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Post# 199947   3/28/2007 at 14:15 (4,441 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom)        

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Has arrived people! Finally i have a fully working Newwave plus 5 1400 washer/dryer and its green! Heehee im really really pleased..seein how my last newwave had a faulty module. This one actually does full speed 1400rpm and man is it good!

Heres a pic!

Vids to follow!

Darren


Post# 199948 , Reply# 1   3/28/2007 at 14:18 (4,441 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom)        

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Dispenser open with programme guide at the front...Sorry its blurry.

Some of the videos i've made are better quality...but unfortunately not long after the wash started my camara battery said it didn't want to play it wanted to charge in its cradle...so i made some short ones with my mobile...better ones will be up tomorrow.

Darren


Post# 199951 , Reply# 2   3/28/2007 at 14:29 (4,441 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Great news Darren - really pleased that you have managed to find a new wave.

ermmmm....Green...ermmm. Never really understood the mid 90's fixation with green appliances. A mate of mine had an all green Servis in a farmhouse kitchen and, to put it politely, it looked plain ridiculous!

However the new wave is a lot more tastefully done and looks great.

Any success in flogging your servis and logic?

Cheers
paul


Post# 199954 , Reply# 3   3/28/2007 at 14:36 (4,441 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom)        

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Hi paul!
Hmmm yes the green craze...well i do miss the 1990s:P so i dont mind having this green piece of history:P lol. I never did like those all green servis's all too much....Didnt they do with a gold door? That looked borderline sickening lol.

I'm very pleased. and surprized how very short amount of time from me posting saying i wouldn't mind a british racing green one ,that i found one! lol! Schpookeh!

No sucess in flogging them....though the i moved the logic around n daylight happened to catch it and it stared at me...n i was like..."Ooooh....i dont really wanna get rid of you..."

N it came to me after the auction...i'm not really gettin rid of them because i dont want them, but because of overcrowding...the dead hotpoint is all i want rid of...i came up with the idea of storing them covered in the corner with a few light weight things on top...so it looks like their not taking up space and will be allowed to stay lol.

Gah...it was both amazingly fun and horrible sitting in my garage watching the newwave..i'm dyin from a throat infectin so i was shivverin like a ****in dog n smiling at the same time....very bizarre lol!

Darren


Post# 199960 , Reply# 4   3/28/2007 at 15:02 (4,441 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom)        

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First vid is the fill....

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Post# 199961 , Reply# 5   3/28/2007 at 15:09 (4,441 days old) by islingtonsteve ()        

G'day Darren

Awesome that you've finally got it home. Bet you're loving the spin rinses and the final spin. Love being at my folks house when it drops slightly from 800 and then ramps straight upto 1400.. Awesome sound!


Post# 199965 , Reply# 6   3/28/2007 at 15:37 (4,441 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom)        

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Certainly am steve. Shes a keeper!!!! i love watchin it fill as it slows down!!!

Darren


Post# 199966 , Reply# 7   3/28/2007 at 15:42 (4,441 days old) by islingtonsteve ()        

Also a fan of the fourth spin burst on the rinse spins when it goes from distrbution speed straight upto top speed within a couple of secs and then just cuts out and starts filling.. Such an awesome machine..

Post# 199970 , Reply# 8   3/28/2007 at 15:56 (4,441 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom)        

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Post# 199984 , Reply# 9   3/28/2007 at 16:46 (4,441 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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The spin-wash is very cool - how many times does it do that in a cycle? Lots 'o washday drama there.

Post# 199992 , Reply# 10   3/28/2007 at 17:42 (4,441 days old) by rolls_rapide (0)        
New Wave Spin Bursts...

When my mother had the early version AC178, it would be somewhat erratic in its behaviour.

If the water was heated from 'ice-cold' as you would have during the winter months, it would perform two spin bursts on the 40degree Cottons cycle. It would perform four on the 60degree Cottons programme.

As far as I can make out it did a spin on reaching 30degrees Celsius; then the temp rose to 40degC, and it did another burst. This temp was held for 8mins ("Enzyme Plateau"), then a third one was achieved. I think the final spin burst was at around 50degC.

However, if the incoming water was anywhere near tepid, it skipped them: and in some cases didn't do any at all on the 40degree Cottons programme! This was my bone of contention with the engineer...!

Later machines had a different control system, so may have performed more consistently.


Post# 200006 , Reply# 11   3/28/2007 at 19:51 (4,441 days old) by bajaespuma (Connecticut)        

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We love color! Bravo!

Post# 200147 , Reply# 12   3/29/2007 at 13:03 (4,440 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom)        

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Post# 200152 , Reply# 13   3/29/2007 at 13:49 (4,440 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom)        

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And heres the final spin i caught it just as it shifted from 800 to 1400rpm its fantastic. Sorry for the decrease in quality it wasn't quite dark enough to put the light on, but not quite light enough to light the garage lol!

Enjoy

Darren


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Post# 200156 , Reply# 14   3/29/2007 at 14:02 (4,440 days old) by islingtonsteve ()        

Crickey indeed! I can almost hear you smiling in that clip... ;-) Such a great sounding machine. Would love to see the spins inbetween the rinses and also catching it spining at 800 before it drops and then hits 1400 on the final spin.

Post# 200159 , Reply# 15   3/29/2007 at 14:10 (4,440 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom)        

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I'll see if i can get that filmed for you tommorrow steve when i do some towels! Yea i was smiling a fair bit:P how cud u tell:P I love how similar it is to the logic, but also very different at the same time. I had a daft little thought earlier...Had they not been bought out, i thought what if they continued the newwaves? Like they kept the electrons a fair while. Can you imagine the "new wave plus 6, 7,8 & maybe even 9" Models! That would be something to see.

I can but dream.

Darren


Post# 200162 , Reply# 16   3/29/2007 at 14:15 (4,440 days old) by islingtonsteve ()        

It certainly would be interesting to see how the would have topped the New Wave plus 5. I still think that they can hold there own compared to most modern machines that are on the market now. I know water level has been dropped - but as most people agree it seems to be at the detriment of the rinsing.
I forget what the Plus 5 stood for - it was 5 certain additions to the wash phase.
Spin burst was one
I know they reserched Biological washing detergents and came up with holding the wash water at 40 degrees for 7 mins as this gave the enzymes in the detergents to do there best.
Was front fill one of them as well?


Post# 200163 , Reply# 17   3/29/2007 at 14:28 (4,440 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom)        

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I believe from memory steve the plus 5 was the addition of 5kg load as the previous ones were 4.5kg. I always thought that was odd how the logic and ecologics before them were 5kg and then they went back to 4.5kg with the newwaves and classicas. Bizzare.

I actually am convinced that the newwave outperforms loads of current models. I mean tell me a machine that uses gravitation force to penetrate fabric and remove stains? It was rated A for wash performance!

I have my brochure infront of me. For those who don't know and those who just want to refresh their memory the eco wash system it uses consists of 7 key things;

1. The Eco valve-water flows into the machine, shutting off the valve, only then does the detergent pass into the machine. Which is how they managed to make it have 0 detergent loss.

2.The front fill. (I've included a pic of this) The water only flows in from the fill flume spraying the load with water and detergent. I find this actually creates even absortion.

3. mimimum tub/drum gap. Extremely narrow gap between the tub and the wash drum allowed the machine to use such a low amount of water and save on detergent.

4. The sensor spray system. Basically soak and shower system. holes in the paddles shower the load as it tumbles. Really cool turqoise paddles i may add:p

5. The Enzyme plateau- The heating cycle is held at 40degrees for 8minutes to activate the enzymes in biological detergent.

6. Spin washing- The washing is spun at slow speed (400rpm) For a short time during four different programme cycles.

I counted it today on a 40degree cotton cycle it span about 5 or 6 times in the wash!

7. Self adjusting water levels- Machine automatically adjusts water required dependent on the load conditions encountered.

Pretty technical stuff even today.

I've been using Ariel bio, Ariel with febreze liquitabs, Ariel colour And lenor summer breeze in my loads that i've done in it. All with outstanding results. It rinses brilliantly to say it uses 65litres of water.

Darren


Post# 200164 , Reply# 18   3/29/2007 at 14:37 (4,440 days old) by islingtonsteve ()        

And it's 11 years old! Way beyond it's time. Before I bought the Vision I did look on Ebay and some secondhand websites hoping to pick one up to replace the bosch Exceel machine and altho the Bosch was a new machine i found it completely inferior to the New Wave I was used to.
The spin bursts always used to depend on how much detergent I had used as well. It seemed if I used more/too much detergent the spin burst would be omitted. Which was probably a prevention to sudslock.
Keep the videos coming huh!


Post# 200165 , Reply# 19   3/29/2007 at 14:41 (4,440 days old) by l86810 (Southend, UK)        

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Wooow Darren. I bet your pleased lol
Is your New 'New Wave Plus5' much different than your 'New Wave' you had before?

Steve: I think those features were already on the newwave ranges before that. I've got a leaflet on the 'New Wave Plus' saying the machines had an 'Eco Wash System Plus' consisting of six features:
1/ Eco ball valve
2/ Front fill
3/ Minimal tub/drum gap
4/ Sensorspray system (not as in jetsystem, just the drum scoops up the water and sprays the load as the drum goes round)
5/ Enzyme Plateau
6/ Spin Burst

.. all those features may have even been on the first 'New Wave's


Post# 200166 , Reply# 20   3/29/2007 at 14:42 (4,440 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom)        

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Hmmm yea my newwave certainly makes my brothers bosch look cheap. I'm not slating bosch. not at all i like his bosch. but it certainly seems basic in comparrision. As does my AEG in the house! lol!

I will put some good quality pics of a towels/sheets load, depending which i feel the need to do at the time. And they'll be up tomorrow!:D

The stupidily large colours load i did only did short spin bursts because the load was quite heavy. In hindsight i thought i should've split it into 2 loads. but excitment impared my thought lol.

Darren


Post# 200169 , Reply# 21   3/29/2007 at 14:49 (4,440 days old) by islingtonsteve ()        

Thanks for that 18610 . That's what I was thinking of. Both My 1500 and my mums still running 1400 were the Plus 5 machines.

Post# 200170 , Reply# 22   3/29/2007 at 14:52 (4,440 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom)        

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Hey l86810!
It is different in that this one actually works properly!!:D Aside from using slightly less water, it is virtually the same. Except it has the 5kg load,is green! and spins at 1400rpm. Which i'm loving.

I think it spins as good if not better than my AEG!

I think it spins for a good 3 or 4minutes at 800 (i believe this gets the bulk of the water out) and then 2minutes at 1400!

I do like the colour even if it does remind me of the 90s craze. Sheesh i remember my mother getting a green kettle and toaster and the *cringes* Diplomat semi integral dishwasher we had, had a british racing green control panel. Memorys.

I remember seeing these machines new and being absalutely desperate to own one! Ever since i saw the first models! I really wanted the silver one too..only slightly more than the green one:D

But yes. Now that i have one that spins at its full potential i'm extremely happy.

I did my jeans load with a ariel with febreze liquitab and stuck the extra rinse button on. I sat through the rinses and saw that it was clear by the 2nd after it had done its "dynamic spin rinsing" bursts.

I was able to do what myself and jon (lavamat_jon)Call a "2rinse wonder" with the non bio liquitabs, but i was surprized the bio ones rinsed out as well!

This got me thinking, maybe now detergent manufacturers are starting to forumlate things with low level rinsing in mind?

Darren


Post# 200172 , Reply# 23   3/29/2007 at 15:02 (4,440 days old) by l86810 (Southend, UK)        

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Looks like the New Wave Plus 5 gained the extra 7th feature!
I remember seeing one of the first models in a Great Universal catalogue, and in the desciption it said 'Unique Spin Burst' and I always wanted one lol,

Unfortunatly my Philips didn't beak down until the Six range came out.. which is about the equivilent on an Indes*it

Adam


Post# 200175 , Reply# 24   3/29/2007 at 15:25 (4,440 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom)        

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Yea the plus 5's gained the self adjusting water levels!

What philips did you have l86810 :o! Oh dear. Wasnt impressed with the six? My ex g.f had a hoover six 1600 whisper. when i moved in their for a few months n it was actually quiet good. it was real quiet! I had to buy a replacement when her ex wanted it back lol. So i thought i'd buy the Comet equivlent to a nextra 7.5kg 1400 which was called a softwave maxi! it too was okay, i don't know if its dead or owt now as i moved on.

It was by no means a newwave. :p

Darren


Post# 200181 , Reply# 25   3/29/2007 at 15:50 (4,440 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom)        

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I had a new wave plus leaflet years ago..on one side it had a pic of the white model and on the other it had the graphite 1500 model. I really liked that leaflet n it got "lost" in a house move! grr! I used to write to hoover all the time asking about features on the newwave. They always used to reply!!

Darren



Post# 200205 , Reply# 26   3/29/2007 at 19:39 (4,440 days old) by rolls_rapide (0)        
New Wave Features

The early New Waves had the 6 components as listed by l86810. The 'Sensorspray paddles' are asymmetric; ie, they have a steep side for robust fabrics, lifting them higher, and a shallow side for delicates. The direction of the drum depended upon the programme.

Newwave1: I used to write to them too, and they were very good at replying!


Post# 200212 , Reply# 27   3/29/2007 at 20:17 (4,440 days old) by lavamat_jon (-)        

Darren - a brilliant acquisition! Gotta love that racing green, reminds me of the Morphy Richards kettle and toaster we had during the late 90s!

Loving the videos, can't wait to see it for myself this coming weekend! Would love to see the results especially from the 1400 spin, seeming as your last NW only did 800 :-(.

Nice to see the box of Ariel to accompany the New Wave - what with it being Hoover Recommended and all :-). The Ariel box almost matches the fascia panel, too! :-).

Take care, and congratulations!

Jon


Post# 200360 , Reply# 28   3/30/2007 at 09:47 (4,439 days old) by robm (Buxted)        

Hi Darren

A big congratulations from me. I know you love these machines. I remember Servis selling machine's in that colour too.

I will give you a ring soon.

Rob


Post# 200386 , Reply# 29   3/30/2007 at 12:12 (4,439 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom)        

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New vids!

Heres the fill and start of the wash on cotton 60


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Post# 200390 , Reply# 30   3/30/2007 at 12:29 (4,439 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom)        

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Heres a couple of pics of the 2nd rinse i used a full scoop of ariel bio in this load!

Darren


Post# 200393 , Reply# 31   3/30/2007 at 12:31 (4,439 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom)        

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and another

Post# 200399 , Reply# 32   3/30/2007 at 12:57 (4,439 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom)        

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Heres the wash and then the spin wash!

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Post# 200403 , Reply# 33   3/30/2007 at 13:36 (4,439 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom)        

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And just when you think it's all a bed of roses.............


The machines ON/OFF button was stuck in since i got it. No biggy i've just turned it off at the wall. Then after i finished filming these videos i decided to see what was going on.

I pushed it in it popped out then it wouldn't stay in when i pressed it so i couldn't turn it on. then i pushed it and it collapsed in! HELP ME! I really ******G hope this isn't major. What a let down this will be for me. I'll have the top off tomorrow. I'm far to mad to do it now.

Any advice would be appreciated guys. Really.

D


Post# 200408 , Reply# 34   3/30/2007 at 14:35 (4,439 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom)        

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Post# 200412 , Reply# 35   3/30/2007 at 14:59 (4,439 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom)        

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Heres the interm spin vids

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Post# 200416 , Reply# 36   3/30/2007 at 16:04 (4,439 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom)        

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Final spin 800rpm then 1400rpm! Enjoy

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Post# 200426 , Reply# 37   3/30/2007 at 20:18 (4,439 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
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That is one cool machine, I love the racing green!!


Now off to watch the vids....I just had to post

jet


Post# 200468 , Reply# 38   3/31/2007 at 04:13 (4,439 days old) by nickuk (chelmsford UK)        

Oh yeah - loving that gentle deceleration followed by rapid acceleration - grunt grunt

Post# 200617 , Reply# 39   4/1/2007 at 08:38 (4,437 days old) by carlstock ()        
OMG!! :-)

Darren! WOW!!! :-)

I hope youíve managed to get the button sorted out now. :-)

If you ever let go of this machine, Iíll be having words with you, sunshine! ;-)

Iíd have loved a machine like this. Donít forget, as I say every five minutes, I had the chance to have an older one in 1994/95. *sob sbo* ;-)

Nick, stop that grunting Ė itís very off-putting! ;-) hehe

Iím off to watch the videos now! Iím positively shaking with excitement! :-) Think Iíll have to have a little sit down in the living room first Ė too much excitement! :-)

Take care. :-)

Regards,

Carl :-)


Post# 200618 , Reply# 40   4/1/2007 at 08:41 (4,437 days old) by carlstock ()        
Excitement Overload

I just had to post another message Ė so excited! :-)

Love the colour! :-)

Just got to fire up the stereo, plug the headphone inÖ and away I go with Darrenís vids! ;-) OMG Ė how sad am I?! ;-) Using one other obsession (hi-fi) to listen to another (washers)!!! ;-)

LOL! :-)

Carl :-)


Post# 200635 , Reply# 41   4/1/2007 at 12:04 (4,437 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom)        

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Hi Carl!
Awh! I'm glad you liked the videos! Well you may've missed out in 94/95 but find sum pleasure in the fact you get to see one in 2007 even if it is in video form:-)

Thank you to everyone who's posted so far.

I've gotten the button temporarily fixed while i order a new power button unit as it won't say in. So i've done the ole' maskin tape job to keep it secure and i just turn it off at the mains. That works for now, though admittedly its abit of an eyesore!

Currently doing a fullload of towels with a febreze liquitab. All is well so far and were on the 3rd rinse. I selected extra rinse but it didn't really need it as the 2nd rinse was clear! It was just precautionary, as i'm extremely particular when it comes to rinsing.

Hope everyones enjoying whats left of the weekend before monday arrives.

Darren


Post# 200765 , Reply# 42   4/2/2007 at 02:47 (4,437 days old) by fredriksam (Sweden)        

Cool videos Darren. Congratulations on finding a working Hoover NewWave. The green colour there is nice. The spin wash is so awesome.

I remember the Newwave we had at our job and how i sat and stared at it quite some time. Unfortenly one or two transit bolts were never removed on the washer, so it moved quite abit.

Later it totally died when a blond girl washed a big rug mat in it. It is said that she had to kick the door closed to get the machine going. The motor burned and (i think) the bearings seized. Stupid girl.

Later i repaired an Whirlpool machine that we found on our local dumpster. I guess you have seen the videos of that one.

You still have the Logic? How is it working?





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