 (6,358 days old) by parunner58 (Davenport, FL) |
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Post# 169807 , Reply# 9 11/26/2006 at 09:19 (6,358 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY) |
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Post# 169809 , Reply# 10 11/26/2006 at 09:47 (6,358 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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Mike, I agree with you about puting some detergent on the door for the prewash for something that gunked. In teh manuals I as able to locate for teh model I believe I remember you have, it states in the text of Bosch DW Features, POwer Scrub Plus has a 125 degree heat prewash. I'd even try not running hot water before this aprticular cycle so the4 prwash is extended that much longer. I was impressed the rest just came right out. I know gansky used to put detergent on the door of his Asko when he had a erally dirty load of dishes. I bet some other do too here who have Bosch or other Euro-styled brands. I know I would. | ||
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Post# 169812 , Reply# 11 11/26/2006 at 09:55 (6,358 days old) by re563 (Fort Worth, Texas) |
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I have the same bosch. The very first water change is a soil purge on the PowerScrub and Regular wash cycle. So you might have to open the door to get a prewash, rather than a prerinse. I love mine, and now that I have my house on the market, I don't want to let it go. Will just have to buy a new one for the new house, providing it doesn't alreay have a great machine in there.
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Post# 169816 , Reply# 12 11/26/2006 at 10:08 (6,358 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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| Post# 169833 , Reply# 13 11/26/2006 at 11:37 (6,358 days old) by maytagbear (N.E. Ohio) | ||
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Bob- Yes, a soil purge is where the sensor senses how dirty a particular load might be. Sensors have improved, but they're not infallible. Yet. It goes by water turbidity (small and microscopic particles suspended in the water.) Lawrence/Maytagbear | ||
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Post# 169856 , Reply# 14 11/26/2006 at 15:29 (6,358 days old) by logixx (Germany) |
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Soil sensing | ||
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Post# 169862 , Reply# 15 11/26/2006 at 16:40 (6,358 days old) by logixx (Germany) |
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More...
Mike, I'm AMAZED by the results! I love those BSH machines. Currently, we have a (dysfunctional) AEG dishwasher - but since Electrolux decided to close the German AEG/Electrolux factory and move everything to Poland, I'll never buy another of their products because: A) I don't wanna support a company that causes even more unemployment in GER (although that's hard to do these days, since many companies are moving or have moved to Poland, Italy, Spain, ...). BTW: don't mean to offend any members from Italy, Spain and so forth - I just prefer Made in Germany - even if it's more expensive. B) our Electrolux dryer broke down after only three years X-( Bottom-line: no more Electrolux for me! Okay - I'm feelin' better now ;D Sorry for taking this off-topic; let's get back to Bosch! We'll be replacing the AEG with a Siemens dishwasher because over the past few years, Bosch/Siemens DW's have always received top ratings in our German consumer magazine Stiftung Warentest ("foundation product test"). Last time they tested dishwashers, July 2006, a BSH machine even ranked higher than Miele. Basically, because Bosch's Intensive cycle used less water and energy (15 liters/1.38 kWh) than the Miele's (19 liters/1.69 kWh). Additionally, Miele demanded two detergent tabs to be used in the Intensive cycle - Bosch only one. Also, Bosch's soil sensor worked a little better (more accurately) than Miele's. So... long story short: I'm sooo looking forward to our new Siemens dishwasher - it's really feature-packed. ;D And since we're on the topic of extreme soiling, I'm gonna attach a pic of the DW test I just mentioned. First one shows "regular soiling" according to some EU norm for dishwasher cleanability tests (upper rack of an AEG dishwasher). Second picture shows the kind of soiling Stiftung Warentest uses to judge the effectiveness of the Intensive cycles. 
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Post# 169863 , Reply# 16 11/26/2006 at 16:46 (6,358 days old) by logixx (Germany) |
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and finally...
This will be our new dishwasher (we'll have the Siemens version of it). Click on "AquaSensor" to view Bosch's video of its soil sensig process. "VarioFlex-Korbsystem" is another interesting one. Take care, Alex CLICK HERE TO GO TO logixx's LINK | ||
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Post# 169877 , Reply# 17 11/26/2006 at 17:34 (6,358 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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siemens
Hi Mike Heavy test for the machine and what a fab job given the degree of soiling... I've had the Siemens Integrated version of this machine for 5 yrs and never fails me by its efficiency....I use the pots n pans intensive for all the range parts and cooker hood grease filters , and cleans superbly every time, I always place a little powder on the door every time, and on these machines all programmes except glassware have auto pre-wash... If you have a lot of glassware the extra glass racks are a must , enables you to wash long stemmed glasses on the base rack and tumblers short stems on top...with a few grains of powder and 35d glass wash, perfect results... Mike | ||
| Post# 170040 , Reply# 19 11/27/2006 at 13:36 (6,357 days old) by cbosch () | ||
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siemens I have a siemens integrated dishwasher is very good does at least one oad per day and never complains | ||
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Post# 170058 , Reply# 20 11/27/2006 at 15:46 (6,357 days old) by mrboilwash (Munich,Germany) |
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Post# 170074 , Reply# 22 11/27/2006 at 16:33 (6,357 days old) by mrboilwash (Munich,Germany) |
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Post# 170236 , Reply# 23 11/28/2006 at 09:14 (6,356 days old) by re563 (Fort Worth, Texas) |
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Post# 170512 , Reply# 24 11/29/2006 at 15:32 (6,355 days old) by chachp (North Little Rock, AR) |
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I love mine! | ||
| Post# 170602 , Reply# 25 11/29/2006 at 23:45 (6,355 days old) by maytagbear (N.E. Ohio) | ||
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Question for our members on BBC- (or anyone with the answer, but our UK members brought up my question). What do you mean by "integrated" dishwasher? To me, that implies "built-in," or "undercabinet," but I have a feeling it means something entirely different. A puzzled- Lawrence/Maytagbear | ||
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Post# 170603 , Reply# 26 11/29/2006 at 23:47 (6,355 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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Post# 170628 , Reply# 27 11/30/2006 at 04:53 (6,354 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Cascade Complete Vs Cascade "Shine Shield"
Have to say haven't noticed much difference in terms of cleaning ability between the two. Both contain enzymes and "shine shield", but the Cascade Complete costs more and one gets less per box. While shopping at the local K-Sears earlier this week, nabbed a large box of Cascade "shine shield" as it was nearly twice the size of Cascade Complete and about $1.25 cheaper than what one pays for a smaller box of the later locally. Lately Consumer's Reports has been giving high marks to store brand dishwasher detergents, like America's Choice, and Costco's brand. L. | ||
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Post# 170751 , Reply# 29 11/30/2006 at 12:57 (6,354 days old) by chachp (North Little Rock, AR) |
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Why hide the dishwasher..
I have always thought the same thing that they should be seen and not hidden. I guess I thought I was in the minority but it appears that is not so at least in this group. I love all y'all! That is my southern version of "all of you." Being a tranplanted northerner I get pretty excited when I can do that! | ||
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Post# 170762 , Reply# 31 11/30/2006 at 13:47 (6,354 days old) by dadoes (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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Post# 170772 , Reply# 32 11/30/2006 at 14:42 (6,354 days old) by logixx (Germany) |
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Ditto
I'm not into hiding dishwashers, either. We have a semi-integrated DW: yes, it does accept a custom door panel but the controls are still visible. If you got it - flaunt it! ;-) CLICK HERE TO GO TO logixx's LINK | ||
| Post# 170812 , Reply# 33 11/30/2006 at 15:46 (6,354 days old) by maytagbear (N.E. Ohio) | ||
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Please-- When I said "Who in their right mind wants to hide a dishwasher," I did not mean it as a criticisim, but as an amused puzzlement. If I ever get to design a kitchen, my dishwashers will be openly visible, as will every other appliance. Lawrence/Maytagbear | ||
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Post# 170822 , Reply# 35 11/30/2006 at 16:01 (6,354 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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Post# 170871 , Reply# 36 11/30/2006 at 19:12 (6,354 days old) by re563 (Fort Worth, Texas) |
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Well, I was like the rest of you about being able to see the controls, buttons, etc. However, when I first had seen the Bosch dishwasher that I currently have, It was in my Partner's brothers house. They had just redone their kitchen and she got the bosch. Stainless Steel front, fully intergrated. After being able to use it for a week, (she allowed me to take over the loading and unloading of the machine), I was sold. My mahcine does not have a count down indicator or progress lights. There are only 6 buttons on the top of the door. The On/Off button, then Top Rack Only, Power Scrub Plus, Regular Wash, Delicate/Econo, Rinse & Hold--that's it. I just love it. One button to push, Close the door,and WOOOOOOSSSHHHHHH----clean, sparkling dishes. | ||
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Post# 174314 , Reply# 37 12/10/2006 at 04:31 (6,344 days old) by chachp (North Little Rock, AR) |
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I don't put extra detergent in the door anymore.
I used to. I have always had KA dishwashers and always used to fill all three soap dishes. I'd fill the two that got closed and filled the third that was left exposed. So, naturally, when I got my first Bosch dishwasher I couldn't imagine it could clean with only one wash. But it does so I don't bother with the extra soap anymore. I'm on my third Bosch and I have been extremely happy with all three. You should see the Bobload I had yesterday :o)! I wish I would have taken a picture. | ||
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