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Post# 187628   1/31/2007 at 13:03 (4,494 days old) by runematic (southcentral pa)        

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Here are a couple of pix of the brand new Maytag DD washer.

Post# 187629 , Reply# 1   1/31/2007 at 13:05 (4,494 days old) by runematic (southcentral pa)        

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Here is another control panel shot. What does that say in the lower right corner? Does it say what I think it says?

Post# 187630 , Reply# 2   1/31/2007 at 13:05 (4,494 days old) by runematic (southcentral pa)        

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Oh my.

Post# 187631 , Reply# 3   1/31/2007 at 13:08 (4,494 days old) by runematic (southcentral pa)        

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All-in-all, I'm glad it's not the magicnorgetag washer. I like the center dial, but I think the knobage (is that a word?) could be a little better. I like the Kenmore-style Elite top on the cabinet. This model has the grey spreckle tub.

Post# 187641 , Reply# 4   1/31/2007 at 13:54 (4,494 days old) by gadgetgary (Bristol,CT)        
Thanks for those wonderful pics....

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Now can you open up and show us the all important interior shot???

Post# 187642 , Reply# 5   1/31/2007 at 14:05 (4,494 days old) by maytagbear (N.E. Ohio)        
Gah!

It's a Whirltag!


If I weren't getting over bronchitis, I would be sick.


Freaking sacrilege that they call it "Dependable Care!"


Lawrence/Maytagbear


Post# 187644 , Reply# 6   1/31/2007 at 14:28 (4,494 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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ball hinge = bye-bye?

Post# 187648 , Reply# 7   1/31/2007 at 14:37 (4,494 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        
Awwwwwww...

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I was hoping for buttons flanking the center dial...

A bit of a let-down all in all.


Post# 187650 , Reply# 8   1/31/2007 at 14:40 (4,494 days old) by runematic (southcentral pa)        

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Yep. No more balls. It's the typical WP lid hinge. Here is an interior shot. Pardon the color. My camera took a header off my desk last week and now it is taking some downright crappy pictures.

Post# 187652 , Reply# 9   1/31/2007 at 14:42 (4,494 days old) by runematic (southcentral pa)        

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Here is an angle shot. Now that I look at it, it kinda reminds me of the old WP dryer that Veg has posted in the imperial forum.

Post# 187653 , Reply# 10   1/31/2007 at 14:47 (4,494 days old) by peterh770 (Marietta, GA)        

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Horrible styling!

Post# 187654 , Reply# 11   1/31/2007 at 14:47 (4,494 days old) by gadgetgary (Bristol,CT)        
Thanks

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What a different interior for Maytag.......Dependable Care? I think not!


Post# 187657 , Reply# 12   1/31/2007 at 14:58 (4,494 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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~Yep. No more balls.

Uh, I'd say they have plenty of those to do this to that name-brand.

Sad, so sad that this is supposed to pass as a Maytag.


Post# 187669 , Reply# 13   1/31/2007 at 16:24 (4,494 days old) by maytagbear (N.E. Ohio)        
Again...

I am close to heartbroken, and that is a word I don't use often, or lightly.

The only thing that is "Maytag" on that machine is the name. Just another Whirlpool to me.
(and no offence to anyone connected to Whirlpool Co.)


Lawrence/Maytagbear


Post# 187675 , Reply# 14   1/31/2007 at 16:37 (4,494 days old) by repair-man (Pittsburgh PA)        

As I mentioned in another thread my first impression was that the panel was a little too plain.

But remember, the top two models (MTW5800 & MTW5900) are said to have "premium" knob and consoles. It specifically states "premium knob" not "premium knobs". Are buttons too much to hope for ?

Ed


Post# 187677 , Reply# 15   1/31/2007 at 16:41 (4,494 days old) by westytoploader ()        

Thanks for posting the pictures. Interesting design to say the least, but I'm thankful they aren't those horrid Norgetags. The "Dependable Care" moniker came as a bit of a surprise. Does this mean that the REAL Dependable Cares will soon be phased out, if they haven't been already?

I wonder if perhaps the more high-end models will be different style-wise. The control panel has an asymmetrical look to it with the knobs on one side, but I have a feeling it was done on purpose, so it wouldn't look like an 80's center-dial Kenmore.

I'm interested in seeing the other models. If one in the lineup ends up having buttons, it might follow me home from Lowe's...

--Austin


Post# 187685 , Reply# 16   1/31/2007 at 17:29 (4,494 days old) by arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)        
Hmmm.

I dont mind the look from the outside. Almost retro looking.

But I am so dissappointed with the agitator! Surely Whirlpool/Kenmore have enough different agitators in the parts bin to come up with something a bit different.

Plus the DD machines are so hard on clothes.


Post# 187686 , Reply# 17   1/31/2007 at 17:34 (4,494 days old) by vintagesearch ()        

How strange looking, i dont like this specific model at all maybe maytag shouldve stuck with there previous design. Its a whirltag, waytag, mirlpool! LOL hideous freak! LOL

Post# 187687 , Reply# 18   1/31/2007 at 17:34 (4,494 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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I wonder if the TOL models will have white porcelain baskets?

I do like the new liquid bleach cup - WP has been using this for a little while now, it makes more sense - easier to pour into without sloshing it all over the corner...


Post# 187702 , Reply# 19   1/31/2007 at 18:27 (4,494 days old) by dadoes (TX,†U.S. of A.)        

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Kinda interesting. But I have to say the console looks off-balance. Some text or a graphic on the right side would fill in the space.

Post# 187718 , Reply# 20   1/31/2007 at 19:48 (4,494 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        
Off balance controls...

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How about a nice Dispens-o-Tag system to balance it out? Detergent, bleach, softener, pre-soak/additives - perfect!

If Whirlpool can build a refrigerator with an ice bucket in the door, they can do this!


Post# 187729 , Reply# 21   1/31/2007 at 20:48 (4,494 days old) by johnb300m (Chicago)        

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the center dial layout looks pretty classy. You should see it in person, it is nice.
The dial and knobs though, when you play with them, feel like crap. I don't know where WP got them, but quality and smoothness are NOT adjectives to describe them.
The rest of the machine is nice.

Hopefully, these are just "transition" models.


Post# 187730 , Reply# 22   1/31/2007 at 20:51 (4,494 days old) by johnb300m (Chicago)        

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the center dial layout looks pretty classy. You should see it in person, it is nice.
The dial and knobs though, when you play with them, feel like crap. I don't know where WP got them, but quality and smoothness are NOT adjectives to describe them.
The rest of the machine is nice.

Hopefully, these are just "transition" models.


Post# 187731 , Reply# 23   1/31/2007 at 20:53 (4,494 days old) by johnb300m (Chicago)        

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the center dial layout looks pretty classy. You should see it in person, it is nice.
The dial and knobs though, when you play with them, feel like crap. I don't know where WP got them, but quality and smoothness are NOT adjectives to describe them.
The rest of the machine is nice.

Hopefully, these are just "transition" models.


Post# 187737 , Reply# 24   1/31/2007 at 21:19 (4,493 days old) by llmaytag (Southern California)        
Ugh!

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That looks just like the WP I just bought which I am not happy with. This weekend I'm definitely finding the LAV3600 somewhere and buying it. I think it's horrible that they are putting "Dependable Care" on that thing!

Post# 187741 , Reply# 25   1/31/2007 at 21:24 (4,493 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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OK in this world made for righties, wouldn't the knobs have made more sense on the right side of the center-dial, if one had to choose a side?

Post# 187742 , Reply# 26   1/31/2007 at 21:27 (4,493 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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Does that temp. knob say

Cold
Cool
Warm
Hot?

How does this get accomplished? is it a re-hash of 60s and earlier water temp controls with four settings/options?


Post# 187743 , Reply# 27   1/31/2007 at 21:29 (4,493 days old) by gadgetgary (Bristol,CT)        
This weekend I'm definitely finding the LAV3600 somewher

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Leonard,

Run, don't walk!

Do not pass go......Do not collect $200.



Post# 187746 , Reply# 28   1/31/2007 at 21:36 (4,493 days old) by alr2903 (TN)        

I think im in shock. Guess we knew it was coming. Runematic thanks for posting the pics.

Post# 187788 , Reply# 29   1/31/2007 at 23:52 (4,493 days old) by brettsomers ()        

Its gross. That horrible generic font they used to spell "Dependable Care" on the cheap painted panel only adds to my nausea. Just the sight of that horrible agitator sitting in that ugly speckled basket makes me very sad.

Post# 187790 , Reply# 30   1/31/2007 at 23:59 (4,493 days old) by johnb300m (Chicago)        

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guys, styling wise, they seriously could've done a worse job.
On the exterior...that sorta feels "Maytagish" IMO.
Yeah the inside sucks, and us purists may hate it, but I think this machine and its bretheren may do some good for the Maytag brand for the masses.


Post# 187801 , Reply# 31   12/31/2069 at 18:00 (18,039 days old) by agiflow ()        

I don't think it's that bad. A white porcelain tub and a straight vane agi would have been much better.

Hopefully this is only a transition model and WP really will make Maytag a premium brand again.


Post# 187808 , Reply# 32   2/1/2007 at 02:05 (4,493 days old) by norgeman ()        
Re: MagNorgetags:

I'm sorry but I used to have a Magic Chef washer and it was a pretty nice machine at lest it was better than Whirlpool crap which I haven't liked since they started putting the auger agis in there washers I would rather have a straight vane agi. and btw the Magic chef lasted around 7yrs. with no touble. Danf.

Post# 187823 , Reply# 33   2/1/2007 at 05:06 (4,493 days old) by burpalator ()        
LAV3600

Since the folks I ordered the Maymana dryer from for my sister were so understanding and cooperative in my decision to not accept delivery, I feel I should do a little promotion on their behalf. They have the LAV3600 for $530, including shipping. No sales tax unless you're in Florida. Their online store is www.appliancesonlineus.com....

Post# 187832 , Reply# 34   2/1/2007 at 07:12 (4,493 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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~Hopefully this is only a transition model and WP really will make Maytag a premium brand again.

I don't know. when I see a Kitchen Aid style (exactly)silverware basket in the Whirlpool BOL dishwashers, I think: WHY? This CAN'T possible align the brand (Kitchen Aid) with a "TOL" premium image.




Post# 187836 , Reply# 35   2/1/2007 at 08:17 (4,493 days old) by repair-man (Pittsburgh PA)        

The next model up has a white porcelain basket. And the two top models have S.S.

I guess they left both knobs on the left side because the next models start adding knobs to the right side. I know for sure the MTW5700 has an extra rinse knob on the right side.

As far as temp selections go- more and more top loads have "cool" settings. I don't know if it's mandatory as of yet but it's part of the energy requirements. It's accomplished with ETC. Just cycles the hot off a little to dumb down the otherwise warm temp.

And I don't see a big problem with the use of Dependable Care. Not much of what Maytag built in the last 10 years has been all that dependable. Including the dependable care. I repair as many of the DC's I sold as I do NorgeTags. Stem seals/ tub bearings mainly. Anyway a direct drive (especially with the new heavy duty coupler) should be very depenable. Now the "care" part may be another story.

ED


Post# 187837 , Reply# 36   2/1/2007 at 08:17 (4,493 days old) by runematic (southcentral pa)        

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The rest of the non-stainless models will have the white porcelain basket. I also just got notice that the LAV will be discontinued by mid-Feb. The warehouses do seem to have a bunch in stock yet though.

Post# 187996 , Reply# 37   2/1/2007 at 20:13 (4,493 days old) by exploder3211 ()        

Nice machiene

Post# 188018 , Reply# 38   2/1/2007 at 21:14 (4,492 days old) by kirk280980 ()        

As a Maytag, it's a pretty poor imitation. Can see where they're going with squared-off look, the horizontal line on the control panel (where the blue or gold trim once was) and the Maytag logo on the bottom left, though. Perhaps they hope consumers will pick up on these subtle styling cues, and assume that it's a real centre-dial machine which has merely been given a facelift for 2007.

Now, as the Whirlpool it really is, I quite like it. The styling on current WP branded TLs does absolutely nothing for me, so this offers a welcome alternative. Of course, aesthetics are purely subjective, and what one person would consider "understated", another would call downright plain and boring!

I wonder how many people who have had a bad experience with a Whirlpool will vow never to buy another one again, deciding to opt for a Maytag next time instead...oh dear.


Post# 188063 , Reply# 39   2/2/2007 at 00:35 (4,492 days old) by oxydolfan1 ()        

I don't like the Whirlpool brand machine's control board styling, so this for me is actually an improvement!

The Maytag of old is history, we must face this....just think what this machine may have looked liked, if Haier had gotten their hands on it!

Blessed is the Lord, I hope that all of those Legacy "Norgetags" at Home Depot just quietly disappear....whenever you guys get disgusted, visualize the "Legacy" monstrosities these will replace!

From a graphics and marketing standpoint, the silliest thing they could have done is the "Dependable Care" script! They had ONE chance to reinvent their image, and sell themselves...

Runematic, I hope these machines sell like hotcakes for you!


Post# 188064 , Reply# 40   2/2/2007 at 00:37 (4,492 days old) by oxydolfan1 ()        

I don't like the Whirlpool brand machine's control board styling, so this for me is actually an improvement!

The Maytag of old is history, we must face this....just think what this machine may have looked liked, if Haier had gotten their hands on it!

Blessed is the Lord, I hope that all of those Legacy "Norgetags" at Home Depot just quietly disappear....whenever you guys get disgusted, visualize the "Legacy" monstrosities these will replace!

From a graphics and marketing standpoint, the silliest thing they could have done is the "Dependable Care" script! They had ONE chance to reinvent their image, and sell themselves...

Runematic, I hope these machines sell like hotcakes for you!


Post# 188072 , Reply# 41   2/2/2007 at 02:46 (4,492 days old) by exploder3211 ()        

It would be better with knobs on both sides or one knob on each side of the panel

Post# 188094 , Reply# 42   2/2/2007 at 08:32 (4,492 days old) by oxydolfan1 ()        

I think that might remind too many people of the Edsel....

Post# 188095 , Reply# 43   2/2/2007 at 08:36 (4,492 days old) by maytagmark (Galveston,Tx.)        

was at Hom* depot the other day and was looking at the maytag washers, just curious to see what they still had, with the whirlpool merge thing, they had a commercial machine with a stainless tub for about 450.00 "dependable care" and a 350.00 "dependable care" for 350.00 with a plastic tub,but it looks like I already have their latest model, My roper (whirlpool)its a great machine, but no maytag,and the maytags haven't been true maytags since the old center dial models.

Post# 188099 , Reply# 44   2/2/2007 at 08:49 (4,492 days old) by maytagmark (Galveston,Tx.)        

Can't complain one bit about this washer, I wanted a match to my center dial maytag dryer,I did find one but was living in a third floor condo and was afraid of it leaking, so I decided to buy a new washer, I had picked out one at conn's,then I happened to find this one just like it that someone put out to the curb, the lid switch was broken, it couldn't have been over a year old, I've used it for four years and it's still like new.

Post# 188252 , Reply# 45   2/3/2007 at 00:02 (4,491 days old) by volvoguy87 (Cincinnati, OH)        
New Center-Dials, sort of...

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I agree that the control panel looks out of balence with the extra knobs on one side. And where's the light? Whenever I hear "Center Dial," I think that would look great with a light! My folks had a 1993 KM DD machine that I would rate a good medium. It was always dependable, never needed repairs, was ok on the clothes, and did an ok job washing. Whirlpool has traditionally been a reliable medium-grade manufacturer. Their goods have been dependable, and able to perform their duties consistently and thoroughally. Maytag, on the other hand, was always a high-grade manufacturer. Not all of their offorings were filled with bells & whistles, but their quality was second-to-none, and they did their respective jobs better than almost anyone else. Maytag tripped in the 1990s and produced some terrible designs which led to their downfall. It saddens me that Whirlpool is acting like a vulture and feasting on the dead remains. The final insult is putting a DD in Maytag clothing.
FOLKS, IT ISN"T A MAYTAG! It will not perform like a good Maytag, and it certainly will not last like one. Whirlpool has been a good medium, but you can't send an average machine to do a superior machine's job.
Maytag is dead. She died a painful death after a self-inflicted illness, and there was much suffering. The funeral was lead by Whirlpool, and following a brief service, her remains were unceremoniously buried upside down in a shallow, muddy, grave. Later this summer, there will be a simple graveside service where Maytag's next of kin can spit on the grave. The family issued a press release from their vacation-home in which they stated that they were saddened by the recent passing of their newest member, but were making it through the difficult times thanks to the inspiration of family-friend WCI.

A moment of silence please out of respect for the departed,
Dave


Post# 188293 , Reply# 46   2/3/2007 at 10:30 (4,491 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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~I don't think it's that bad.
But Pat you LIKE WP washers....so this is not a stretch.

I still find it fascinating that WP is killing classic Maytag DC engineering. It's all about ego. Has WP not figured out that there are SO MANY brand names with their engineering and one-by-one they fizzle? Why add another?

Maytag
Estate
Roper
Inglis
Sears
Crosley
KitchenAid

Who have I forgotten?

If you are buying the rights to the patents and the engineering and the reputation as well as the factories and the talents of those working in and running them, WHY OH WHY KILL IT?

easy: EGO and market-share.


Post# 188299 , Reply# 47   2/3/2007 at 11:14 (4,491 days old) by agiflow ()        

Whirlpool already has a reliable design with their dd washers Steve. Am i correct in saying that the one your mom has from the mid 80's is still working to this day?

I do agree though that the classic DC was a great long lasting and reliable design....let's face facts though, as you said..it is all about the bottom line, and i will be surprised if the current Kenmore i have now will even make it to the 10 year mark.

I just wish WP would lengthen the agitation stroke and slow it down a bit,..but otherwise it does what it is designed to do well enough.


Post# 188321 , Reply# 48   2/3/2007 at 13:17 (4,491 days old) by washoholic (San Antonio, TX)        

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It looks like the new Maytag is the old Roper. Well, the Roper does have the best repair history according to Consumer Reports, and thatís the only good thing I can say about it.

The bleach dispenser is big, but I hope itís not the timed bleach dispenser used on the Kenmore line.

My neighbor complained that her Kenmore was ďleakingĒ and it was less than 2 years old. After taking a look, the reservoir (just under the lid) that holds the bleach until itís flushed out in the wash was clogged with lint and hair (it has a tiny hole). Every cycle it would dump a little water on the floor making her think there was a leak.

Itís an easy fix w/ a pipe cleaner once you get the top of the machine off. I explained it to her, as I'm sure it'll happen again, but the poor thing just kept saying, ďBut I donít use bleach.Ē


Post# 188324 , Reply# 49   2/3/2007 at 13:47 (4,491 days old) by bestcleaning ()        
I like new Maytag

No white tub?

Post# 188351 , Reply# 50   2/3/2007 at 19:46 (4,491 days old) by johnb300m (Chicago)        
Maytag Engineering

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Let's be serious here. For at least 10 years Maytag has had some HORRIBLE engineering. For the sake of the brand, I am so glad Whirlpool has scooped them up. Like someone said earlier, think of how horrible their products would be if Haier bought them.
I am NOT a fan of the WP-DD, but it is by far, a superior design to what Maytag was cranking out within the last 10 years.

Maytag was making some good ranges, fridges and dishwashers....but why on earth they screwed up their laundry? I have no idea....but i'm sure Whirlpool is working on it, cuz Whirlpool laundry is...well, not my favorite, but it gets the job done with no fuss.


Post# 188368 , Reply# 51   2/3/2007 at 21:45 (4,490 days old) by oxydolfan1 ()        

I would actually buy this machine, sight unseen.

Post# 188389 , Reply# 52   2/3/2007 at 23:21 (4,490 days old) by exploder3211 ()        

Maytagmark
I have that machiene, i dropped it off the porch... It works, but leaks...

Good unit


Post# 189237 , Reply# 53   2/7/2007 at 14:14 (4,487 days old) by oxydolfan1 ()        

Has this machine been selling well, so far?

I haven't seen one yet in person, but I've seen reports of other posters here, spotting them....

And I just noticed the enlarged lid.


Post# 189249 , Reply# 54   2/7/2007 at 14:58 (4,487 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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I saw a couple of these new models at "The Mart" yesterday and have to say that I was more impressed with the look than I thought I would be. I still wish they would use some buttons, but the higher end model is a little more balanced and the panel isn't as cheesy looking as I'd feared. The only dryer model I saw was a side-swing door with filter on the top, I hope they give the drop-down door and maybe even the 27" version a go in the Maytag line as well.

Post# 189462 , Reply# 55   2/8/2007 at 07:33 (4,486 days old) by runematic (southcentral pa)        

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Right now, the only door offered is the swing door and I did not see any mention of the hamper door. As far as I know, the only size will be the 29" dryer.

Post# 189473 , Reply# 56   2/8/2007 at 08:01 (4,486 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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I gave a friend a KitchenAid dryer with the side-swing door and while I was testing it in the garage with a few loads, I really liked the door out of the way. You have complete access to that massive drum which is nice and "people of smaller stature", like my friend, don't have to crawl inside to retrieve that last sock.

Post# 189696 , Reply# 57   2/8/2007 at 22:54 (4,485 days old) by arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)        

Cant wait to see what the higher spec models look like. Especially the stainless steel tub.




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