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Post# 211198   5/20/2007 at 17:37 (6,157 days old) by christfr (st louis mo)        

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before it tear into this amp i wanted to ask... she is all orig and when i got the machine 2 years ago it ran fine just seemed a little slow on the agi. then she has sat for most of the last 2 years. so when i got the machine out today to use her she spins fine but the aig is so so so slow im not sure whats wrong.. could the oil be that thick in that trans ? the belt and tension on the motor seems fine to me?




Post# 211205 , Reply# 1   5/20/2007 at 18:43 (6,157 days old) by bellalaundry (St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada)        
Sorry,

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I can't help you with your question, but, I have to say that is one beautiful Maytag! I am still a new collector with only a twin tub and a extractor. Can't wait to find real oldies like your's.

Good luck with your upcoming resotration.

Guy


Post# 211216 , Reply# 2   5/20/2007 at 19:06 (6,157 days old) by easyspindry (Winston-Salem, NC)        

Hey Chris.

Beautiful machine. A model newer than the one I grew up with.

I remember our Maytag not liking cold weather. Seems the agi would be slow until machine warmed up.

Has it been in an unheated space?

Jerry Gay


Post# 211223 , Reply# 3   5/20/2007 at 19:56 (6,157 days old) by gyrafoam (Wytheville, VA)        

Well, could it be bad seals? Water making its way into the tranny turning oil into grease?

Post# 211235 , Reply# 4   5/20/2007 at 20:09 (6,157 days old) by 48bencix (Sacramento CA)        
Hot Water

Chris,

Are you using hot water? The way those are built, they only fill with hot or warm water and the water is very warm. The transmission is built on the bottom of the tub and the water will warm up the oil.

Martin


Post# 211259 , Reply# 5   5/20/2007 at 22:08 (6,157 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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Hi Chris, beautiful washer! Either the transmission is tight or the clutch is slipping too much when turning in the direction of agitation. Try some very hot water first, although it is the month of May so the transmission probably isn't too cold now.

Post# 211287 , Reply# 6   5/21/2007 at 06:06 (6,156 days old) by christfr (st louis mo)        
hum

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well i did find in the repair book a note about the clutch slipping. and since the kids are in the garage i did wait till it was warmer out but the water in the tub was cool not warm. so i think im gonna lay it over and check out the clutch first. i hate the thought of having to crack that trans. but i guess worse things have happened ha ha.. thanks for the advice :-)

Post# 211289 , Reply# 7   5/21/2007 at 06:47 (6,156 days old) by tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

The hot water is not going to hit the top of the tranny until it is spun out of the inner tub, so if you are trying to warm up the tranny, fill the tub with hot water, then drain and as soon as the water gets into the outer tub, stop the machine to let the heat penetrate the aluminum tranny top.

Post# 211291 , Reply# 8   5/21/2007 at 06:48 (6,156 days old) by mayken4now (Panama City, Florida)        

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Chris:

Run the machine like others have said with hot water. Many of my machines (Maytag's) needed to have the transmission oil changed and cleaned out. They work like brand new once that task is done. It takes about 4 hours to do. Old oil turns to thick grease like substance and needs heated up before it gives in.

Steve


Post# 211323 , Reply# 9   5/21/2007 at 09:28 (6,156 days old) by christfr (st louis mo)        

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am gonna check out the clutch and go from there but first i need to tinker with the rollermatic and then have to work on the westy too.. gees it never ends

Post# 211354 , Reply# 10   5/21/2007 at 14:14 (6,156 days old) by laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii)        

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Hey Chris!,
Congrats on the Maytag gem!from my experiences in the slow agitation,I have found that(especially as old as she is)dissasembling the trans,cleaning the gears and relubeing the entire trans after draining it and thoroughly cleaning all the parts,then relubing it and resealing it,replacing a new seal and reassembling the entire transmission.This not only quiets the unit down but also stops all MAJOR problems that may occur from the age of the washer and its sitting out of use for decades.






















































































































































































Post# 211360 , Reply# 11   5/21/2007 at 14:53 (6,156 days old) by 48bencix (Sacramento CA)        
3 Tubs

The AMP has 3 tubs. The perforated tub, which holds the washload, sits inside a solid tub, these two are connected and spin together. You can see the bolts in the interior shot, those chrome bolts connect the two tubs together. The outer (3rd) tub which collects the spun out water is stationary.

But the transmission is on the bottom of the solid tub, which is full of water during the washing operation. The transmission spins with the tub(s). I believe this is the construction of this machine. So when the machine fills, that water warms the oil.

By the way, if an AMP appears to operate well, is there any point of changing 57 year old oil? If it is sealed in there, does it deteriorate?

Martin


Post# 211513 , Reply# 12   5/22/2007 at 06:27 (6,155 days old) by christfr (st louis mo)        

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well yea the oil does get thicker and less free flowing as it ages. i still have to tilt her over and look at the clutch i sure hope the trans isnt leaking down its shaft like the 61 did. but it can all be re done.. when i had the 61 apart the oil in there had gotten rather thick but after fresh oil was in there it was like day and night diff. so i guess its time to tear another tag apart

Post# 213139 , Reply# 13   5/30/2007 at 06:26 (6,147 days old) by christfr (st louis mo)        
another question

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found my old service book for this baby and it says the trans is packed with some type of grease not oil..so im wonderin if i remove the trans and like half of the grease in there and top it off with trans oil shouldnt that sort of mix together and like let the trans move with more ease or will that cause an oil leak down the shaft?? or is there an o ring seal on the shaft like oh lets say my 61 tag?


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