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Daily or Party Cycles?
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Post# 171910   12/3/2006 at 20:40 (6,345 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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Another great estate sale find this weekend - I haven't had time to clean or test it, but I will do that this week when the mess of holiday decorating is over.

This was in a basement, where it had apparently been sitting for quite a few years. It needs a bath desperately, but it looks to be in cherry condition...

Perhaps I'll install this in my new kitchen when it's done?






Post# 171911 , Reply# 1   12/3/2006 at 20:41 (6,345 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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Look at the shiny porcelain - you can see your reflection!

Post# 171913 , Reply# 2   12/3/2006 at 20:43 (6,345 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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Rack envy!

The KD-16 series was made from April 1968 to May 1971.


Post# 171925 , Reply# 3   12/3/2006 at 21:08 (6,345 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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So, is this one of the KDS16 versoins with Heavy Soil or actually does a Soak & Scrub?

Post# 171926 , Reply# 4   12/3/2006 at 21:12 (6,345 days old) by brent-aucoin ()        
Blah! Blah! Blah!

Blah! Blah! Blah!
What are you wearing now?!!
Brent


Post# 171940 , Reply# 5   12/3/2006 at 21:40 (6,345 days old) by exploder321 ()        

Thats not very nice brent...

I love these dishwashers, esp this particular model.. I house sit for a lady off and on, and she has one of these... If i find the pic i will post.. This was the only thing i fixed and made work..I pulled the spray arm out and filter off and cleaned it out.. No wonder it didn't work: It had a small fork and kinfe and butter knife stuck in there, not to mention tons of glass, cleaned the spray arm as well... Cleaned it all out, ran some clorox through it and voila, it worked... She was very happy, but never uses it, as she can't cook (or deosn't cook)... I told her never to toss it, cause i would take it... Hope she remembers.. It cleans quite well..


Post# 171947 , Reply# 6   12/3/2006 at 21:53 (6,345 days old) by dalangdon (Seattle, WA)        

I had the built-in version of this in my old house. I hope it never goes wrong for the new owners, because it was SO built-in that they would have to demo the counter to get it out, LOL.

As far as cycles go, every day is party day!


Post# 171951 , Reply# 7   12/3/2006 at 22:00 (6,345 days old) by tlee618 ()        

Another beauty my friend, that machine looks mint. What fun too a "party" cycle. Terry

Post# 171965 , Reply# 8   12/3/2006 at 22:16 (6,345 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)        

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Man, those KA's just keep showing up at your doorstep! You are such a nice guy to let them say in the garage ;-)

Wow, now that is a clean dishwasher. Would you install the unit in the kitchen, or alow it to continue life as a portable?

Ben


Post# 171972 , Reply# 9   12/3/2006 at 22:28 (6,345 days old) by petek (Ontari ari ari O )        

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Oh it is nice, you can't bastardize that by building it in can you, would you? It would be much better served as a serving table in the dining room, loaded up, then whooshed into the kitchen for double dish cleaning duty.

Post# 171983 , Reply# 10   12/3/2006 at 22:47 (6,345 days old) by scott55405 ()        

Brent, w-t-f?

Anyway, very cool machine Greg! I remember them well. The party cycle only takes about 35 minutes start to finish and does a fine job on an average load. It would be a nice machine to leave portable and use as a 2nd machine when you have a lot of people in.

Bob, this appears to be a soak model. I see the little soak thing on the control panel. Even THAT cycle is not that long compared to machines today.


Post# 171996 , Reply# 11   12/3/2006 at 23:00 (6,345 days old) by dadoes (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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Brent was making a joke in regards to a post of Greg's in another thread.

I hadn't realized Soak dates back to the 16 series. Or does it go even further back than that?


Post# 171998 , Reply# 12   12/3/2006 at 23:01 (6,345 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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The Soak camwe about during the end of the 16 Sereis run

Post# 172000 , Reply# 13   12/3/2006 at 23:03 (6,345 days old) by exploder321 ()        

Ok... Did not know what brent was up to...

Keep coming back to gawk at the pictures


Post# 172009 , Reply# 14   12/3/2006 at 23:14 (6,345 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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Oooh nice find Greg, soon you will have each one of the KA series!

Post# 172030 , Reply# 15   12/4/2006 at 00:09 (6,345 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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Bob is right, this model is indeed a KDS-56A - with a soak cycle (12 min.)

Brent, I'm wearing sweats - it's cold! ;-)


Post# 172042 , Reply# 16   12/4/2006 at 00:59 (6,345 days old) by pturo (Syracuse, New York)        

How did a dishwasher, in fact, "soak"? I'll buy it for a washing machine, in fact I have one that does that. Is "soak" a pre-rinse?

Post# 172044 , Reply# 17   12/4/2006 at 01:03 (6,345 days old) by peteski50 (New York)        
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This is a real cool model. My sister had the KDS17 which was simular. Best Of Luck with getting it to run.
Peter


Post# 172063 , Reply# 18   12/4/2006 at 06:16 (6,345 days old) by christfr (st louis mo)        

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aww man here we go again.. lucky mr greg snags another cool toy ha ha..along with robert and that cool mixer..darn it.. as of late many of the estate sales i go to have really cool vintage stoves dishwashers and washer dryer sets but they are staying with the house.. and then im sure the new owners will scrap them so it never fails.. like i need more stuff..i could always just say mom it followed me home can i keep it ha ha..

Post# 172065 , Reply# 19   12/4/2006 at 06:52 (6,345 days old) by jasonl (Cookeville, TN)        
What exactly is Party Cycle?

Does it play disco music while it washes the dishes?

Awesome DW, Greg. Have fun!


Post# 172096 , Reply# 20   12/4/2006 at 09:26 (6,345 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        
Nice DW greg-y!

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Blah! Blah! Blah!
What are you wearing now?!!

If it was meant as a joke, as I surely think it was, I think it's smashingly funny!

Don't you love cross-pollenated threads?


Post# 172097 , Reply# 21   12/4/2006 at 09:30 (6,345 days old) by 48bencix (Sacramento CA)        
where is party cycle?

I noticed the Party on the key pad, on second glance.

Just love it.

BTW what happened to memeber party cycle? I enjoyed his funny posts.


Post# 172105 , Reply# 22   12/4/2006 at 09:44 (6,345 days old) by veg-o-matic (Baltimore, Hon!)        

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I often wonder what Greg is wearing.

Nice KA, too!

vwg


Post# 172114 , Reply# 23   12/4/2006 at 10:03 (6,345 days old) by andrewinorlando ()        

Unfortunately, our member, Party Cycle, is not with us any more......:(

He was a very funny guy.....


Post# 172116 , Reply# 24   12/4/2006 at 10:05 (6,345 days old) by hoover1060 ()        
Party cycle

Jason the party cycles are shortened versions of the full cycle, and also include the plate warmer as well. According the literature I have seen, party cycles are a light wash & rinse for stuff thats not really all that dirty, such as cocktail glasses, snack plates, ect....

I am by no means an expert, but I do love my KDS17A!!


Post# 172288 , Reply# 25   12/4/2006 at 19:53 (6,344 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Paty Cycles were light soil, plate warmer, and cancel drain. The light soil main wash was like 4 or 6 minutes. On the regular cycles, that main wash was about 10 or 12 minutes long. The other four were normal, heavy soil/soak, saniwash, and rinse & hold.

Post# 172291 , Reply# 26   12/4/2006 at 19:59 (6,344 days old) by westytoploader ()        

Congratulations Greg, cool machine! I have yet to see a Party Cycle run...will have to do it next year! You really seem to be bringing in those KitchenAids!

Post# 172328 , Reply# 27   12/4/2006 at 20:58 (6,344 days old) by brent-aucoin ()        

Oh My!
Did member Party Cycle Pass away?
Brent


Post# 172367 , Reply# 28   12/4/2006 at 22:24 (6,344 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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pturo--- The Soak & Scrub cycle was great. My first KA dishwasher (purchased about 1983 or so) had it. Before the regular cycle begins, the water heats and it starts to wash. Then it pauses while the water heats up again. Then it scrubs again. Can't remember how many times this occurs before the regular cycle begins. It did a great job on pots/pans, that's for sure!

Post# 172370 , Reply# 29   12/4/2006 at 22:40 (6,344 days old) by dadoes (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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On the KDI-17a, soak was during the normal Prewash phase which was two increments of fill, three of washing, then drain. Soak washed for one timer increment, then for the remaining two increments a delay relay took over which pulsed the timer motor and extended them to 13 minutes. There was a brief period of recirculation when drain started, being as the motor didn't reverse, until the water was out. Rest of the cycle was identical to Normal.

Post# 172416 , Reply# 30   12/5/2006 at 07:43 (6,344 days old) by hoover1060 ()        
KDS17A

I usually use the Sani-Cycle on my KA, and this past Saturday night I noticed something unusual. I'd cooked dinner for a really great guy that I've been seeing, and we were sitting at the kitchen table having coffee and the KA was running. In the sani-cycle there is a pause before the final rinse to heat the water to 180, and then WOOSH it comes back on for the final rinse. At the moment of the WOOSH, this steam cloud came out from the bottom of the door, kinda like a mushroom cloud...
Should it be doing that?
I'll have to try the soak cycle next use. I have used the "light soil" once or twice now for a fast wash of glasses when company's been over.

PS: Michael, the guy I cooked for has a KUDS22 in his kitchen!


Post# 172418 , Reply# 31   12/5/2006 at 07:52 (6,344 days old) by gadgetgary (Bristol,CT)        
Jeff

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Don't be too concerned about the WOOSH and the steam cloud at the bottom(LOL). I believe it is perfectly normal since mine does the same thing. I very rarely use the Sani Rinse feature.


Post# 172421 , Reply# 32   12/5/2006 at 07:54 (6,344 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Jeff, I've observed the same thing, very normal.

Post# 172434 , Reply# 33   12/5/2006 at 08:18 (6,344 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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Also a stream of steam when the blower first kicks on - the Maytag belt-drives do the same thing after every fill when the circulation starts - whoosh!

Post# 172446 , Reply# 34   12/5/2006 at 09:00 (6,344 days old) by hoover1060 ()        
WOOSH!

I love the WOOSH!

I still remember the first demo Fred Nelson gave of his KDS17, and the KD12 he has in his laundry room, he'd let them fill and start circulating, then stop the machine and say "Listen to the water when it starts" he'd then restart the machine, and the blast of water sound coming from inside just amazed me!

I'd noticed the steam cloud when the blower kicked in, but not during the sani-cycle. Its kinda cool!

Greg you and Fred N. were so right though, this is the best DW I have ever used! I'd never go back to the old Kenmore again thats for sure!


Post# 172457 , Reply# 35   12/5/2006 at 09:50 (6,344 days old) by gocartwasher ()        
WOW !!!

memories!!! .our dishwaher was just like that & when dad built the new home he took the wheels & cutting board top off of it to built it in to the cabnets,I to this day still have the cutting top & the casters of of it!!,built a fun board/moving dolly with the casters & a folding drawing table out of the top,and its REAL LAMINATED WOOD TO,you don`t see that now days!!!,& one more I have several recordings I made of it running through all the cycles,it was so relaxing listning to it wash,had rebuilt the pump in it back in 1980,my father bought it in 1970 when we moved to Indiana,remember hooking it up to the faucet & turning on the HOT water!!,out of all the dishwashers I`v worked on?scrapped the kitchenaid was the best made

Post# 172498 , Reply# 36   12/5/2006 at 12:16 (6,344 days old) by andrewinorlando ()        

Brent - yes, Party Cycle passed away early this year.

Post# 172551 , Reply# 37   12/5/2006 at 16:35 (6,343 days old) by brent-aucoin ()        

Andrew,
I had no idea. I guess I was not around when that was posted.
I did think his post were very funny.
Thanks for letting me know.
Brent


Post# 172559 , Reply# 38   12/5/2006 at 18:04 (6,343 days old) by andrewinorlando ()        

Brent -

It wasn't posted here...i just never thought to do it, and I didn't really find out until this past summer when I couldn't get in touch with him. He was quite a character, but unfortunately was a very, very sick man.


Post# 172577 , Reply# 39   12/5/2006 at 18:41 (6,343 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Andrew, I am very glad you let us know. I had been missing him tremenodusly. He was one of the very few who knew an aweful lot about dishwashers and could remember all of how a particular cycle went on a dishwasher brand. I've lost a dishrack mate.

Post# 172599 , Reply# 40   12/5/2006 at 19:44 (6,343 days old) by andrewinorlando ()        

Bob - he knew that stuff backwards and forwards, in intricate detail. I used to enjoy the many conversations we had about dishwashers, from Bosch to KitchenAid, he knew them all...cycle sequences, loading patterns, engineering, etc. He was so happy because he had recently acquired a new Whirlpool with Power Clean module for his apartment in San Diego...it really made him happy. And we'd talk endlessly about the many loads of pots and pans, dishes, stove parts, etc., that he would do in it. And boy could he do a Bob-load!! He was a very funny guy, with a sardonic sense of humor. I sometimes look back through the archives for his posts. He was only 51.

Post# 172612 , Reply# 41   12/5/2006 at 20:01 (6,343 days old) by 48bencix (Sacramento CA)        
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Andrew,

Thanks for updating us about Party Cycle. I really enjoyed his posts, and knowledge. I did notice that he was missing from this board for a while, but did not know him. When Greg posted his new machine, I wondered.

Again, thanks for letting us know.

Martin


Post# 172654 , Reply# 42   12/5/2006 at 20:59 (6,343 days old) by andrewinorlando ()        

Martin - he had been sick for a long time when he decided to really not have any more contact with people. I was really the only one he talked to as he had no family that he was in contact with (gay, you know!). Aside from some acquaintances where he lived, he really was alone. But he preferred it that way. He suffered from so many serious, fatal ailments that it's a medical miracle he lived as long as he did. It was not unusual to not hear from him for two or three months at a clip, when he wasn't well, or in and out of the hospital, as he would really cease contact with everyone. He seemed to enjoy spending time in Balboa Park, when he could physically get out, as he lived directly across the street from there. Last time he called me, it was to ask me what kind of pressure cooker I had, as he wanted to go out and buy one for himself when he was able to get out again.

I found out he was gone when he stopped returning phone calls and his phone was disconnected and his e-mail account just returned all e-mails as undeliverable, and mail sent to his apartment came back as undeliverable. I did see him in Sept of 2005 while I was out in San Diego at a conference, and he really made an effort to come out for an evening, but it was so hard for him to even walk 20 steps without stopping to rest.

But if you thought he was a character on here, that pales in comparison to how he was in person! A very amusing and interesting guy who had really lived quite a life. Overall, a good, kind and decent person with an incredible wit who could converse intelligently on many, many topics. But he was also a very private and independent person, who let very few people "in". For all the health problems I know he had, he would never talk about them, so it was hard to know exactly what was going on or how seriously ill he really was.


Post# 173041 , Reply# 43   12/6/2006 at 17:14 (6,342 days old) by danemodsandy (The Bramford, Apt. 7-E)        
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Hello:

I haven't posted here in a long, long, LONG time, but I was sorry to read about partycycle.

This thread brings up something I have been meaning to ask: How restorable are 1950s KA DWs? I've been thinking of a KD-11, and wondered what I was getting into with parts availability. Particularly racks, door seals, etc. Or are these machines for advanced collectors- the kind of people who have super-rare machines and parts "magically" appear wherever they go? That ain't me, that's for sure.

Anyway, good to be back.


Post# 173118 , Reply# 44   12/6/2006 at 19:42 (6,342 days old) by brent-aucoin ()        

Andrew,
Thanks for letting us know.
Life sucks at times.
It sounds like he really trusted you, and considered you a friend.
It is nice that you were there for him.
Thanks for the information.
Brent


Post# 173232 , Reply# 45   12/7/2006 at 01:25 (6,342 days old) by sudsmaster (SF Bay Area, California)        

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Me have a KDS17A too. Interior looks a lot like that portable, and is in similar great condition. Don't have room to install it right now, but if the Bosch in the main kitchen ever dies, the KDS17A is going to take its place.



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