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Thread Number: 10644
Questions about Kenmore High-Speed Dryers |
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| Post# 194256 2/28/2007 at 23:24 (6,259 days old) by powerfin64 (Yakima, Washington) | ||
I have a question about one of my dryers. In my collection, I have a '64 Kenmore Model 70 HIGH SPEED and a '65 Kenmore Lady K Senor Dry Dryer. Both have: OLD style grated back drum(think of a GE Dryer style drum), 6000 watt element, and exhaust fan, and drum light. '64 model 70 has infinite heat selection(Air, Delicate, warm, Medium, Wash 'n wear, High) but is not a soft heat model. '65 Lady K Sensor Dry is a Soft heat model, 2 heat settings, (Air and Heat), but is not labeled High Speed, even thou it has the same fan as my Model 70. So, my questions are: 1. What qualifys as a High Speed dryer? Is it the Fan, or 6000 watt element Or Both?? 2. Is my Lady K Sensor Dry dryer, a High Speed model even though its NOT labeled as one? Just curious to find out what everone thinks. Rich | ||
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| Post# 194287 , Reply# 1 3/1/2007 at 06:58 (6,258 days old) by mayken4now (Panama City, Florida) | ||
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Post# 194289 , Reply# 2 3/1/2007 at 07:27 (6,258 days old) by jamiel  (Detroit, Michigan and Palm Springs, CA) |
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Add to that, is the only difference on the gas high speed dryers the high-input "infinite" burner which keeps the temperature in the drum higher longer until it moves to cool-down? Someone said that the high-speed burner would keep a constant 160 degrees in the drum where the non-high-speed would cycle from 160-125-160-125. Why did they kill off the high-speed?
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| Post# 194381 , Reply# 4 3/1/2007 at 19:49 (6,258 days old) by powerfin64 (Yakima, Washington) | ||
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Interesting Information..
Good question Jamie. I'm thinking a reason they killed off the "high-speed" models was to bring in more efficient models.(The High-Speed design has its flaws) I didn't know about the 2 heating elements in them, but that really makes more sense about the soft heat proceedure. My question still remains about my Lady K.. High Speed or not? Or was High Speed not a option for the Lady K models? Rich | ||
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Post# 194427 , Reply# 5 3/2/2007 at 08:02 (6,257 days old) by jamiel (Detroit, Michigan and Palm Springs, CA) |
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Curious about the flaws. I've got a 1959 (as I recall) Consumer Reports buying guide which talks about a 28 minute cycle for the Kenmore and the Philco which seems just blazing fast. I'm trying to remember-we had about a 1965 white electric lower-end Kenmore dryer (5 heats, 3 timed cycles (normal w/5 min cooldown, w&w with 10 min cooldown, delicate with 5 min cooldown). Seems to me that the fins were formed into the metal (I got to stick the Free & Soft on the fin). Neighbor had a 1963 Soft Heat gas coppertone which matched her washer (70 series as I recall) (and also matched my mom's) with only two cycles (timed and air)...she had the air freshener bottle on it and the sprinkler ball. My grandmother had about a 1968 RCA Whirlpool gas(must have been about the last gasp of RCA) with the full width door, full width slanted console, plastic timer dial (with Tumble Press on it...that always fascinated me). It had electronic ignition that went out about every 18 months my grandfather had to sand the contacts until finally there wasn't much electrode left, then he bought a service contract and let them fix it. He thought it was a flawed design and didn't have any scruples about letting them buy the igniter unit :) | ||
| Post# 194559 , Reply# 7 3/2/2007 at 21:12 (6,257 days old) by powerfin64 (Yakima, Washington) | ||
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Nature of the Beast..
I will agree to a extent, the high speed models are very good but, there is one feature on them that does create a small problem. That is the lint filter system. Lint is to be pulled through the back of the rotating perforated part of the drum, into the fan to be blown up in to lint filter. Over time, lint that didn't make it to the fan,(keep in mind there is a small gap BETWEEN the back of the perforated drum AND the bulkhead where the heater and exhaust fan is) ends up at the bottom underneath of the machine, covering the motor and base plate. I have taken apart 2 high speed dryers(1 Kenmore and 1 Whirlpool) that had come in at a buddys appliance shop, that had accumilated lint all over the baseplate and motor.(I kept the Kenmore, which is the '65 Lady K meantioned above) My '64 Kenmore Model 70 will run for about 20 minutes, before the motor overheats and shuts off, due to lint accumilation on the motor(just needs to be vacuumed out) Other than that, I have no complaints. Rich | ||
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Post# 194781 , Reply# 8 3/4/2007 at 00:19 (6,256 days old) by neptunebob (Pittsburgh, PA) |
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Were Kenmore dryers faster than a "Halo of Heat"? It seems to me that most dryers today have the back of the drum stationary, would that not be hard on clothes (especially polyester of the 70s)? I notice that Frigidaire and White Westinghouse dryers have the back of the cylinder that moves but those dryers seem incredibly hot. They don't use 50 amps, do they?
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Post# 194794 , Reply# 9 3/4/2007 at 03:08 (6,255 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains) |
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quality determines
I don't think it really matters as long as the drum is properly assembled. The cost of bolting together a thin strip of metal with a few pieces of plastic to lift and separate then squeezing it between a solid disk and the machine front is much less than producing a proper drum. You also have the question of bearings to deal with. The thin, light drum rests its weight on the seals at the front and back (yes, there are usually plastic gliders at the points of contact). The solid drums need a center bearing, making the machine deeper and requiring a much more stable structure. But, done right, both can run for many decades. Synthetic fabrics in the early days were even more sensitive to thermal shock and snagging than today. Careful placement of the heating elements, blower and drum rotation (reversal every few rotations for instance) together with sensible heat management and moisture controlled drying are more important than the construction of the drum. Obviously, it is easier to design for synthetics and then accept a longer drying time for cottons than it is to use the high-speed designs of the 1960's. Kinda sad, really. Of course, now that more and more US machines are beginning to actually spin dry clothes (400rpm is a sick joke) I imagine subjective dryer performance is improving considerably. | ||
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Post# 194942 , Reply# 10 3/4/2007 at 21:41 (6,255 days old) by neptunebob (Pittsburgh, PA) |
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I kind of wondered if the Maytag was as faster as the Kenmore hi speed dryer because I heard people here refer to it as the "Halo from Hell" so it must have been pretty hot. Would it be as hot as a Frigidaire or WW dryer of today. I had a GE dryer that was WW and it was hot as the devil and made the meter whizz by.
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| Post# 194951 , Reply# 11 3/4/2007 at 22:14 (6,255 days old) by powerfin64 (Yakima, Washington) | ||
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I think..
they're about the same as far as drying speed goes, but, I will say my '64 kenmore model 70 is pretty HOT!(Keep in mind, these have a 6000 watt electric element in them, compared to the 5400(?) watt elements in todays macines.It makes a BIG differace!) I had a 60's Maytag Highlander dryer, and it too was a HOT beast. Rich | ||
| Post# 194952 , Reply# 12 3/4/2007 at 22:17 (6,255 days old) by danemodsandy (The Bramford, Apt. 7-E) | ||
Halo from Hell | ||
| Post# 195050 , Reply# 13 3/5/2007 at 11:55 (6,254 days old) by spinout (Phoenix) | ||
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If anything, the halo of heat dryers are known for being slow. It was not Maytag's best design for several reasons--including performance, which was generally poor. | ||
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Post# 195197 , Reply# 14 3/6/2007 at 07:48 (6,253 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) |
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I absolutely love my 1957 LK High Speed Dryer. I do have it connected to a 50AMP line (8600 watt element) and sheets can be dried out of a Unimatic in less than 5 minutes. The wonderful thing about this dryer is it has a infinite heat setting from Low-Warm-Med-High. Just because its 50AMPs don't assume its a very hot dryer because it is not. What the 50AMP circuit does is gets the dryer up to it's operating temperature very fast and can hold it there easier than a 30AMP dryer. Most things can be dried anywhere from Low to Warm in less than 30 minutes. This dryer and the Frigidaire Filtrator are my two favorites. 
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Post# 195200 , Reply# 15 3/6/2007 at 08:03 (6,253 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!) |
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Post# 195214 , Reply# 16 3/6/2007 at 09:56 (6,253 days old) by neptunebob (Pittsburgh, PA) |
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| Post# 195393 , Reply# 17 3/6/2007 at 23:45 (6,253 days old) by powerfin64 (Yakima, Washington) | ||
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I too use Low(Delicate)and warm on my '64 High Speed model 70 Kenmore dryer. Most items are dried in 15-45 minutes, depending on whats being dried and heat setting. I personally don't use anything higher than the "warm" setting on the '64 model 70.(I think of it as a High Setting and "Delicate" as Low.) With 6000 watt element, things get dried faster. I can't imagine 8600 watts to dry clothes with! count to 30, and there done? Rich | ||
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