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Post# 206510   4/26/2007 at 14:32 (6,200 days old) by islingtonsteve ()        

After being unhappy with the Bosch 1400 Exceel I had I decided to replace it with a larger and hopefully better performing machine. I decided to replace it with the Hoover Vision HD14 8KG washer. I've had this machine for nearly two months now and I have to say I am stoked with it.

It washes and rinses perfectly and the final spin is superb knocking spots off the bosch which boasted the same spin speed. It has some great programs with different wash profiles, uses a good amount of water to rinse and does four rinses as standard or five with sensitive care selected - which also uses more water for the wash and rinse cycles.

It uses a powerjet during the wash and rinse cycles and also goes into distribute speed five or six times during the wash phase and throughout all of the rinses.

I'm also impressed at the noise level. It seems very quiet for a brush motor. Who knows how long it's going to last but I really am very impressed with it.

Here's some pics and videos...




Post# 206511 , Reply# 1   4/26/2007 at 14:36 (6,200 days old) by islingtonsteve ()        

Sensitive care button adds more water to the wash at several different stages, it also adds another rinse making the toal 5 and drains some of the water and adds fresh during the rinses.
Stain Blaster keeps the wash temp at a constant level throughout the entire wash cycle and adds one or two more distribute cycles.

Post# 206512 , Reply# 2   4/26/2007 at 14:37 (6,200 days old) by islingtonsteve ()        

program selector

Post# 206515 , Reply# 3   4/26/2007 at 14:42 (6,200 days old) by islingtonsteve ()        

Acrylics wash water level

Post# 206516 , Reply# 4   4/26/2007 at 14:43 (6,200 days old) by islingtonsteve ()        

rinse level on the 59M A cotton wash

Post# 206517 , Reply# 5   4/26/2007 at 14:45 (6,200 days old) by islingtonsteve ()        

water level on 3rd normal cottons rinse

Post# 206518 , Reply# 6   4/26/2007 at 14:49 (6,200 days old) by islingtonsteve ()        

Cottons wash with sensitive care . Distribute phase

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Post# 206519 , Reply# 7   4/26/2007 at 14:50 (6,200 days old) by islingtonsteve ()        

Final part of Cottons spin. It's an impressive final spin with two spin bursts of 600, then upto 800 for 1min, then upto 1000 for four mins, then 1200 for four mins follows by 1400 for 2.5 mins.

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Post# 206720 , Reply# 8   4/27/2007 at 12:16 (6,199 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom)        

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Fantastic pics and videos steve!
I love the distribution rinses. The water levels are really generous for a modern machine! Seems hoover-candy got something right with this one!

The spins impressive. I bet things come out real dry with the large drum surface and long spins.

Happy so far?

Darren

Post# 206738 , Reply# 9   4/27/2007 at 13:47 (6,199 days old) by robm (Buxted)        

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Hi Steve

Thanks for doing those for us. One thing I can say about the new Hoover's and Hottie's is that they are fun.

Seriously thinking about getting one of these, especially now as I have decided to leave my WD640 at my flat when it's sold.

Looks nice and stable too.

Rob

Post# 206874 , Reply# 10   4/28/2007 at 08:21 (6,198 days old) by mrx ()        

I've heard good things about the 1600RPM Vision Iconic, which has an inverter motor that makes it run extremely silently.

I'm moving fairly soon and a Miele or AEG is a bit out of the price range, so I might be looking at a Hoover or Zanussi.

Does anyone know anything about their Hydrodryer?

Post# 206875 , Reply# 11   4/28/2007 at 08:30 (6,198 days old) by mrx ()        
Heard the 1600RPM Vision Iconic is excellent

 I'm moving fairly soon and will be looking for a fairly good mid priced washer. The new Hoover Vision 1600 RPM Iconic looks like a very viable option.
I'll also be looking at some of the Zanussis

I really like the 8KG capacity and the wash action looks excellent. Nice to see the Hoover brand being innovative again. Are Candy repositioning them at a higher end again?

Also, I was wondering does anyone know anything about the Hoover HydroDryer?
It looks interesting.

Post# 206878 , Reply# 12   4/28/2007 at 09:03 (6,198 days old) by mrx ()        

Just reading some reviews online - some really diabolical reports about other models of Hoover machines. Are they THAT unreliable?!

Post# 206887 , Reply# 13   4/28/2007 at 09:43 (6,198 days old) by 2drumsallergy ()        
Hoover-Candy

 I'm an engineer, and the answer is no they are not unreliable machines. I no longer trust these reviews because in my experience Hoover-Candy are well made, quiet, stylish and very reasonably priced. The Vision HD Iconic is a very impressive machine, it has a 3 phase induction motor which makes it virtually silent washing.

I would recommend a Hoover washer to any of my customers and I wouldn't hesitate in buying one myself.

Lets not forget that Candy used to make very good machines, the Formula Stainless series were great machines and a lot of them are still running today.

David

Post# 206889 , Reply# 14   4/28/2007 at 10:15 (6,198 days old) by hotpointwf220 ()        

I would like to buy one of the hover visions 1600 spin they fit my expectations.

1 powerjet
2 clockwise spin lol
3 easy acess to filter
4 distribution wash/ rinse

except one thing is missing, the spin wash and rinse lol.

Post# 206947 , Reply# 15   4/28/2007 at 12:30 (6,198 days old) by mrx ()        
That's good to hear

 Well, I suppose the people who have faulty machines are far more likely to review them than those who have had a satisfactory experience.

Has the quality improved since the introduction of the Vision range though?

They look more "solid" for some reason.

Are candy positioing Hoover as their premium brand?

Post# 206955 , Reply# 16   4/28/2007 at 12:51 (6,198 days old) by 2drumsallergy ()        
Hoover as their premium brand

 I believe so, the Candy equivalent of the Hoover Vision HD is the GrandÓ. The GrandÓ although very similar to the HD is not as well specified and actually takes a 7KG load as opposed to the Visions 8KG.

David

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Post# 206990 , Reply# 17   4/28/2007 at 16:58 (6,197 days old) by sparkcymru ()        

I agree with David, I find Hoover-Candy machines very reliable and well made for the price they are. I sell them locally and none have given any trouble. My own Hoover old style vision (Candy made in Italy)is now 5 years old and will outlast certain other Italian made machines by some way. There are always duff machines about but I love the current Hoover Candy line up which is stylish and provides some entertaining wash and spin actions which is what we really love.

Steve

Post# 207059 , Reply# 18   4/29/2007 at 03:51 (6,197 days old) by lavamat_jon (UK)        

Steve - beautiful machine! I like the Hoover Visions... nice water levels too!

They have a very space age feel to them... I like them.

Jon

Post# 207098 , Reply# 19   4/29/2007 at 10:39 (6,197 days old) by rolls_rapide (.)        
Hoover Vision...

 I've seen the old Hoover Vision (with the tilted drum) on display, in a department store. Quite a stylish machine; pity the same cannot be said of the build quality. The outer shell was dented (thin metal) and a few of the 'touch' option buttons had lost their LED's.

Apparently those machines were built in Italy, in the Zerowatt factory, so they weren't British by any means: they based the design on the style of the Hoover Keymatic.

Post# 207107 , Reply# 20   4/29/2007 at 11:14 (6,197 days old) by sparkcymru ()        

Rolls-Rapide i was abit confused about your findings of the original Hoover vision. It is indeed Italian made but mine is as solid as my miele was cabinet wise. Thick steel and even a steel lid and all bolted on with steel bars and proper bolts. it has foam insulation on all inside panels including the rear access panel, foam cushioning between the lid and panels and even the underside is mainly enclosed ,Its beautifully laid out inside with careful routing of the wiring and attention to detail and design is obvious. I find it a superb piece of engineering and only wish more washers were built like this one instead of flimsy panels of steel and plastic lids. Was there more than one build i wonder?
steve

Post# 207168 , Reply# 21   4/29/2007 at 16:36 (6,196 days old) by rolls_rapide (.)        

No, I think only one factory made them. It was probably the riguers of the shop!

I was friendly with the staff until the shop closed. The manager of the electrical department once told me that they had a batch of Bosch washers that had perfect packaging, but when they were unpacked for display purposes, they were found to be damaged.

Appliances may leave the factory in pristine condition, but it is usually the middle-men and shop-floor customers that knock seven bells out of the machines.

Post# 207170 , Reply# 22   4/29/2007 at 16:38 (6,196 days old) by rolls_rapide (.)        
Ooops!

 It seems that I can't spell "rigours"! Gone all French - Silly me!

Post# 207313 , Reply# 23   4/30/2007 at 03:59 (6,196 days old) by mrx ()        

Things get beaten up quite badly in shops and stockrooms sometimes. I remember having a Siemens dishwasher delivered with a cracked display and serious damage to the internal components.

Siemens replaced it very promptly and the service guy who came out suspected it had been dropped (in its box) from a height. i.e. perhaps fell off a forklift truck in a warehouse somewhere.

The distribution of those machines is often outside the control of the manufactueres. Some of those delivery drivers can be very rough.

It's weird though in Ireland if you order a miele appliance, a miele van still comes up to your house to deliver it.

Post# 207587 , Reply# 24   5/1/2007 at 02:19 (6,195 days old) by islingtonsteve ()        

Thank for all the msg's

yeah, i'm real happy with it. one thing I was a little concerned about before I got it was all the talk about modern machines having over sensitive load balancing systems on them.

I haven't yet had a problem with it not being able to balance itself out in a short amount of time. occasionally it will reduce the spin speed on the interim spin because of excessive foam or unbalanced load.

My Vision is standing alone not surrounded by cabnits and is sitting on a floating floorboards and I still find it quiet, I was tempted by the invertor motor, but I do like the sound of a machine spinning, so decided to go with the brush motor. i'd normally go for the top spin speed as well, but was offered a great deal on the 1400 and I am so impressed with the dryness of clothes that are coming out. I can dry a good load of cottons (altho prolly not a full 8kg) in about 35 mins now compared to near 75 or so that came out of the bosch.

As for the Hydro dryer - I beleive the only difference is that they have added a pump and waste water hose so you can plumb the dryer in and not bother having to empty the condenser tank.

Post# 207701 , Reply# 25   5/1/2007 at 16:23 (6,194 days old) by mrx ()        

We've a crappy whirlpool in the apartment I rent. It's a brand new low end washer dryer and if you put in say, a single pair of jeans or even a wool item it won't spin!

You have to add towels and put it back on the spin cycle.

It's a complete joke of a machine. Wouldn't ever buy a whirlpool having used. Utter pile of ---

Post# 207750 , Reply# 26   5/1/2007 at 19:13 (6,194 days old) by rolls_rapide (.)        
Bosch versus Hoover...

 One thing that bugs me something rotten, is that Bosch (and Siemens) machines have a limited spin-alone speed restriction. My mother's machine spins at 1400rpm within the cottons cycles, but the separate spin programme is limited to 1200rpm! So if a load of towels failed to reach the top speed due to out-of-balance sensors switching in, the separate spin programme will not be as efficient as the equivalent on a Hoover.

I want total control!

Does a Miele 1800rpm machine allow you to select an 1800rpm spin-alone programme?

Post# 207775 , Reply# 27   5/1/2007 at 20:40 (6,194 days old) by lavamat_jon (UK)        

To get a seperate fast spin on our Bosch, you could trick it by starting the spin cycle, but as soon as it started draining, turn the dial to a cottons cycle then press start again. It would then do a seperate fast spin.

The Drain/Spin cycle on Miele's is the same as the spin cycle on the cottons - i.e. it runs at the machines maximum speed.

Jon

Post# 207952 , Reply# 28   5/2/2007 at 20:05 (6,193 days old) by arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)        
Love the Vision.

 I wonder if this will ever come to Australia?

Thanks for the pics and vids.

Post# 207954 , Reply# 29   5/2/2007 at 20:11 (6,193 days old) by arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)        
Love the Vision.

 I wonder if this will ever come to Australia?

Thanks for the pics and vids.


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