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Post# 194506   3/2/2007 at 14:37 (6,257 days old) by bewitched (Italy)        

Hello everybody. Here are some pictures taken during our last wash in held during the last weekend of february. Useless to say we had great fun! Here are Riccardo and Enrico dismantling an Aeg Clara to change tub bearings...




Post# 194508 , Reply# 1   3/2/2007 at 14:40 (6,257 days old) by bewitched (Italy)        

Removing faulty bearings revealed itself to be a hard work...

Post# 194511 , Reply# 2   3/2/2007 at 14:43 (6,257 days old) by bewitched (Italy)        

Marco,Riccardo and Nicola repairing an old Miele G 590 dishwasher...

Post# 194512 , Reply# 3   3/2/2007 at 14:45 (6,257 days old) by bewitched (Italy)        

Enrico soaking inside the washer...

Post# 194513 , Reply# 4   3/2/2007 at 14:47 (6,257 days old) by bewitched (Italy)        

After a huge italian style lunch a nice bobload in the Miele G 690

Post# 194514 , Reply# 5   3/2/2007 at 14:48 (6,257 days old) by bewitched (Italy)        

Ready to go...

Post# 194515 , Reply# 6   3/2/2007 at 14:54 (6,257 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains)        
Hey!

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That's the Miele bottom rack for Italy, isn't it? The one which is extra well laid out for bigger pots?
Looked like you all were having fun. Thanks for sharing!
Wish you'd add comments to our threads more often, some of the most interesting vintage equipment is Italian.


Post# 194516 , Reply# 7   3/2/2007 at 14:58 (6,257 days old) by bewitched (Italy)        

Hi panthera! The machine was bought through ebay in Germany so it's a standard Germany equipment. Anyway it's identical to my G 696 machine I bought here in Italy. I also have a G 45. That is really vintage! I will try to post pictures of it when I get back to my little chalet in the woods...

Post# 194519 , Reply# 8   3/2/2007 at 15:13 (6,257 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains)        
Marco,

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Hmm, it does seem deeper than mine - same series. I would not trade my Miele for anything. So much better built than anything else, washes so very very well. Do post pictures when you can!

Post# 194525 , Reply# 9   3/2/2007 at 15:43 (6,257 days old) by bewitched (Italy)        

I completely agree with you... I had a Bosch before this Miele and it washed well but not so good like the Miele. My other dishwasher is the G 1830, a great machine... Unfortunately most people here facing the problem of buying a new machine think that with the price of a Miele machine they can buy 4 ordinary diswasher or washers as well...

Post# 194527 , Reply# 10   3/2/2007 at 15:45 (6,257 days old) by bewitched (Italy)        

ooops... I forgot the picture...

Post# 194531 , Reply# 11   3/2/2007 at 16:20 (6,257 days old) by westyslantfront ()        

Congratulations to the Italian contingent on your Wash In
Italian style. Sure wish you could join us later in the month for Tucson, Arizona Wash In.


Ross


Post# 194533 , Reply# 12   3/2/2007 at 16:21 (6,257 days old) by westyslantfront ()        

Where in Italy did you hold the Wash In?


Ross


Post# 194558 , Reply# 13   3/2/2007 at 21:10 (6,256 days old) by petek (Ontari ari ari O )        

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Wow looks like more fun that visiting some stuffy old museum or basilica LOL. Makes me miss my Miele even more :(
I think it was a G864, terrible now I can't remember but here's a pic too far away..that's a Kenmore garbage compactor sitting at the end of the cabinet..we gave it to the neighbors when we moved, it was already about 30 years old and used to be avocado green or coppertone till I painted it white.


Post# 194564 , Reply# 14   3/2/2007 at 21:47 (6,256 days old) by tlee618 ()        

It looks like you guys had a great time. Thanks so much for sharing the pictures!! Loved the one of Enrico in the machine. It reminded me of a old I love Lucy Show where Lucy was inside a TV.

Post# 194574 , Reply# 15   3/2/2007 at 23:16 (6,256 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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How fun! Would love to see some pics of the older Miele dishwashers - they really look like they're built like tanks.

I was just looking at a similar Miele online tonight - it looks beautiful! Do you like the cutlery tray/rack?


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Post# 194601 , Reply# 16   3/3/2007 at 03:37 (6,256 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains)        
I threw mine out

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Mine washed just fine, but I like being able to wash pots and pans in the upper rack...something the Mieles do just as well as in the bottom rack. So I swapped the bottom rack with the cutlery holder for the flat rack at the top with a friend who liked them.
She is happy, I am happy.
Except for falling down the stairs, I have never had a problem....goodness, 24 years using Miele dishwashers!


Post# 194604 , Reply# 17   3/3/2007 at 07:27 (6,256 days old) by bewitched (Italy)        

Hello Ross, sure we would love to be at your wash in! I remember the first thing I did when I came in your beautiful country ,was opening the lid of my friend's washer and inserting a pencil to actuate the safety switch and see how it worked! Since the washer and dryer were in the bathroom he was completely unaware about what I was doing inside for a so long time... I can't remember the brand. Instead I remember the dishwasher very well. It was a Kitchen Aid Superba de luxe. Really superb!We hold the wash in in a small cabin I own in the woods surrounding Florence. The cabin is really small but there is enough space outside to hold the small amount of "junk" we carry during our meetings.
Pete your Miele seems a ten to fifteen years a go, isn't it. Did it have the third rack (cutlery tray)? I don't think I understood what a garbage disposal is... It looks like a small stove or a gas furnace to me.
Hi Gansky, all the Miele i owned used to have the third rack. We all in my family find it extremely useful. You don't have to mess with dirty cutlery or sharp knives. The space on the rack below is good enough to hold not so tall dishes or casseroles. Anyway you can adjust the eight of the second rack to suit your needs. The "perla" looks exactly the same as my G 1830 sci. It's extremely quiet and really doess a great job.
More photos about the wash in will be posted soon...


Post# 194608 , Reply# 18   3/3/2007 at 07:43 (6,256 days old) by westyslantfront ()        

Hi Marco. I was in Florence many years ago. It is a beautiful city. A great place for a wash in. Sure hope we can all meet some day.



Ross in sunny Tucson, Arizona


Post# 194624 , Reply# 19   3/3/2007 at 09:55 (6,256 days old) by revvinkevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land)        
Enrico soaking inside the washer...

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I just LOVE that photo!!!!!!!!!!! Very funny!!!

Post# 194633 , Reply# 20   3/3/2007 at 10:42 (6,256 days old) by vivalalavatrice ()        
A tear of happyness drop onto my chek ;-)

GREAT! I'can't explain none of my fellings now with any words...SIMPLY GREAT!

This very amazing Italian group of friends (we would call it "cerchia di amici") was born after the idea of me to create a blog online to share my very strong love for washer's world.

I cannot imagine that after nearly 10 years I've been arriving on Automaticwasher.org all this would ever been happned!

BLAST I couldn't have been there but honestly THANKS ALL GUYS! I'm proud of you...

Good Bye and hear you soon!
Diomede

PS: "Hai visto Marco che ti dicevo che avrebbero apprezzato molto divertiti!?! E perchè non accettare di andare tutti in America come ci invitano a fare?!?! :-DD MAGARI!"


Post# 194658 , Reply# 21   3/3/2007 at 14:23 (6,256 days old) by petek (Ontari ari ari O )        

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I believe we bought the Miele around 1995 maybe 1994 I just can't remember exactly now. It didn't have the cutlery rack.
The garbage compactor uses an electric ram to crush your garbage to about 1/4 the size. The front of the cabinet slides out open and you can put in either plastic or heavy paper bags inside that are especially designed for the machine. Very handy when you don't have garbage pickup at your house and need to take everything to the dump yourself.


Post# 194665 , Reply# 22   3/3/2007 at 15:07 (6,256 days old) by brisnat81 (Brisbane Australia)        
Love the cuttlery Rack

Hi Greg,

We've got the G2220 model and love the cuttlery rack.

We find it slightly slower to load (Although you get quick at dropping the pieces in place) but if you group like items with like, it takes 20 seconds to unload. You just scoop up a handful of forks and drop them in the drawer.

The dishwasher that Marco has, (At least in AU) has a split cuttlery tray, so you can remove 1/3 and gain an extra 5cm of height in 1/3 of the upper rack. The model we have, has a solid tray. With careful loading we get most things in the upper rack.

The only accessory I've contemplated, is the large plate insert for the bottom basket. The standard basket holds plates up to 31cm with the basket in the upper position. The large plate insert takes the maximum size up to 35cm without compromising space in the upper basket. I usually leave the upper basket in the middle position, which gives me 29cm in the bottom and 21cm in the top. This seems to hold most things that it needs to. If I'm ever baking plenty and need the extra room up top, I just remove the cuttlery tray.


Post# 194679 , Reply# 23   3/3/2007 at 17:05 (6,255 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Great that there are meetings in Italy too. It's always great to meet other people with in interest in appliances.

The AEG Clara, is that actually a Zanussi? I never saw that model.

Greg, remember the old Miele dishwasher I found? That was a G45 too. Here's the link to the pictures once more.


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Post# 194815 , Reply# 24   3/4/2007 at 09:09 (6,255 days old) by bewitched (Italy)        

Hi Ross, yes Florence is a beautiful place to visit but not to live!!! believe me. We must live in respect of things that are many many centuries old and that causes abvious limitations. Constant traffic crowd is only one not to mention pollution, the parking is a simple nightmare. You could pay just around 20 dollars to park your car for eight hours(if you find a place which is not so easy at all...). We have offices in historical buildings which are very very uneasy to reach especially for older or impaired people. I do often have to reach offices at fourth or fifth floor of historical buildings having no elevators... argh!
I never saw a garbage compactor. Sure it would be of great utility here too. I once saw a strange thing placed under the sink. It was operated via a switch placed on the front of the kitchen cabinet. My friend told me it is used to chop soft food residues that are expelled via the drain. A very clever machine!
My G 1830 diswasher has a split cutlery tray. If you need more room to place long stem glasses then you can remove one third of the cutlery tray. It also has a separated basket which can be inserted in the upper basket to hold baby bottles or parts of the Miele coffee maker. I never used it.
The Aeg Clara is a pure Zanussi machine. Almost everything except the drum and the cabinet are plastic. It's not older than eight years but very complicate to disassemble!
I didn't start to restore the G 45 mainly because I don't know where to find a correct power supply for it. I believe it runs on 380V three phases only.


Post# 194816 , Reply# 25   3/4/2007 at 09:16 (6,255 days old) by bewitched (Italy)        
last pictures of our wash in

This is the picture of a very strange machine I own. It's a Novamatic Fust but it seems actually made by Eudora in Switzerland. It's really tiny, it seems a toy washer but it has many wash options and it washes really very well.

Post# 194819 , Reply# 26   3/4/2007 at 09:20 (6,255 days old) by bewitched (Italy)        

The Miele dryer we used to dry the loads we washed at our wash in.
It's a T 382 i found years ago in the curb. It should be almost 20 years old now.


Post# 194824 , Reply# 27   3/4/2007 at 09:51 (6,255 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Marco,

The G45 is a multiple voltage machine, it was designed to run on three phase 380V, three phase 220V and single phase 220V, so you should be able to use it. I sold mine to somebody in Frankfurt who restored it and uses it now as an every day machine. Here's a picture of the G45 in his kitchen.


Post# 194865 , Reply# 28   3/4/2007 at 13:59 (6,255 days old) by bewitched (Italy)        

Wonderful! A g 45 in working order!!! Do you have any idea where to find the schematic to modify the circuitry to fit our 220v single phase power supply?

Post# 194870 , Reply# 29   3/4/2007 at 14:23 (6,255 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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No, I'm sorry, I don't know about that. Perhaps you could contact Miele, it's possible that they still have documents for these machines.

Post# 194889 , Reply# 30   3/4/2007 at 16:50 (6,254 days old) by westyslantfront ()        

Hi Marco. The garbage disposer is very common here. It is attached to the sink drain. Put food in it, run the water, and turn the disposer on. It will liquify the food waste so it can flow down the drain into the sewer. Almost everyone here in Arizona has one. It was the same when I lived in California.
But I am originally from New York City, born there in 1952. I first moved to Palm Springs, California in 1997 and then to Tucson, Arizona in 2005.
As for New York City, we said the same thing. It is a nice place to visit but you would not want to live there. A lot of traffic and very congested. Tucson is getting congested with 1 million people and very few highways. Getting around town is all local streets, but I do like it here.
In 1972, I did the grand tour of Italy: Milan, Venice, Pisa, Florence, Rome, Sorrento/Capri, and finally Stresa.
I went to Germany alot because I worked for Deutsche Lufthansa for 26 years in New York.
Sure hope some of the Italian contingent will someday get to a Tucson Wash In. I hope we will do them every year.


Ross



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