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Post# 191078   2/14/2007 at 18:54 (4,482 days old) by westyslantfront ()        

With the new center dial washer being produced by Whirlpool with the Maytag label on, do we call it a "Whirltag" or a

Post# 191082 , Reply# 1   2/14/2007 at 19:29 (4,482 days old) by maytagbear (N.E. Ohio)        
Great question,


To me, it is, and forever will be a Whirltag.


Post# 191088 , Reply# 2   2/14/2007 at 21:17 (4,482 days old) by gadgetgary (Bristol,CT)        

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Why don't we call it a May-Poo....without the "L"

Post# 191111 , Reply# 3   2/14/2007 at 22:15 (4,482 days old) by ~sudsshane ()        


Post# 191118 , Reply# 4   2/14/2007 at 22:31 (4,482 days old) by zipdang (Portland, OR)        

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I'll second that.

Post# 191120 , Reply# 5   2/14/2007 at 22:37 (4,482 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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oh yes I can see why we'd want to call it poo.

Post# 191154 , Reply# 6   2/15/2007 at 01:17 (4,481 days old) by agiflow ()        

If Maytag could have done better...they might still be in business.

Post# 191159 , Reply# 7   2/15/2007 at 01:49 (4,481 days old) by brettsomers ()        
you wanna get personal...

too bad Maytag couldnt be in bed with Sears and turn out pedestrian, cheap product like other manufacturers (ducks and runs)...

Post# 191168 , Reply# 8   2/15/2007 at 05:49 (4,481 days old) by irishwashguy (Salem,Oregon.............A Capital City)        
I never thought that I would live to see the day that we wou

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and sadly a relief to ole' lonely. They may be better than the crap that they were turing out from before. I saw a Real and Up close Whirlpool at Costco yesterday,exactly like the Whirltag inside, down to to agitator and bleach dispenser.Sad but true. I guess that when my Mom buys her Bosch, i better collect the old Maytag set from the clutches of my little brother who wants them.
PS----this is not my Mother's Maytag, the old 407 or the 412.
PPS--Does anyone know where they are building the new machines? Are they coming from South of the Happiest place in the world, Tijajuana?

Post# 191170 , Reply# 9   2/15/2007 at 06:04 (4,481 days old) by laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii)        

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how about "Maywhirl"or "Tagpool"??????????????????????????????????I kind of like "Maywhirl"because if you overload the agitator ype top loaders,your clothes "May whirl" LOL

Post# 191186 , Reply# 10   2/15/2007 at 07:59 (4,481 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains)        
Whirltag, just no more Amanatags

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Wish we were all wealthy enough to buy back Maytag. We could concentrate on building just a small range of high quality, well-made machines. No dishwashers or Amannananatags or any of the other nonsense. Just washers and dryers. Wouldn't that be fun?
The best of each era, with the dial back in the center where it belongs and pushbuttons on each side.

Post# 191191 , Reply# 11   2/15/2007 at 08:31 (4,481 days old) by partscounterman (Cortez, Colorado)        

What happened to "Shredtag"?

Post# 191208 , Reply# 12   2/15/2007 at 09:25 (4,481 days old) by agiflow ()        

...or maybe Maypoolmore.

Post# 191427 , Reply# 13   2/16/2007 at 00:02 (4,481 days old) by exploder3211 ()        

I like Shredtag, i wonderd why my cloths always got holes in them (esp. my t-shits)..

If not Maypoo (no l) or Whirltag it is

Post# 191468 , Reply# 14   2/16/2007 at 06:44 (4,480 days old) by westyslantfront ()        

I was at Homo Depot yesterday and saw a center dial Whirltag (or Maypool). It was strange to see the Maytag label on the control panel but as soon as you opened the lid, you knew it was a Whirlpool.


Post# 191475 , Reply# 15   2/16/2007 at 07:40 (4,480 days old) by mayken4now (Panama City, Florida)        

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How bout' "bullshit"


Post# 191609 , Reply# 16   2/16/2007 at 16:51 (4,480 days old) by geextrarinse (Hudson Valley, New York )        
This is funny -

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i too was at the homodepot yesterday and saw the new whirltag with the center dial - they all must have reccently got the new shipment. I kinda like that they put the dial back in the middle! its the only difference between them and the whirlpools - i like the overall design actually. its nice and better than maytag has made in years - the crappy Amana my aunt had was 3 years old and they said to junk it! At least Whirlpool has a better reputation and the name is being preserved with some sort of quality behind it...

Post# 191610 , Reply# 17   2/16/2007 at 16:53 (4,480 days old) by geextrarinse (Hudson Valley, New York )        
inside the same....

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i miss the days when all the little parts were branded as well - like ge's filter flo or the whirlpool symbol on top of the surgilators

Post# 191942 , Reply# 18   2/17/2007 at 19:48 (4,479 days old) by westyslantfront ()        

I was at Christie's Appliance store here in Tucson today.
I also saw a center dial WHIRLPOOL, just like the whirltag.
Tub and agitator the same, everything the same except the name label on the control panel.


Post# 192871 , Reply# 19   2/22/2007 at 14:42 (4,474 days old) by gadgetgary (Bristol,CT)        
How Very very sad....

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Went to Blowe's today...Saw the new and improved
'center-dial' Maypools. What a joke. Whirlpool lid, whirlpool inside, Whirlpool agitator....Yada, Yada, Yada.

Even stated on the control panel a step-down wash pattern in the cycle.

And the dryer.....Whirlpool top-mounted lint screen.

It was so sad to see the Maytag name on that product.

Post# 192878 , Reply# 20   2/22/2007 at 15:08 (4,474 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains)        
what are the idiot managers at whirlpool thinking?

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You have to wonder. People who bought "real" Maytags usually knew a bit about quality. Whirlpool might get them to buy once...but when the machines fail quickly, those customers will be angry. And they sure won't go back to Whirlpool.
Their customers deserve better. Either make them top-of-the-line good machines or just kill the brand off.
Either way. Just don't label and Whirlmore "Maytag".

Post# 193033 , Reply# 21   2/23/2007 at 07:21 (4,473 days old) by seeitrun2006 (Clemmons, North Carolina, USA)        
New Whirltags

No use in complaining about Whirltags or Maypools. I saw them at Home Depot yesterday also. It is certainly an improving over the pieces of crap Maytag was having made and selling.

Yeah it's sad we cannot have the old Maytag style and quality back. We had a 512A an the matching 512G gas dryer for nearly 20 years with no problems. When they conked out in 2005 (plus I didn't know aobut AWO club at the time) we replaced them with GE's only because they were on sale at Home Depot. Outside of that it was hard to make a decision on trying to buy a washer.

Post# 193048 , Reply# 22   2/23/2007 at 08:44 (4,473 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains)        

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Actually, complaining does, occasionally help. One of the advertisers in the NY-Times had pop-ups which drove me to distraction.
Complained, they actually took my complaint seriously, the advertiser changed them.
I don't know the ratio of success to failure...but you definitely have no chance at all if you just do nothing.
Dell has now improved their customer service (ok, that is still not saying much...a 1000% improvement would just barely bring them up to god-awful bad). But they would never have if consumers had not told them: I bought my new computer from someone else because of your bad service.

Post# 193079 , Reply# 23   2/23/2007 at 12:08 (4,473 days old) by seeitrun2006 (Clemmons, North Carolina, USA)        

Oh I completely agree about complaining if I get bad service. We have a Maytag dishwasher MDB6000AWB which we puchased almost 9 years ago for our new house. From the get-go it would not clean items in the top rack. I called Maytag I bet you 10 times as to what was wrong. Same script each time! I chewed out the person on the recorded phone call and hung the last time I called. I took it upon my self to pull off the bottom panel to investigate myself as to what was going on. The machine was not level so it not wash properly. Got it level and fixed the problem. A couple of days later I received a call from Maytag about my being irrate on the phone from them. I told the person that Maytag had the worst customer service I had ever dealt with. She appoligized but then continued with thanks for calling Maytag over and over just like a robot. No offer to make it right! Nothing!

The BestBuy stores here in GA even cancelled their contract with Maytag due to their lack of customer service and abuse to the consumer from one of BestBuy's sales staff.

I guess my point is the Maytags we all grew up with and loved is in a era long gone. I'm like you I don't like the way the Maytag company was dissected and done away with either.

I hope I didn't up set anyone with my earlier comments!


Post# 193101 , Reply# 24   2/23/2007 at 13:35 (4,473 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains)        

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Don't sweat it.
Except for a few (not all, most are great people) folks in the UK who delight in attacking and flaming, everyone here is pretty accepting of passion and opinions.
I mean, let's face it: We are all passionate about our machines and our views. I love real Frigidaires and deny the existence of any TL by that name after White bought them. They are like push up briefs...false advertising.
And we all know how much I love Whirlpool. Not.
I devoured repair manuals on Maytags 30 years ago. Today I think they should have buried the company with a stake through their manager's hearts. They screwed the workers, shareholders and customers something awful...and there I go again.
Get well soon!

Post# 193118 , Reply# 25   2/23/2007 at 15:38 (4,473 days old) by dadoes (TX,U.S. of A.)        

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There sure is a lot of misdirected anger flying around here!

If Maytag will never be again what it once was, that's not Whirlpool's fault. It's MAYTAG's fault.

Whirlpool has a strong history of reliability (a few glitches along the way notwithstanding -- the same can be said about Frigidaire, GE, pretty much all the manufacturers). Whirlpool is good enough to have been associated with Sears/Kenmore virtually f-o-r-e-v-e-r.

One cannot realistically expect Whirlpool to revive/maintain the classic Maytag design, when Maytag couldn't do it themselves. I'm sure there are internal logistic and business concerns and issues that contra such an effort. Traditional toploader design probably has its days numbered anyway by the environmental watchdogs, so Whirlpool would be shooting itself in the foot to buy Maytag and maintain or gear-up separate manufacturing facilities, parts inventory, etc. for multiple mechanical designs. Like it or not, cost/finances/economics are the bottom line for ANY company.

Post# 193123 , Reply# 26   2/23/2007 at 16:09 (4,473 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains)        
since I am successfully self-employed

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I do know a bit about the bottom line. I work in an extremely competitive sector; my customers can always get good work for less money elsewhere.
So I keep them by providing reliable, high-quality work and outstanding customer service. I am convinced of the maxim: Acquisition is 100 times harder than maintenance. I add new customers, but know that repeat business and word-of-mouth is what will keep the money flowing over the long term.
After Whirlpool did the dirty on Bauknecht, their profits and market share fell. The bottom line is, too many managers (not only in the US) treat the shareholders, workers and consumers like sh** and enrich themselves by destroying the company.

The only way to enhance short-term profits in a captital intensive industry is by artificially enhancing the share price. Since the manager's remuneration is tied to this (and since their contracts protect them from their mistakes) they gut the company and pocket the profit.

This is not misdirected anger, I am a capitalist. If you want the Chinese to do to the white goods what the Japanese did to the car industry, then keep trotting out the old, weary lines. Meanwhile the competitors are positioning themselves to offer the consumers higher quality and (in the beginning) lower prices.

Post# 193605 , Reply# 27   2/25/2007 at 21:06 (4,471 days old) by andrewinorlando ()        

Went to Sears yesterday and saw the latest Maypool washer with Stainless Steel tub for about $679. Looks to be good build quality, similar to the porcelain tub models. Maybe Whirlpool will work to make Maytag the premium washer line of the group??

The new Admiral washers available at Homo Depot have also adopted the Whirlpool platform, though with a plastic tub instead of porcelain. At least the machine does feel solid inside.

Now if Whirlpool would give Maytag the old KitchenAid wash system with the larger agitator and the slower stroke....since no one seems to be using that design at this time!!

Post# 193613 , Reply# 28   2/25/2007 at 21:19 (4,471 days old) by gadgetgary (Bristol,CT)        

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Has gone to a 360 degree stroke...

Just click on the 'Hydro-wave' wash system


Post# 193786 , Reply# 29   2/26/2007 at 18:40 (4,470 days old) by andrewinorlando ()        

Gary -

They came out a few months ago, and they are very, very quiet. No high speed spin yet, though. Only 640 RPM at this point. But they are quite inexpensive, and seem to be well built.

Post# 194085 , Reply# 30   2/28/2007 at 01:54 (4,468 days old) by mavei511 ()        
What Whirlpool did to Maytag...

...Just like when Studebaker bought Packard?
For the last two years of its life,rebadged Studebakers were sold as Packards after Studebaker shut down the Packard plant.

Post# 194173 , Reply# 31   2/28/2007 at 12:14 (4,468 days old) by whirlcool (Just North Of Houston, Texas)        

I was in Lowes yesterday and saw the new Whirltags. For some reason, there was a little bit of that blue painters masking tape over the "Maytag" nameplate on all of the new center dial machines.
I couldn't figure out why that was done. Was it Lowes, a angry customer, or just left over protective cover from the factory that was covering the nameplate.

Post# 194395 , Reply# 32   3/1/2007 at 21:30 (4,467 days old) by johnb300m (Chicago)        

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sounds like negligence in removing the protective tape to keep the chrome Maytag logo all shiny.

go remove them.

Post# 194415 , Reply# 33   3/2/2007 at 03:04 (4,466 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains)        

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I am not so sure it was negligence, I bet someone there in sales saw a serious loss of repeat business (something homo-depot needs).
Don't remove them. Maybe a little rubber stamp would be interesting, you could stamp them:
Or such.

Post# 194451 , Reply# 34   3/2/2007 at 09:17 (4,466 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, the Netherlands)        

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There are finally two models on the Home Depot website. I like the design of the control panel!

Post# 194454 , Reply# 35   3/2/2007 at 09:24 (4,466 days old) by exploder3211 ()        

That one looks alright.. I could live with that

Post# 194459 , Reply# 36   3/2/2007 at 09:45 (4,466 days old) by gadgetgary (Bristol,CT)        
Isn't if funny...

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There is nothing on the Maytag site about it yet!

Post# 194460 , Reply# 37   3/2/2007 at 10:06 (4,466 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, the Netherlands)        

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There have been made some changes on the Maytag website. Strange thing is that the Atlantis models are both on top and at the bottom. Some models have disappeared. I bet the new ones will be on the website soon.

Post# 194461 , Reply# 38   3/2/2007 at 10:12 (4,466 days old) by gadgetgary (Bristol,CT)        

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And that last Dependable Care model...LAV.....has vanished from the website.

Post# 194475 , Reply# 39   3/2/2007 at 11:58 (4,466 days old) by danemodsandy (The Bramford, Apt. 7-E)        
Mon Dieu!

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That actually LOOKS like a Maytag.

Post# 194476 , Reply# 40   3/2/2007 at 12:09 (4,466 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, the Netherlands)        

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Yes, isn't it scary how much it looks like an older center dial Maytag? Perhaps a different agitator than the corkscrew would make it quite a nostalgic machine.

Lowes still has the LAV3600 on their site, including the matching dryers.

Post# 194479 , Reply# 41   3/2/2007 at 12:17 (4,466 days old) by danemodsandy (The Bramford, Apt. 7-E)        
The Downside...

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There is one possible problem with making new Whirlmananorgepooltags look so much like the beloved centre-dial Maytags of old. People associate that look with genuine quality, and if they're disappointed, it can generate real resentment. I know someone with a new Mustang, purchased specifically because it so strongly reminded its purchaser of his beloved 1970 model. He has had nothing but problem after problem, and I think he's madder than he would be otherwise, since the disappointing new car is styled to look so much like the good old reliable ones he remembers.

I really think the way for Whirly to go with Maytag is as a premium line, with extra design and build quality.

Post# 194488 , Reply# 42   3/2/2007 at 12:46 (4,466 days old) by runematic (southcentral pa)        

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The blue tape on the logo comes standard from WP.

Post# 194504 , Reply# 43   3/2/2007 at 14:18 (4,466 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains)        

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You are absolutely correct.
I am a big fan of the "real" DUAL Hi-Fi products. About 10 years ago, I made the mistake of buying a very well styled radio/cd player.
One of the biggest pieces of junk I have ever seen. My mistake, I should have checked - but that was precisely what the manufacturer looked and felt on the outside like DUAL, but inside it was just trash. The brand name had been sold to some cheap outfit in the far east.
Upshot? I never, ever buy DUAL or AEG or any of the other household stuff on the market now-a-days. Once burned, twice shy.
Whirlpool's marketing idiots are obviously drinking their own joy-juice, no other way to explain this.
Put Maytag away for a few years. Let some grass grow over their grave. Then resurrect them as a genuinely high-quality, premium priced brand.
The US market was protected for far too long. The only thing keeping consumers "true" to their domestic brands is the lack of experience with the good foreign brands (and stupidity like LGs customer service). As soon as the consumers realize that the US brands no longer are better - just more expensive - that will be all she wrote.
Was that way with consumer electronics. Is that way with cars. But it just does not seem to be a lesson worth the learning in the domestic industry.

Post# 194528 , Reply# 44   3/2/2007 at 15:46 (4,466 days old) by dadoes (TX,U.S. of A.)        

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That looks nice!

Post# 194703 , Reply# 45   3/3/2007 at 19:16 (4,465 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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~Mon Dieu!
That actually LOOKS like a Maytag.

Until you raise the lid!

Post# 194712 , Reply# 46   3/3/2007 at 19:32 (4,465 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

I know the quality of the machines is probably better with the Whirlpool innards, but it's no more a Maytag than my new Frigidaire TL is really a Frigidaire.

I'll never forget making my first washer purchase in 1984. I was finally replacing the Kenmore Model 80 my parents had since I was an infant. And damn it, I was FINALLY, going to get myself a Frigidaire washer! Much to my dismay, I opened what looked like a Frigidaire washer and my heart sank. Wound up buying a Whirlpool with a winged Surgilator instead.

Post# 196056 , Reply# 47   3/9/2007 at 03:49 (4,459 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, the Netherlands)        

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The new Whirltags or Maypools are now on the Maytag website. TOL is a three speed model.

CLICK HERE TO GO TO foraloysius's LINK

Post# 196082 , Reply# 48   3/9/2007 at 07:37 (4,459 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        
Centennial Models

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Stainless steel basket, three speed and the dial is die-cast metal - plus the commercial upgrades in coupler and baseframe (?). I'll be that's a handsome machine to see.

Post# 196090 , Reply# 49   3/9/2007 at 08:17 (4,459 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, the Netherlands)        

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Unfortunately the matching dryer doesn't look as good. Doesn't that door come from a cheaper Whirlpool range?

Post# 196106 , Reply# 50   3/9/2007 at 09:31 (4,459 days old) by pulsator (Saint Joseph, MI)        

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What's this? They changed the arc??? It's not much, but it's progress!!!

"100 Arc of Agitation produces a sweeping arc motion that gently rolls clothes through the wash water."

Post# 196140 , Reply# 51   3/9/2007 at 13:25 (4,459 days old) by dadoes (TX,U.S. of A.)        

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100 arc isn't what Whirly DD trannys already have been doing?

Post# 196153 , Reply# 52   3/9/2007 at 13:46 (4,459 days old) by danemodsandy (The Bramford, Apt. 7-E)        
Dryer Door

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Yep, that's Whirly all right. That was one of the things I never liked about my DD Whirlys- the washer lid handle and the dryer door handle looked cheap.

Only because they WERE cheap, you understand...

Post# 196173 , Reply# 53   3/9/2007 at 14:56 (4,459 days old) by dadoes (TX,U.S. of A.)        

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Haven't Maytag dryer doors always been side-swing? I suppose Whirlpool is following the pattern. There's the Neppy (and Atlantis?) door design, but the Performa is very similiar, and so are some others.

Post# 196180 , Reply# 54   3/9/2007 at 15:19 (4,459 days old) by danemodsandy (The Bramford, Apt. 7-E)        
Maytag Knob

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Maytag always used a side-swing door, also true for many Whirlys, so that part looks fine to me. It would be a nice touch, though, if Whirlpool would put the Maytag chrome knob on Maytag models.

Probably won't happen- the die that stamps Whirly dryer doors is probably set up to punch out the opening for the Whirly handle all at one go. Putting the Maytag knob on the door would require a whole new die and a separate production run to make doors for Maytag-branded units, which is ex-freakin'-SPENSIVE.

Post# 196182 , Reply# 55   3/9/2007 at 15:20 (4,459 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, the Netherlands)        

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Yes, side swing is good. But IMHO the door is positioned too low in the cabinet. Somehow that looks like a cheap design to me. The newer Whirlpools have the door slightly higher in the cabinet, which would look more like a genuine Maytag design.

This Whirlpool has a slightly different door, but looks much better I think.

Post# 196193 , Reply# 56   3/9/2007 at 15:55 (4,459 days old) by pulsator (Saint Joseph, MI)        

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I always thought it was a 90 degree stroke...

Post# 196200 , Reply# 57   3/9/2007 at 16:16 (4,459 days old) by danemodsandy (The Bramford, Apt. 7-E)        

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Hey, Jamie!

Has Whirlpool hired you as an engineer yet?

I think that's where you're headed...

Post# 197674 , Reply# 58   3/15/2007 at 19:12 (4,453 days old) by neptunebob (Pittsburgh, PA)        
I don't like it....

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Saw the new "Maytag" at Sears and I think the Whirlpool and Kenmores are better. The stainless steel tub of the new Maytag has a nasty seam at the side and the holes seemed kinda sharp. There was an Atlantis (norgetag) there and the stainless steel was smoother. The Kenmore had a much smoother porcelain tub and I liked the control panel of the Whirlpool better. They better do something about the tub if they hope to sell any, I find it a real turn off.

Post# 197692 , Reply# 59   3/15/2007 at 21:12 (4,453 days old) by peteski50 (New York)        
Whirltag Or Maypool

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I just saw the new models at PC Richards today. Actually I do like the way the control panel was setup with the center dial.
But sadly when opening it their was a shreadmore! (SUX)
But if you wish on a Star like I did maybe in another place and another time out of this world it may have the same nice styling with a pulsator going up / down inside and of cource with a big viewing window. (Keep Wishing)

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