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Post# 53061   1/11/2005 at 00:50 (7,017 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Sears has the 3.5 CuFt Kenmore (built by Electrolux)washers and matching dryers on online. Looks like Sears has gone with a totally new design and features many of which are taken from Electrolux built washers and dryers sold in Europe. Frigidaire's version is due to come out soon, and GE's (their own, no longer built by Electrolux) will arrive by summer. There are four versions of these units, in keeping with Sear's policy of having two of basically the same unit (one of which is almost always on sale). The link shows the "Better" line, the "Best" which is not up yet has more features like "No Iron" (cold water shower to prevent creasing), and different controls. What is interesting is that these units hold as much as the "HE" series from Sears, just with a smaller footprint. Many over on THS think the new models will eat into the "HE" series sales as they hold about the same, cost less and are smaller. L. CLICK HERE TO GO TO Launderess's LINK |
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Post# 53084 , Reply# 1   1/11/2005 at 08:33 (7,016 days old) by jasonl (Cookeville, TN)   |   | |
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I was hoping to see some black/chrome or any of the new colors that Kenmore is pushing on the HEs. There's always avocado paint >:-) |
Post# 53092 , Reply# 2   1/11/2005 at 11:15 (7,016 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)   |   | |
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Thanks for the heads-up on the new Frigmore FL's, Launderess. I'll have to wait for the Frigidaire model, as the nearest Sears outlet is 65 miles away. They look sharp! I wonder if the ART rinsing system saves water? I've noticed the water efficiency of the Frigmores is considerably lower than the Hettie/Duet models. Gee, and I remember Consumer Reports giving the first Frigmores excellent ratings straight across the board when they were first introduced back in '96. CR's most recent report showed them looking a bit dated compared to the super-specs of the Hettie/Duets, Bosch's and LG models. |
Post# 53095 , Reply# 3   1/11/2005 at 13:00 (7,016 days old) by davenp ()   |   | |
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I hope Laundress is happy with herself... NOW I have to make an urgent call to Sears to order a set of these. They just look.... So neat! >>drooling<< Dave |
Post# 53097 , Reply# 4   1/11/2005 at 13:20 (7,016 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Post# 53098 , Reply# 5   1/11/2005 at 13:21 (7,016 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Post# 53099 , Reply# 6   1/11/2005 at 13:23 (7,016 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Here is a list of features for the new models. The brochure she gave me has four 3.5 cf models - here are the "Step Up" features: "Better" -- High Efficiency Washers 44052 & 44152: Capacity: 3.5 Controls: Electronic Cycles: 12 including Wool and Touch Up Motor Speed: 3 Spin Speed: 5 Max. Spin Speed: 1000 RPM Auto Dispenser: Larger Easy Fill Compartments Advanced Rinse Technology 46% Larger Door Opening 5 Spin Speeds Heavy Soil Setting Add a Garment Indicator Cycle Status Lights Control Lock Out Option Delay Start Option (4/8/12 hrs on 44052, 4/8/14 hrs on 44152) "Best" -- #'s 44082 & 44092 (all of the above, plus the following): Cycles: 16, including Towels and Jeans Max. Spin Speed: 1100 Eco Cycle (15 Gallons use per cycle vs. 40 in conventional Washers) Automatic Temperature Control 5 Temperature Selections Improved Door Design with Silver Metallic Accents Easy Iron Option Soil Settings (Heavy/Normal/Light) LED Count Down Display Expanded Delay Start Options (1 - 12 hr on 44082, 1 - 16 hr on 44092 |
Post# 53105 , Reply# 8   1/11/2005 at 14:41 (7,016 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Think the prevailing wisdom is that with a washer close enough to the source of hot water, one would not "need" an internal heater. 120V washer heat water so slowly it can make for some long cycle times, which seems to go agianst what Americans want in a front loader; the ability to do large amounts of laundry quickly. If one does want a heater, there is always the "HE" series. FriGiLux The new Frigidaire version of these units is model #FTF2140E. There is nothing on Frigidaire's website yet, but the washer is listed on Energy Star's site. Almost was settled on the MaySungs, now will have to wait until all the new Kenmores are in so can take me a good long look. One added bonus of the Kenmore units, is they are built by Electrolux in their United States plant. More Americans working and putting meat on the table always gets my vote. Launderess |
Post# 53223 , Reply# 11   1/12/2005 at 14:32 (7,015 days old) by golittlesport (California)   |   | |
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Post# 53300 , Reply# 12   1/13/2005 at 00:58 (7,014 days old) by Boschowner ()   |   | |
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"I always have the Danby though, for those urges" DaveNP: Dont you own the HE4T for those urges? |
Post# 53370 , Reply# 15   1/13/2005 at 19:01 (7,014 days old) by golittlesport (California)   |   | |
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Post# 53375 , Reply# 16   1/13/2005 at 20:53 (7,014 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Read the fine print on the box and you will see that particular version of Tide is effective against a small list of bacteria. The most commonly found bacteria found on laundry, E Coli is NOT listed, and it is all over everyone's wash. Normal laundering methods; hot water, mechanical action, change of water temsp (hot to cold), and chemicals contained within modern laundry detergents do a pretty good job of killing bacteria. If you want to take things furhter, there is always chlorine bleach (still the most effective and wide spectrum disenfectant available widely), or very hot wash temps for an extended period of time. Launderess |
Post# 53467 , Reply# 18   1/14/2005 at 16:09 (7,013 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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5 minutes is not long enough to kill *everything* not even most forms of E coli. IIRC the "standard" most health departments use is 160F-165F or above for 20 minutes. Yeast, also commonly found on undergarments will not be destroyed at the above temps, and requires 180F and above. Happily many detergents contain chemicals that will disenfect at 140-160 F for at least 20 minutes. Now, if one is using chlorine bleach, then 5 minutes at 140 or above is fine. However bleach is weakened by the presence of too much organic matter. This is why commercial laundries add bleach after to a wash bath after "flushing" or usually as a separate cycle. L. |
Post# 53527 , Reply# 19   1/15/2005 at 04:25 (7,012 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Post# 54047 , Reply# 25   1/20/2005 at 14:53 (7,007 days old) by laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii)   |   | |
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I visited Sears today and saw the beautiful new front loaders that just arived.there are three of each to choose (good,better,and best)and the "best"set has a matching dryer that comes with a see through window(not smoked glass)to make the pair look like twins.Their risers unlike the previous ones have plenty of space for storage in the metal framed drawers that have metal frames instead of plastic with barings to make them easy to slide open and shut.the "good" set is the original3.1 cu ft washer and 5.7 cu ft dryer.The "Better" sets upgrade with advanced rinsing technology(ART),46%larger door opening,5 spin speed selections,add a garment indicater,cycle status lights,control lock out option,delay start option,and optional 15"pedistal drawer.The "Best"sets upgrade withEco cycle(15 gallons use per cycle),5 temperature settings,improved door design withsilver metalic accents,easy iron option,LED countdown display,delay start options,optional 15"pedestal drawer.The "good"dryers are the same as usual but the "better"ones step up with 5.8 cu ft drum,stainless steel drum back,soft heat,lock out options,clean lint filter indicater,cycle status indicater,touch up cycle,quick cycle,optional 15"pedistal drawer.The "Best"dryers step up with stainless steel drum,heat reduction technology shrink guard and soft heat,SEE THROUGH DOOR WINDOW,improved door design with silver metalic accents,and optional 15"pedestal drawer.No idea on the price of the high end set but the "better washer goes for $799 and the dryer goes for $469.Gas would cost about $60 more.
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Post# 54057 , Reply# 26   1/20/2005 at 17:05 (7,007 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Post# 54081 , Reply# 27   1/20/2005 at 21:15 (7,007 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Post# 58490 , Reply# 29   2/28/2005 at 13:19 (6,968 days old) by pdub (Portland, Oregon)   |   | |
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This was in the Lowes ad in the Sunday paper. This price and these features make this well worth looking at. My '98 Frigidaire FL is still going strong and I use it to the max. Well we've finally gotten our wish and they've built in a heater. Still no details on the Frigidaire website.
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Post# 58491 , Reply# 30   2/28/2005 at 13:25 (6,968 days old) by pdub (Portland, Oregon)   |   | |
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Post# 58492 , Reply# 31   2/28/2005 at 13:27 (6,968 days old) by GadgetGary (Bristol,CT)   |   | |
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Post# 58494 , Reply# 33   2/28/2005 at 13:45 (6,968 days old) by pdub (Portland, Oregon)   |   | |
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Post# 58518 , Reply# 34   2/28/2005 at 17:19 (6,968 days old) by PeterH770 (Marietta, GA)   |   | |
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Nothing here says water heater. The "manual hot/cold" means that you have to select hot to get hot -- none of the cycles will wash in hot otherwise. I saw both models at Lowe's over the weekend and there is nothing like a "power", "boosted" or "sanitary" selection. But I'd still buy one; they sure are purty!
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Post# 58523 , Reply# 35   2/28/2005 at 17:52 (6,968 days old) by westytoploader ()   |   | |
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Wow...those Frigidaires are indeed pretty cool for modern machines! |
Post# 58529 , Reply# 36   2/28/2005 at 18:53 (6,968 days old) by golittlesport (California)   |   | |
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I saw that ad and think it is a typo. I think that that "heater" line was to go with the Bosch set right after the Frigidaires. Each ad had that same graphic with different words on it. The Bosch set just said something like "saves water and energy." Wouldn't be the first time that the graphic arts dept mixed up features on an ad.
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Post# 58542 , Reply# 37   2/28/2005 at 19:54 (6,968 days old) by alr2903 (TN)   |   | |
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Retail the new SQ line or not? alr2903 |
Post# 58609 , Reply# 39   3/1/2005 at 12:19 (6,967 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)   |   | |
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O-o-o-o-o-o-h!! I'm going to have to go to my local dealer and order this new machine. I printed out the operating instructions (from the Frigidaire site) and it looks very interesting. Interesting Note: The Wool, Delicate, Handwash and Bulky cycles use a higher water level, so the door remains locked throughout the cycle "to prevent water spills." Sounds exciting!
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Post# 58611 , Reply# 40   3/1/2005 at 12:31 (6,967 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)   |   | |
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BUMMER ALERT/BIG COME-DOWN: After getting all hot 'n' bothered over the new Frigidaire FL washer, I checked out the dryer. It has a puny 5.8 cu.ft. drum. My current Frigidaire dryer has a 5.7 cu.ft. drum and it's hardly big enough to handle the loads from my 3 cu.ft. washer drum. In fact, when I really fill the washer with big bath towels, I have to split the load in two for the dryer, as the instructions say not to fill it more than a little over 1/3 full. I just don't understand why other manufacturers can squeeze a 7+ cu.ft. dryer drum into their machines, but Frigilux has a drum which is at least as small (if not smaller) than the 1960 Kenmore we used to have!! I'm going to write a nasty letter to someone over there. What a freakin' BUMMER!! Guess I'll have to take a second look at the Duets after all ..... |
Post# 58631 , Reply# 41   3/1/2005 at 16:13 (6,967 days old) by jmirawm (Barling Arkansas)   |   | |
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Patrick ! Those are too COOL! What are the model numbers on those? I cant make it out. I LOVE those! |
Post# 58638 , Reply# 43   3/1/2005 at 17:10 (6,967 days old) by pdub (Portland, Oregon)   |   | |
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Post# 58655 , Reply# 44   3/1/2005 at 19:08 (6,967 days old) by golittlesport (California)   |   | |
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Post# 58680 , Reply# 45   3/1/2005 at 21:58 (6,967 days old) by pdub (Portland, Oregon)   |   | |
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Post# 58727 , Reply# 47   3/2/2005 at 09:24 (6,966 days old) by PeterH770 (Marietta, GA)   |   | |
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Post# 58742 , Reply# 48   3/2/2005 at 13:49 (6,966 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)   |   | |
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Post# 58795 , Reply# 50   3/2/2005 at 18:44 (6,966 days old) by pdub (Portland, Oregon)   |   | |
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Post# 59035 , Reply# 52   3/4/2005 at 17:51 (6,964 days old) by golittlesport (California)   |   | |
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Post# 59481 , Reply# 54   3/8/2005 at 19:26 (6,960 days old) by Washman (o)   |   | |
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I just bought the 44082 , it is on backorder until March 17th. Has anyone used All Free & Clear in a front loader? Can't wait till the 17th. |
Post# 59510 , Reply# 55   3/9/2005 at 02:53 (6,959 days old) by rchris ()   |   | |
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Very nice price. I was expecting to see something closer to $1,000 for the top-line washer... |