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Post# 173803 , Reply# 1   12/8/2006 at 20:07 (6,340 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Post# 174873 , Reply# 2   12/12/2006 at 11:21 (6,336 days old) by chachp (North Little Rock, AR)   |   | |
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Bob, every picture I have seen posted of the interior of this machine has been at such an angle that I could see if there was any water source other than the impeller driving the upper rack. I bet it doesn't spin like the Kenmore Roto racks. My Mom had one of these for a short time in one of her houses. I used to love to open the door quickly to see how fast it was spinning. She replaced it with a Kitchen Aid. She never liked loading that machine. She always felt she lost valuable space on the upper rack where there were no corners to fill.
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Post# 174973 , Reply# 3   12/12/2006 at 21:04 (6,336 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Ralph, I used to do the same thing to both our roto racks when da mom wasn't around lol. I loved listening to the water flying off teh rack as it hit the door during rotation. I found it fascinating much of the water in concave top rack stuff got spun out and remember no food debris when I got aawy without rinsing. My mom didn't know how to load it too well either. But lemme tell ya, I could get just as many glasses and such in that things as our old waste king, which the rotorack replaced in houston. I jsut knew how to do it. I dind't really feel like I missed much by not having the corners.
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Post# 175171 , Reply# 7   12/13/2006 at 15:03 (6,335 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)   |   | |
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I miss mom's old Knemore by D&M roto rack. Both the 1968 TOL model she had and the 1973/1974 MOL. (she moved) The TOL had TONS of indicator lights. Needed a small nuke plant just to power those suckers. I didn't miss those corners one bit. Flung off dirt from over glasses? Brilliant. Had not thought of that. Got mom over to "light wash" (R-W-R-R-Dry) since she was a compulsive wash-them first kinda girl! |
Post# 175225 , Reply# 8   12/13/2006 at 19:52 (6,335 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Steve, my Mom ALWAYS chose light wash for every dishwasher from the 1968 KA to the GSD1200 (she selected energy saver wash on that one). Only time I did a normal cycle was when I was able to get dirty stuff in there. And sani-rinse? Hmm, she avoided unless someone was sick usually. Sometimes she'd use it, but then would advance the knob wehn she got tired of it holding the timer while the water heated to set temp. (which you know drove me crazy).
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Post# 175352 , Reply# 10   12/14/2006 at 08:51 (6,334 days old) by roto204 (Tucson, AZ)   |   | |
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It's been done a few times. This link can take you to the original study (but it's published in German), but it summarizes the findings nicely. CR cites this fact on just about every major report they've done for dishwashers. Especially with modern machines (but even with old ones), there's just no comparison--machines are far more efficient. CLICK HERE TO GO TO roto204's LINK |
Post# 175407 , Reply# 11   12/14/2006 at 12:17 (6,334 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)   |   | |
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Funny thing, the older generation thinks dishwashers use power and they are much more costly to run than "hand washing" Dad agreed to a DW because Consumer Rerpots magazine stated that with automatic DW-ers there was a measurable amount of hot water savings. Mom wanted one for the time savings, the lack of visible clutter(dirties in the sink, cleans air-drying, etc.) But their #1 reason to buy one? GERM-phobia. *DING DING DING DING* An automatic DW (without any special cycles /programmes leaves dishes with literally 100x fewer germs. (high temps, caustic detergents, mechanical action. etc) Now add a "Sani-rinse" option (155*F [70*C+/-]) to a TOL Sears Kenmore (by D&M) with more lights than a space-ship and tell mom about the lack of cross-contamination when one of the brood is ill, and you get.............. SOLD!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Bottom line is, methinks that people LOVE to play with water. (When their egos allow them to lower themselves to actually wash something!) It's primal. We are gestated in it. |
Post# 175409 , Reply# 12   12/14/2006 at 12:22 (6,334 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)   |   | |
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Post# 175424 , Reply# 13   12/14/2006 at 13:50 (6,334 days old) by roto204 (Tucson, AZ)   |   | |
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...and the "rinse pool" method was what we used when I was a kid. The idea of running the hot water constantly was ludicrous. However, part of the argument of the study was that the machines did a more thorough job--but then again, considering that BSH, Electrolux, and Indesit were sponsoring partners on the study.... *ahem* |
Post# 175436 , Reply# 14   12/14/2006 at 15:37 (6,334 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)   |   | |
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Nowthen Nate , Whatever could you mean??????Lol...those lovely Euro dishwashers.... Actually, The dishwasher was the only labour saving appliance that my mum took to like a duck to water...although there where six of us, and we all took turns to wash dry and put-away...mum really loved it, Mum hated her first auto washer because having used her trusty Servis twinny for 18 years, her washday was never finished....i.e. twinny meant everything was washed on washday, whereas with an auto there was always one lonely item in the washbasket which was left for another load on another day..... Do I take it that your dishwashers have a waste disposer effect, i.e will grind n shred large scraps etc... Mike |
Post# 175438 , Reply# 15   12/14/2006 at 15:44 (6,334 days old) by roto204 (Tucson, AZ)   |   | |
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LOL! I mean nothing by that. I think that European machines are the BEST!* I understand about the automatic washer effect--I hate that random leftover item that really should get washed NOW, but would gag the machine and wreck the whole load. That's why you have to have at least two washers to resolve such complications! Dishwashers here sometimes have a sort of waste disposer (older/cheaper GEs come to mind), a food macerator (older D&M dishwashers with their metal star-blade in front of the wash impeller), or a combination of that and soil separator. Most have filtration of some sort, though, and it seems that most machines are heading toward the filtration route in some form. *poster has been compensated by Electrolux AG |
Post# 175440 , Reply# 16   12/14/2006 at 15:50 (6,334 days old) by roto204 (Tucson, AZ)   |   | |
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...the end result of food disposal systems of the macerator/disposer sort that lack other filtration is to grind things like rice bits, beans, and other light duty items (nothing like bones or anything significant) into smaller particles, which are then redistributed, via the pump system, into the wash water, whereupon they are deposited evenly on all dishes throughout the machine, most especially the drinking glasses and such in the top rack. This prevents food from being left solely on dirtier items. |
Post# 175791 , Reply# 17   12/15/2006 at 13:43 (6,333 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)   |   | |
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Post# 176027 , Reply# 19   12/16/2006 at 15:24 (6,332 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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