Thread Number: 1169
7 RINSES???!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! |
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Post# 55786   2/2/2005 at 21:10 (7,013 days old) by compwhiz ()   |   | |
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WHAT??? the 1952 whirlpool automatic washer did seven rinses???!!!! THat had to use tons of wa wa What a waste |
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Post# 55788 , Reply# 1   2/2/2005 at 21:21 (7,013 days old) by jasonl (Cookeville, TN)   |   | |
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3 spray rinses, 1 deep rinse, and 3 more spray rinses. I don't know how many gallons but it's not what you think. I don't think any front loader ever did 7 rinses. Mine does 4 with extra rinse turned on. |
Post# 55801 , Reply# 2   2/2/2005 at 23:04 (7,013 days old) by laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii)   |   | |
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Post# 55802 , Reply# 3   2/2/2005 at 23:37 (7,013 days old) by geoff (Cape Coral, FL)   |   | |
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Post# 55813 , Reply# 4   2/3/2005 at 03:31 (7,013 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Post# 55849 , Reply# 9   2/3/2005 at 11:57 (7,013 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)   |   | |
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They are using the word "rinse" quite loosely. The reason they say seven rinses is because the early Whirlpool and Kenmore had four spray rinses during the first two timer increments of the first spin cycle, one full deep rinse and two more spray rinses for the first increment of the final spin. The later machines with the two minute increment timer would have had 9 "rinses" total! While its perfectly fine in the UK, us Americans wouldn't want to use Vanish for pre-treating stains on clothes. Vanish would probably eat through fabrics on this side of the pond! LOL |
Post# 55854 , Reply# 10   2/3/2005 at 12:34 (7,013 days old) by partscounterman (Cortez, Colorado)   |   | |
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I don't think we should go back to solid tubs. Can you imagine the sand nightmare I would have after washing beach towels and swimsuits? I'd have to shop-vac that sucker out every time! |
Post# 55863 , Reply# 12   2/3/2005 at 14:27 (7,013 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)   |   | |
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On rinsing in front-loading washers: I think part of the reason we tend to see more suds in the final rinses of FL'ers is because there is so much raucous splashing/ vigorous water action. The waters of your average TL'er are fairly calm during agitation by comparison. The softness of the water makes a big difference, too. I once ran 6 rinses with a big load of towels just to see when the last of the suds would disappear. I have mechanically softened water. After 6 deep rinses, there were still some (albeit weak) suds hanging in there. I think the vintage orbital agitation Kelvinator/ABC-o-Matics would be the only machines to rival the water splashing of a FL'er. (Ok, you 60's GE/Frigidaire owners, begin posting now, LOL!) |
Post# 55880 , Reply# 15   2/3/2005 at 17:52 (7,012 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)   |   | |
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I know a lady who has her Maytag Performa washer set for auto-second rinse always and told me for towels, she runs it through a complete cycle with detergent and 2nd rinse, then resets the washer for another complete cycle, sans detergent with 2nd rinse (now the 5th rinse, actually) before she feels they are rinsed properly. I don't know how much water the Maytag uses in a regular cycle, but six changes of water at 25 gallons per fill comes to well over 150 gal. including the spray rinses... Now those are rinsed towels but to add a little irony to the decadence, she throws a couple of dryer sheets in with the load! Gets them perfectly free of all detergent residue, then smears perfumy schmeg all over them in the dryer... |
Post# 55882 , Reply# 16   2/3/2005 at 17:57 (7,012 days old) by westytoploader ()   |   | |
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I can understand a machine that guzzles water, but to do another cycle with a second rinse to rinse the towels out is a little much... |
Post# 55932 , Reply# 18   2/4/2005 at 08:58 (7,012 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)   |   | |
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I could be wrong, but I don't think the real test of rinsing comes from looking at the amount of suds in the sink during the drain cycle. Low sudsing detergent could still leave lots of residue in the clothes without suds in the sink. Try this: 1. Wash a load of towels in the machine of your choice using the detergent of your choice. 2. Dry the towels. 3. Fill a new or very clean bucket with very clean water (run the tap a few minutes), take one of the towels and agitate it in the clean water. 4. Take a new clear jar and fill it with water from the bucket. How clear is this water in your jar? 5. Label the jar with the washer name and detergent name. Save it to compare it with other machines and detergents later. 6. Now wash and rinse the same towels in an automatic washer without any detergent. Check the final rinse water in a clear jar to make sure its clean. 7. Repeat using the same detergent in a different washer or same washer--different detergent. The real test is how cloudy the water is. |
Post# 55979 , Reply# 20   2/4/2005 at 13:50 (7,012 days old) by kenwashesmonday (Carlstadt, NJ)   |   | |
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One reason the rinse water is not as dark as the wash water is that cold water does not make the dyes run like warm or hot water does. If you're doing a test for rinse water opacity, make sure the temperatures are consistant. Ken D. |
Post# 55980 , Reply# 21   2/4/2005 at 14:22 (7,012 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)   |   | |
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Post# 56104 , Reply# 24   2/6/2005 at 04:28 (7,010 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Don't know about powders, but beginning to think small amounts of foam left in the rinse when using liquid/gel detergents is normal. IIRC read on a surfactant supplier website or maybe it was a detergent maker's that seeing small amounts of foam in the rinse was normal, to a customer query. Do know I could never get Wisk HE to "rinse" clean. Cheer HE is a bit better and believe it or not Cheer Free & Gentle liquid (long as one uses very small amounts). Mainly use Cheer Free liquid on sheets and other lightly soiled items I'm laundering in cool/cold or warm water. |
Post# 56105 , Reply# 25   2/6/2005 at 04:35 (7,010 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Went to the locallaundrette last week to use their SQ 50lb washer and noticed something interesting. It seemed the washer was tumbling (one way)while water was coming into the unit and being drained away (flushing), for a period before each rinse. At least this is how it seemed to me as the water level did not start to rise (indicating filling) for an interval awhile after water began to enter the wheel. Could see and hear water coming through the detergent dispenser, but peering down into the drum there was little water there. Again it just seemed as if the drain was open and the water was merely flushing down the drain. If SQ home front loaders have this feature, it would make for interesting rinsing action. Launderess |