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Post# 206028   4/24/2007 at 16:20 (6,210 days old) by washabear (Maryland)        

Hello, all:

The picture of the day of the Wizard machine brought back a memory. I only ever knew of one household that had one, a neighbor of ours who bought everything from Western Auto. I think that is the only one I've ever seen, although I don't remember much about it. Who made them? Just curious.

Thanks.





Post# 206064 , Reply# 1   4/24/2007 at 20:53 (6,210 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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Imperial wizard? Were these seen in the south? I can't say I've ever seen one.



Post# 206082 , Reply# 2   4/24/2007 at 22:08 (6,210 days old) by tlee618 ()        

Had a neighbor that had an Imperial set as well. They owned the Western Auto in our town. It was a beautiful set, lighted consoles and all. She had it in her kitchen, The one thing that really stands out in my mind is that it seemed to do a ton of spray rinses. I also remember that it was not working a lot of the time.LOL

Post# 206085 , Reply# 3   4/24/2007 at 22:20 (6,210 days old) by harold (Madison, WI)        

My Grandmother did have a Wizard Washer. She buy the machine in 1964 from Western Auto Supply.. It was a solid tub. she had it until 1970, she did got a Sears kenmore 800. in 1970.

Post# 206088 , Reply# 4   4/24/2007 at 22:25 (6,210 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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I'd never seen a Wizard, but they were also branded as Coronado, which was available in the small town I grew up in. I believe these machines have a Franklin transmission, which is still used in 80's-to-present Frigidaire TL'ers. For better or worse, LOL.

Post# 206109 , Reply# 5   4/24/2007 at 23:37 (6,210 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Ooh, Harold is now a possibly 4th member here who had a 1970 or 1971 Kenmopre 800 in their past. :-)

Post# 206176 , Reply# 6   4/25/2007 at 08:32 (6,210 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        
Gambles 1961

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These are so pretty with the piano key controls. I saw the dryer in a thrift store a few years back. Too bad they were such junk...

Post# 206188 , Reply# 7   4/25/2007 at 09:46 (6,210 days old) by veg-o-matic (Baltimore, Hon!)        

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Did Franklin make the whole machines or just the transmissions?
I know that towards the end of the run, WA dropped the Wizard name in favor of Citation, and the last ones were labeled Citation by Norge.

veg


Post# 206228 , Reply# 8   4/25/2007 at 11:55 (6,210 days old) by harold (Madison, WI)        
Hi Appnut

When my Grandmother past away in 1979, I did have her Kenmore Washer the 800 series, She did buy it the day before my Father past away in Sept 1970. When my Grandmother past on I did have her Kenmore washer I only have it for couple years, and I got another one. I wish that Kenmore washer was here again.. I can kick myself for doing that.. The machine was an 6 cycles, with a Super Roto Swirl.

Post# 206255 , Reply# 9   4/25/2007 at 14:38 (6,210 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains)        
coronado, wizard, gambles

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Gosh, none of these names mean a thing to me. Were they original or put together by whoever had extra capacity?
Whatever else one may say about that Franklin tranny...it does seem to run forever!


Post# 206256 , Reply# 10   4/25/2007 at 14:41 (6,210 days old) by washabear (Maryland)        

OK, I dug out an old Consumer Reports Buying Guide from 1977, and it describes both a Wizard machine and a Norge machine as being similar to a Wards Signature machine, so perhaps both the Wizard and the Signature were made by Norge? All had similarly poor frequency of repair rankings in an earlier guide (Wizard was the worst).

Never heard of the Coronado brand. Neat ad; thanks gansky1 for including it.

Thanks for the replies.


Post# 206260 , Reply# 11   4/25/2007 at 15:54 (6,209 days old) by lesto (Atlanta)        

A neighbor had a Wizard. I was from early 60's. Same agitator as Robert's Wizard. It had a timed fill and the control knob was very similar to speed queens of the 57 & 58 models. Two cycles, normal and short. Overflow rinse.

Post# 206263 , Reply# 12   4/25/2007 at 16:14 (6,209 days old) by harold (Madison, WI)        
Wizard

I did find a pic of my Grandmother Wizard washer. Yes, overflow wash and rinse.

Post# 206268 , Reply# 13   4/25/2007 at 16:28 (6,209 days old) by dadoes (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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My dad's uncle's wife's brother ran a Western Auto store in a nearby town, she always had Wizard. The last one I remember looked very much like those in the ad above, but BOL. One speed, timer dial and small water-saver button.

Post# 206298 , Reply# 14   4/25/2007 at 19:43 (6,209 days old) by jasonl (Cookeville, TN)        

Harold's mom had taste!

Post# 206335 , Reply# 15   4/25/2007 at 20:51 (6,209 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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Gambles were hardware stores that also sold Coronado appliances. They were fairly inexpensive and I remember several friends whose parents had Coronado washers. The 60s/very early 70s models were solid, indexing tubs with overflow rinses. Then they must have changed manufacturers, because by the time I graduated from high school, I seem to recall they had very large, perforated tubs--ala Norge, as someone has pointed out.

Post# 206443 , Reply# 16   4/26/2007 at 08:29 (6,209 days old) by peterh770 (Marietta, GA)        

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Under the hood, the Franklin transmission (and the Westinghouse trasmission, for that matter) looked very much like the GE transmittion: kind of a huge bell under the outer tub, with the motor offset to one corner and a pump connected to the motor with a flexible coupling. When Elux changed the Frigidaire and Westinghouse designs to plastic, they overhauled the transmission, keeping many of the same elements for performance, but loosing the size of the mechanism and the durability.

Post# 206482 , Reply# 17   4/26/2007 at 10:38 (6,209 days old) by veg-o-matic (Baltimore, Hon!)        

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Is it me, or does that $199.88 Wizard look like a Philco?

veg


Post# 206734 , Reply# 18   4/27/2007 at 12:49 (6,208 days old) by harold (Madison, WI)        
Jason

Hi Jason, My Grandmother and I went over to Sears, the Salesman told my Grandmother the Kenmore 800 was on sale, she did have a choice from the 700 or the 800. So, she got the 800 series. I just love that machine, I wish this website was turn on in the 1980's, and I will not sell the machine..

Post# 206755 , Reply# 19   4/27/2007 at 15:30 (6,208 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains)        
thanks Eugene

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I guess some stores and brands either escaped my notice...or didn't make it to our one-horse, no-cow town.

Post# 206757 , Reply# 20   4/27/2007 at 15:48 (6,207 days old) by gyrafoam (Wytheville, VA)        
Now Toggle-----

Wisconsin and New Jersey had the most notorious of all the "Imperial Wizards" back in the '30's. So don't even try to go there!

Now, as for Western Auto, those are called "Whizzzzzards".


Post# 207226 , Reply# 21   4/29/2007 at 19:57 (6,205 days old) by monkeywards40 ()        

I remember my mom had one of those washers, when i was little we lived at indian lake ohio and we had western auto in lakeview. Our was was a avacado green wizard citation it had the burp-o-later agitator and lint filter tray but no fabric softener dispenser to go over top of her lint filter but it was quieter then most of the wards washers she had and it was harder then hell to kill too.


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