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Post# 212149 5/25/2007 at 07:55 (6,180 days old) by mistereric  (New Jersey (Taylor Ham)) |
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Good morning, ladies and gents. I've been working on my old frogeye kenmore and I've managed to get it a little closer to working, but we're still having issues. When I got it, the motor was working but the belt wasn't moving. I had taken off the belt to see if the transmission was locked, and thankfully it wasn't. Discovered the pump was, though, so after some extensive cleaning and oiling, I got it working again... most likely still have to replace it though. Anyway, I put the belt back on and was happy to see it agitate, slowly at first, and then after a bit it seemed about normal. Only weird thing was that the motor kept changing pitch- it would sound like a normal belt-drive for a bit, and then it seemed to overheat and switch into a higher pitched noise without the usual low growling sounds. Agitation stayed normal, though. When we get to spin, the machine usually gives a weak start if the motor had been in standard low-growl mode. If it wasn't, I get nothing. Even when the motor is happy, it still usually takes a push to get the basket spinning, and at that, it only lasts a few seconds until the motor overheats and clicks into the weaker mode, and the basket comes to a stop. The transmission and pump seem to move pretty freely. I've come to two possible conclusions. 1. There is a brake thats not releasing and causing the motor to have to work too hard, and it overheats partially. or 2. The motor should be able to handle the load but it can't because its faulty. I've cleaned off all the old gunky grease and oil and reoiled everything that seemed to need it, and regreased the wigwag assembly as best I could. Anyone out there have any thoughts? Thanks in advance! | ||
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Post# 212150 , Reply# 1 5/25/2007 at 07:56 (6,180 days old) by mistereric (New Jersey (Taylor Ham)) |
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I made a little movie showing her trying to get into spin, and failing.
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Post# 212151 , Reply# 2 5/25/2007 at 08:17 (6,180 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) |
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Hi Eric, Since I'm at work I can't see the video now (they block out video sites) so I will make some guesses. When the brake is engaged, the spin clutch is pulled away from the drive pulley, so unless something is completey off, your idea #1 shouldn't ever be the case in a Whirlpool/Kenmore belt drive washer. Sometimes the clutch adjustment nut is set for too much pressure and this doesn't allow the clutch to slip causing the motor to lock up during the start of spin, but this shouldn't be the case if the strange noises happen during agitation as well. The motor sounds funny? Did you replace the belt? I suspect the motor might be having problems. I'm pretty sure you could use any motor out of any belt drive Whirlpool/Kenmore washer. Maybe a used parts place might have one. | ||
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Post# 212156 , Reply# 3 5/25/2007 at 08:27 (6,180 days old) by coldspot66 (Plymouth, Mass) |
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Sounds like stiff bearings in the motor. | ||
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Post# 212158 , Reply# 4 5/25/2007 at 08:35 (6,180 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!) |
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The lid is missing! | ||
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Post# 212160 , Reply# 5 5/25/2007 at 08:47 (6,180 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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Sounds like | ||
| Post# 212440 , Reply# 6 5/26/2007 at 19:14 (6,178 days old) by laundryshark (Cedar Rapids, Iowa) | ||
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Frog Eyed Lady Poor thang! Sounds like she's struggling. O well. Won't be too long and you'll have her nursed back to good health before you know it. Keep up the good work.--Laundry Shark | ||
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Post# 212974 , Reply# 7 5/29/2007 at 09:44 (6,176 days old) by mistereric (New Jersey (Taylor Ham)) |
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okay now... | ||
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Post# 212975 , Reply# 8 5/29/2007 at 09:45 (6,176 days old) by mistereric (New Jersey (Taylor Ham)) |
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oh... | ||
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Post# 212996 , Reply# 9 5/29/2007 at 12:22 (6,175 days old) by coldspot66 (Plymouth, Mass) |
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I do have a few belt drive motors: one and 2 speed. If it's similar to the later belt drive motors, it's yours for the cost of shipping. A pic would help. Does the motor pulley turn freely, or is it binding at all? | ||
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Post# 212999 , Reply# 10 5/29/2007 at 12:58 (6,175 days old) by mistereric (New Jersey (Taylor Ham)) |
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Post# 214067 , Reply# 13 6/3/2007 at 18:40 (6,170 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) |
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Post# 214068 , Reply# 14 6/3/2007 at 18:40 (6,170 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) |
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Post# 214281 , Reply# 17 6/4/2007 at 17:24 (6,169 days old) by mistereric (New Jersey (Taylor Ham)) |
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the motor | ||
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Post# 214814 , Reply# 18 6/7/2007 at 11:40 (6,166 days old) by mistereric (New Jersey (Taylor Ham)) |
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Post# 214901 , Reply# 19 6/7/2007 at 20:42 (6,166 days old) by coldspot66 (Plymouth, Mass) |
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Can you get a pic of the motor? I have a few round motors that fit 60's Kenmores and square throwaway 2 speed motors also. | ||
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Post# 214997 , Reply# 20 6/8/2007 at 11:40 (6,165 days old) by mistereric (New Jersey (Taylor Ham)) |
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Its exactly the same as the one on the left side of this pic, from Robert's restoration. There are 3 blue wires that attach to it. CLICK HERE TO GO TO mistereric's LINK 
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Post# 215045 , Reply# 21 6/8/2007 at 19:53 (6,165 days old) by coldspot66 (Plymouth, Mass) |
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I do have a 2 speed motor similar to that. Here is a pic. 
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Post# 215070 , Reply# 22 6/8/2007 at 22:28 (6,165 days old) by mistereric (New Jersey (Taylor Ham)) |
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Post# 215100 , Reply# 23 6/9/2007 at 08:23 (6,165 days old) by coldspot66 (Plymouth, Mass) |
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The terminals correspond to wire color....blue for normal speed, orange for slow speed and white for neutral. Just see which terminals on your machine correspond to those. If it has a "modern fabric" cycle, then it should be a 2 speed motor. | ||
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Post# 215117 , Reply# 24 6/9/2007 at 10:00 (6,165 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) |
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Post# 215525 , Reply# 25 6/11/2007 at 20:50 (6,162 days old) by mistereric (New Jersey (Taylor Ham)) |
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