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Post# 55349   1/30/2005 at 19:10 (7,017 days old) by westytoploader ()        

The Bosch SHU43C06 DW that we ordered from Lowe's finally came in last Wednesday and was delivered/installed in our house. I did give the Hotpoint a good, hard kick when it was out in the driveway, leaving a nice dent...LOL. You could tell the solenoid-actuated drain valve was leaking like a sieve as there was A LOT of rust near it. I'm surprised the Hotpoint ran as long as it did...

The Bosch is the machine above the base model; the 4-cycle model; cost $540 at Lowe's. I was shocked at how good it looked with the shiny black door, even better than the white version which I also thought looked good. Per Bosch's recommendation, we bought Cascade powder as well as Crystal Clear rinse agent (Cascade's version of Jet Dry). Needless to say the cleaning power of this baby is impressive, and ultra-quiet too. In the middle of the wash cycle, when the heat is built up, it sounds more like a dryer than a dishwasher. I didn't pre-rinse last night, scraping off just the "large chunks" of food as Bob mentioned. Put it on Power Scrub Plus and not only was the food cleaned from the plates, it was VAPORIZED. I took the drain filter out to clean it and there was NOTHING in there!!!

I'm very impressed with this machine. It's beautiful, cleans like there is no tomorrow, is probably the quietest dishwasher ever made, and is also very convienent, with an easily removeable upper rack and electronic pushbutton controls.

If anyone is having a hard time choosing between a Bosch and a GE/Maytag/KitchenAid, etc., then GET THE BOSCH!!! YOU WON'T REGRET IT!!! :)

Here are a few pictures.

--Austin


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Post# 55350 , Reply# 1   1/30/2005 at 19:28 (7,017 days old) by lavamat_jon (UK)        

YAY!!!!

Great machine Austin!!! I like those "old style" Bosch machines - for a couple years now the Bosch doors are just "pull" open and have a half control panel rather than having a latch and a deep control panel - the ones like yours look so much better!! I sure bet it is an improvement over your old Hotpoint. When we got a new dishwasher a couple weeks ago, we were amazed that no little bits of food were left deposited over glasses!!! It's great being able to drink out of non-food-covered glasses, I guess you know what that luxury is like :-D.

How long do each of the cycles take?

BTW I kicked our old dishwasher about a year before it went away, LOL!

Jon

(PS - I'm on chat now if your still online, maybe chat bout it there :-D)


Post# 55351 , Reply# 2   1/30/2005 at 19:28 (7,017 days old) by lavamat_jon (UK)        

YAY!!!!

Great machine Austin!!! I like those "old style" Bosch machines - for a couple years now the Bosch doors are just "pull" open and have a half control panel rather than having a latch and a deep control panel - the ones like yours look so much better!! I sure bet it is an improvement over your old Hotpoint. When we got a new dishwasher a couple weeks ago, we were amazed that no little bits of food were left deposited over glasses!!! It's great being able to drink out of non-food-covered glasses, I guess you know what that luxury is like :-D.

How long do each of the cycles take?

BTW I kicked our old dishwasher about a year before it went away, LOL!

Jon

(PS - I'm on chat now if your still online, maybe chat bout it there :-D)


Post# 55352 , Reply# 3   1/30/2005 at 19:29 (7,017 days old) by lavamat_jon (UK)        
Argh...

Double posted *AGAIN*. Dunno what's been going wrong with it this weekend...

Jon


Post# 55362 , Reply# 4   1/30/2005 at 20:42 (7,017 days old) by Ironrite ()        

Glad to hear the new machine is working so well. My Bosch replaced a 10 year old GE that actually did a good job until the pump went out. Then two top of the like Kenmore Elite machines. Each lasted less than a month here Neither one would clean dishes, both noisier than the old GE they replaced. I'm not sure if it was just a bad batch of machines, since they're so highly rated. CU rated them so highly, Sears and I couldn't figure out what went wrong.

Now, if I could just figure out how to get that new set of Bosch FL/Dryer in here.


Post# 55366 , Reply# 5   1/30/2005 at 21:22 (7,017 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Congratulations Austin. I'm very proud of you. Now, the no pre-rinse support group is in session. Your mom has a standing appointment.

Now you know why Todd and Greg don't have food bits in the filters of their Bosch & Asko, respectively. The food is varporized. Todd is convinced if he put a car engine in it, it would come out show room brand new.


Post# 55393 , Reply# 6   1/31/2005 at 08:07 (7,016 days old) by kenmore1978 ()        
vaporization

It could be because Cascade claims that their detergent "dissolves" food particles.

Post# 55431 , Reply# 7   1/31/2005 at 10:57 (7,016 days old) by retromom ()        
Vaporizing action

As guilty as I feel about not pre-rinsing, this dw sure gets 'em clean!

Guess we better be careful with that Cascade. I wouldn't want to drop any on the floor. It might dissolve the foundation. LOL


Post# 55485 , Reply# 8   1/31/2005 at 17:25 (7,016 days old) by agiflow ()        
Try normal cycle

Austin,the next load of really dirty dishes that you have,try the normal cycle and see if the machine cleans as well.You can cut back even more on energy use :)

Post# 55565 , Reply# 9   2/1/2005 at 09:14 (7,015 days old) by Joe_in_Philly (Philadelphia, PA, USA)        

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Austin,

I love your new dishwasher...I got the exact same one a couple of months ago!

I think the cascade does vaporize the food particles. I never rinse, though someone in the house tends to put plates into the sink and fill them with water to soak...a hold over from the old dishwasher days. The filter is always clean, as is the large object trap.

As far as I can tell, every time I have run the dishwasher, it has deleted a water change. After the first quick 1 minute rinse on the normal cycle, it does not change the water again before adding the detergent. I have been surprised that the water is not very dirty at all after the quick rinse. Everything has always come out spotless. I have medium hard water, and fill the detergent cup up to the 25ml line.

Good luck with your new dishwasher!

Joe


Post# 55581 , Reply# 10   2/1/2005 at 11:48 (7,015 days old) by retromom ()        
Bosch DW

Thanks Joe!

This dw is powerful enough to clean off unrinsed dried Philly Cheesesteak residue ;-)

The new question in the household is: Which is more efficient for maximum cleaning; putting the utensil handles up or handles down in the utensil basket? A question that will stir up controversy, I'm sure.

Venus



Post# 55589 , Reply# 11   2/1/2005 at 12:18 (7,015 days old) by Joe_in_Philly (Philadelphia, PA, USA)        

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Venus,

There is nothing like a good cheesesteak! The big question is, which is better, Pat's or Geno's?

Pat's
http://www.patskingofsteaks.com
Geno's
http://www.genosteaks.com

I have been keeping one side of the silverware basket's lid down, and putting each piece in its own slot. I thought it would be cumbersome at first, but now it is not a problem. I put knives in with handles up, and the rest will only fit handles down through the slots. So far, so good!

Joe


Post# 55590 , Reply# 12   2/1/2005 at 12:19 (7,015 days old) by lavamat_jon (UK)        

Venus,

A combination of both here!!! As long as the water jets can reach, then they'll clean. Also, doing a combination of both can prevent nesting as can happen, especially with spoons, when they are all pointing the same direction (up or down).

Our dishwasher came with a grid to put on the cutlery basket, however I took it off as I prefer to "drop" in the cutlery, and also the grids prevented being able to put utensils in the cutlery basket too.

Hope this helps :-)

Jon


Post# 55595 , Reply# 13   2/1/2005 at 12:46 (7,015 days old) by retromom ()        

Joe:

My money's on Genos!

Jon and Joe:

Thanks for the tip. I do tend to alternate the cutlery so they don't nest and retain meal crud. For knives I usually place sharp ones down, butter knives up. I guess this is a safety holdover from when the kiddos were little.

Venus


Post# 55632 , Reply# 14   2/1/2005 at 19:16 (7,015 days old) by westytoploader ()        
Update

Just got the March '05 issue of CR in the mail and they tested dishwashers. Guess which model took 2nd place out of 40!!! The SHU4CO[2], the exact same one in the kitchen!

Top-rated was the $780 Bosch I saw at Lowe's that I just couldn't convince my mom to buy...I didn't see any differences between the two.

--Austin


Post# 55635 , Reply# 15   2/1/2005 at 19:49 (7,015 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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Great dishwasher! Thanks for the pics----and in what can only be described as a weird coincidence, I just put a load in my dishwasher with a 10" chef's knife in the top rack and one of those plastic slotted plate covers for the microwave in the bottom rack. Unfortunately, my new Frigidaire doesn't have a spiffy stainless steel interior. It's a good-looking machine, Austin. Congrats on getting rid of your Hotpoint!

Post# 55675 , Reply# 16   2/2/2005 at 01:10 (7,015 days old) by kenmore1978 ()        
Cutlery placement

Venus,, I do the same thing you do, sharp knives down, but the butter kives may go up OR down, depending on how I'm holding them when I drop them in.

I liked the long basket for cooking utensils with the covered basket area for small items my '78 KM had in its upper rack, so I took it and now use it in the '88 WP's lower rack for the same purpose.


Post# 55733 , Reply# 17   2/2/2005 at 11:49 (7,014 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Great pictures, great dishwasher! I also load the knives with the sharp side down. The same goes for the forks, fortunately mine don't fall through the openings of the basket. My dishwasher came with a grid too. My old flatware (cutlery) didn't fit into it, so I never used it. Last week I bought a new set and this set does fit in, but after using the grid a few times I threw it out again, I really hated that thing. Loading and unloading without that darn thing is just way easier.

Post# 55746 , Reply# 18   2/2/2005 at 13:16 (7,014 days old) by lavamat_jon (UK)        

Louis,

That's what I also like about my AEG cutlery basket - the forks don't fall through. I don't mind the grid that came with it, however using the grid prevents being able to put utensils in the cutlery basket, so I took off the grid.

Of course the only annoying thing is now instead of putting spoons in the right places, everybody will dump all the cutlery int he front of the basket, sometimes in just one compartment, meaning before I load the dishwasher I have to pick out dirty cutlery and re-arrange it. Also I find the cutlery basket being open useful for washing small items such as eggcups, or when the cooktop is being cleaned, washing the burner assembly in.

Austin/Venus,

Did your Bosch come with a cutlery grid?

Take care all,

Jon :-)


Post# 55809 , Reply# 19   2/3/2005 at 03:14 (7,014 days old) by maytagbear (N.E. Ohio)        
You're making me sad here, people.

I used to cook professionally, and good knives (Wusthof, Henckel, some Sabatier lines, certain Chicago Cutlery lines) should NEVER EVER go in the dishwasher!

The action can cause edges to be knocked out of alignment, the detergent can damage handles, there's the whole safety issue.....
You'll resharpen less often, or have to have them resharpened less often.

Please, please reconsider your practise, all right?

Even if you don't change your ways, think about it.

Please.


Lawrence/Maytagbear


Post# 55817 , Reply# 20   2/3/2005 at 06:12 (7,013 days old) by Hallequin ()        
Try the Quick Wash!!

Hi All!

Just to let you knwo we bought a slimline Bosch dishwasher and have found for crockery, cutlery and mixing bowls etc.... normal daily use and soiling, the Quick 45# wash is superb. It only takes 29 minutes on our machine and apart from fully drying the dishes, it sdoes an excellent job of cleaning them. Great for a pratial load too!

We use Finish powder, not sure if this is available in US and also our supermarket own brand... just as good!!!

Peter


Post# 55818 , Reply# 21   2/3/2005 at 06:14 (7,013 days old) by Hallequin ()        
Washing method!

One thing Ihave noticed with our Bosch is that the waster is circulated first to the lower basket arm for a minute or two then to the upper arm. Is this the new way for dishwashers or are there other models that do this too?
Does anyone know why also????


Post# 55876 , Reply# 22   2/3/2005 at 17:17 (7,013 days old) by Kirk280980 ()        

Hallequin,

My Bosch dishwasher, which I've had almost a couple of weeks now, does exactly the same thing. Apparently this allows the machine to save water (only enough is needed to feed one spray arm at a time), and also reduces noise levels.

While the machine is extremely quiet, if one listens carefully you can hear the spray action stopping, starting and alternating at regular intervals. Seems a little strange at first but I soon got used to it, and overall couldn't be happier with this DW - it's brilliant!


Post# 55879 , Reply# 23   2/3/2005 at 17:27 (7,013 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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AEG already had this system for many years on their TOL dishwashers. The dishwasher that I now have is the second AEG with this feature.

Post# 55912 , Reply# 24   2/4/2005 at 05:58 (7,012 days old) by kenmore1978 ()        
Good knives in DW

"I used to cook professionally, and good knives (Wusthof, Henckel, some Sabatier lines, certain Chicago Cutlery lines) should NEVER EVER go in the dishwasher!"

I was going to bring up that point, too, but you beat me to it.
The only knives I put in the dishwasher are those "cheapie" serrated knives like they give you in restaurants for steaks, and regular tableware knives.


Post# 55943 , Reply# 25   2/4/2005 at 10:14 (7,012 days old) by retromom ()        
Knives in the d/w

Guilty as charged. Then again, if I had sharp knives, I would be dangerous (not to mention missing several digits).

Post# 55955 , Reply# 26   2/4/2005 at 11:38 (7,012 days old) by Bearpete ()        
Hey Kirk!

That makes a lot of sense..... Great dishwasher though. I too am rerally pleased with our machine!

Peter



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