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Made in Deutschland, German washer pic thread
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Post# 196305   3/10/2007 at 02:42 (6,256 days old) by robm (Buxted)        

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Hi all

It's time to get out all your Miele's, Bosch, AEG, Bauknecht and any other german makes.

I think most will agree that Germany have produced some great and well built machines. My personal favorites are early AEG's and Miele. Here are some pics to get us started.

Happy viewing

Rob

First pic is a 1990s Bauknecht. This machine was brilliant, very well made and sturdy.





Post# 196306 , Reply# 1   3/10/2007 at 02:44 (6,256 days old) by robm (Buxted)        

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This is my Bosch in London. I am selling my flat and this is going with it. Quite well built but a bit noisy. Very screechy motor. Not sure this was really built in Germany.

Post# 196307 , Reply# 2   3/10/2007 at 02:46 (6,256 days old) by robm (Buxted)        

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My ever faithfull Miele. I bought this in 99 and it's great!

Post# 196308 , Reply# 3   3/10/2007 at 02:48 (6,256 days old) by robm (Buxted)        

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This was my first washer when I moved from home. Very well made but hardly used any water. This dated from 1996.

Post# 196324 , Reply# 4   3/10/2007 at 05:56 (6,256 days old) by timon90 (Norway)        
Zanker Intimat

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My grandma had a Intimat like this....Bringing back MANY memories... Miss that machine!

Post# 196388 , Reply# 5   3/10/2007 at 14:04 (6,256 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Hello Rob,

I'm afraid I have to disagree with you on the Bauknecht quality. My brother and SIL had almost the same machine, just a different spinspeed (1100rpm). It was a machine from hell. In the first year it was already repaired three times and afterwards several times too until it was 4 years old. Then it needed a very expensive repair (around 500 Euros. Bauknecht first refused to pay for it, but after confronting them with all the other repairs and the possibility of a law suit they gave in and it was repaired yet another time. The machine worked for another year and then broke down again. Fed up with the Bauknecht washing machine (and also because of several problems with the matching dryer) they decided to replace it with an AEG (and matching dryer).

Unfortunately my brother and SIL weren't the only ones with problems with Bauknecht machines. I know several other people who also had difficulties with their Bauknecht products. And all of those people swear they will never buy another Bauknecht product again. A recent consumer review also made clear that Bauknecht was the brand that was repaired more often than any other brand (which is not a top score by the way, it doesn't count when machines are replaced.

Louis


Post# 196389 , Reply# 6   3/10/2007 at 14:07 (6,256 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Since this thread ended up in the vintage forum I guess it's nice to add some pictures of older German machines. First one is a Bosch washer/dryer combo with a keyplate control. It's from the late sixties I think.

Post# 196390 , Reply# 7   3/10/2007 at 14:10 (6,256 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Another Bosch jewel, an H-axis twintub.

Post# 196391 , Reply# 8   3/10/2007 at 14:11 (6,256 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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And the control panel of the twintub.

Post# 196392 , Reply# 9   3/10/2007 at 14:15 (6,256 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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A really nice Constructa. A great brand before it was bought up by BSH.

Post# 196393 , Reply# 10   3/10/2007 at 14:17 (6,256 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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One of the last Constructa's that did a real boil wash (1973 - 1974). IIRC Constructa was already bought up then by Bosch und Siemens Hausgeräte.

Post# 196395 , Reply# 11   3/10/2007 at 14:26 (6,256 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Over to Miele. My favourite Miele set. The Miele W421S washing machine and the T460 electronic dryer.

Post# 196397 , Reply# 12   3/10/2007 at 14:30 (6,256 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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In the early seventies Miele had introduced a few models with front controls. In 1975 a whole new line of washers and dryers with front controls were introduced. The new models had metal control panels.

Post# 196398 , Reply# 13   3/10/2007 at 14:34 (6,256 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Unique for that time was that the dryers matched both the frontloaders and the toploaders. Here's a picture of a Miele H-axis toploader from the same era.

Post# 196399 , Reply# 14   3/10/2007 at 14:39 (6,256 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Siemens made some nice products too. Among them a very colorful frontloader that was named "Harlekin".

Post# 196400 , Reply# 15   3/10/2007 at 14:41 (6,256 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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In the seventies several brands sold a topload dryer (like Fisher & Paykel). Siemens was one of those brands.

Post# 196401 , Reply# 16   3/10/2007 at 14:48 (6,256 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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One of the most sold washing machines in the Netherlands was the AEG Turnamat. An H-axis twintub. They used a lot of water, mainly because it couldn't spin between rinses. Five high water level rinses after the main wash and then you moved the laundry over to the spinner.

Post# 196402 , Reply# 17   3/10/2007 at 14:49 (6,256 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Same machine, now open.

Post# 196403 , Reply# 18   3/10/2007 at 14:55 (6,256 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Last picture for today, a nice AEG Lavamat Regina.

Post# 196412 , Reply# 19   3/10/2007 at 15:34 (6,256 days old) by fredriksam (Sweden)        

Wow!!! Cool thread. Here are some machines i recognize. Have seen many of some of them.

Hey, what was the problems with the baucknecht. I know they are NOT reliable machines. I have recycled many many of these, and some has been only like 2 years. Often the cpu board blows or the bearings size up.

That miele T460 dryer looks cool. It was never sold here in Sweden. But the washing machine (w421) was very popoular.
Did you know that toploaded Miele had ALOT of problems. A know an old repairman that has told alot about that machine.
It is the only "bad" machine Miele ever has done.

The toploaded Dryer (siemens) was sold here as Electrolux and Elektro-Helios. I have one at home that i,m trying to repair. I have a pic of it below the text.

That old Constructa is nice looking. I have seen a similar machine on Youtube. From Mielelover if i,m not mistaken.

That Aeg regina looks nice. I guess its kai´s machine. Right?
The turnamat looks also great. There are for sure many of these still working in old houses.

Siemens harlekin LOL. Bright nice colurs there.



Post# 196413 , Reply# 20   3/10/2007 at 15:36 (6,256 days old) by fredriksam (Sweden)        

Here is an old baucknecht that i only seen on picture. I know it was a real boil-wash machine.



Post# 196414 , Reply# 21   3/10/2007 at 15:40 (6,256 days old) by fredriksam (Sweden)        

Ok, here is a Miele W 433. Working perfectly. Has new belt and pump.



Post# 196417 , Reply# 22   3/10/2007 at 15:44 (6,256 days old) by fredriksam (Sweden)        

super super old constructa.



Post# 196419 , Reply# 23   3/10/2007 at 15:53 (6,256 days old) by timon90 (Norway)        

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Zanker Thermat 45E... It's worth a trip to Germany to buy one of these...!! Especially when my Zanker 502TS is crying, because she dont have a Zanker dryer on the top of her! :D

Post# 196432 , Reply# 24   3/10/2007 at 17:13 (6,256 days old) by retromom ()        

Wow! I can't say enough about European machines, both vintage and modern! Louis, what kind of cycle selections did that pushbutton Constructa have? I have never seen so many choices!!

Fredricksam: How old is that "super super old Constructa"?

I thought only Hoover had a keymatic type control. Was there anyone else besides Hoover and (now) Bosch that used this type of keymatic system?

Envious of those great vintage Euro washers -
V.


Post# 196439 , Reply# 25   3/10/2007 at 17:43 (6,256 days old) by timon90 (Norway)        
Zanker

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Zanker 550E

Post# 196452 , Reply# 26   3/10/2007 at 18:34 (6,255 days old) by brisnat81 (Brisbane Australia)        
My Miele W423

This is my W423 from 1978 that I found at a recycling centre. It gave me 12 months trouble free washing until the timer failed.

I can get a new timer from Miele and probably will, but I'm baulking at the $450 pricetag.


Post# 196453 , Reply# 27   3/10/2007 at 18:38 (6,255 days old) by brisnat81 (Brisbane Australia)        
W423 Dispensors

Left is pre wash, middle is softener and right is mainwash.

The prewash dispensor dumps the detergent straight into the sump of the machine.

The manual reccomends that you add the prewash detergent after the machine starts to fill.

I wrote to Miele in the DE to ask for a manual, they posted one out at a cost to them of 18euros for free.

The machine does a 60degC cottons cycle in about 70 minutes. Its cold fill and fills to the bottom of the door, so it does very well to heat and get through a cycle that quickly.

The standard for appliances in AU is 10amp 240v, this machine is 13.5Amp 240v and back in the 70's would've cost and arm and a let to have the wiring installed.

These days all circuits are 20amp, and its just a matter of having a 15amp style powerpoint installed.


Post# 196454 , Reply# 28   3/10/2007 at 18:40 (6,255 days old) by brisnat81 (Brisbane Australia)        
The washer and dryer in a stack

Unfortunately the matching dryer T337K (K = Condensor) is to expensive to repair, and uses 80L of water per dry cycle.

All of the rubber components inside have perished badly, and with a miele price of about $70 per hose, it was too expensive to repair.

The washer is installed up at Michaels mothers and sits next to her new Miele FL.


Post# 196486 , Reply# 29   3/10/2007 at 21:43 (6,255 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
Louis

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How old is that georgeous early Constructa? And is it a bolt down machine?
Does it have an auto timer or does the operator advance it by hand?

I really like those Miele with the backsplash too what a nice looking set!



Post# 196493 , Reply# 30   3/10/2007 at 22:37 (6,255 days old) by peteski50 (New York)        
constructa

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I Love that old constructa it looks awsome.
Peter


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