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Is my dishwasher loaded correctly?
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Post# 221231   7/7/2007 at 15:29 (6,109 days old) by exploder3211 ()        

Ok
Last night i made fried chciken brests, mac n chese, corn and apple sauce. Put everything in the hotpoint and used a tab in the open cup and some wal mart brand regular soap in the closed cup. Is this loaded correctly? What would you do to change it? I am giving it a whirl with just the wal amrt branded soap in both cups on the hot start option (vs. the heavy wash option).. I have never had fet on goop on stuff until last night. DO you think this was because i used the heavy wash option (insted of the hot start option?), the way i loaded or? I usualy use the tab and wal mart brand soap in the cup for loads like this, so i know this is not to fault.





Post# 221232 , Reply# 1   7/7/2007 at 15:30 (6,109 days old) by exploder3211 ()        

Heres the top rack

Post# 221236 , Reply# 2   7/7/2007 at 16:01 (6,109 days old) by johnb300m (Chicago)        

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Looks good to me.
one thing...

that curvy glass in the front right corner will NOT get clean.
it's falling over and not facing the center spray tower.
here's my rule, and it almost always works.
Tall glasses in the inner rack rows, shorter glasses in the outer rack rows.


Post# 221237 , Reply# 3   7/7/2007 at 16:06 (6,109 days old) by glamwales ()        

Im not sure on american dishwashers , but i would expect the long frying pan spat and spoon to obstruct the upper rack wash arm.

come to mention it , is there a upper wash arm ?


Post# 221239 , Reply# 4   7/7/2007 at 16:18 (6,109 days old) by exploder3211 ()        

No upper arm.. LoL, i added a blue cup and a gree butter container that some how did not get pictured

Post# 221240 , Reply# 5   7/7/2007 at 16:21 (6,109 days old) by maytagbear (N.E. Ohio)        
There is probably not an upper

wash arm, and if there is, it would be on the ceiling of the tank. If there is anything, it is more likely to be a small "constant rinse" arm than a full-size one with venturis.


Chad, I would say 1) Nicely loaded, and 2) are you guys allergic to green vegetables?Results?



Lawrence/Maytagbear


Post# 221269 , Reply# 6   7/7/2007 at 20:22 (6,109 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Ya did fine loading. Did stuff not come clean? Other than the loading question, what's the issue here?

No, this is a BOL Hotpoint. It has no 3rd level constant rinse. Just the poop up tower in the middle of the bottom rack. Hot Start is 'recent" "invention" on these machines. I've seen the cycle sequence that it adds about 3 gallons more water and about 20 or so minutes to the cycle, but I don't know what actually happens in that added 20 to 30 minutes vs. just heavy soil. Personally, id idn't have good luck with Wally World branded dtergent, the box I tried. So I've never bought another one. And personally I odn't like tabs cuz ya can't vary the dosage.


Post# 221289 , Reply# 7   7/7/2007 at 21:15 (6,109 days old) by exploder3211 ()        

Nothing comes clean at all. Took the trap apart and spray arm off and cleaned both.. Dishwasher is make a much diffrent woosh woosh (deeper and not as loud)

Post# 221319 , Reply# 8   7/8/2007 at 03:34 (6,109 days old) by spankomatic (Ukiah,CA)        
Bad Dishwasher ==>get a Kitchenaid or Kenmore

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I had a Hot Point years ago in a rental. Same style with the tower. Had the same problem. Land lords sent the repair people out twice. They never were able to get the machine to work properly. I moved. Now I have Magic Chef in the unit I'm in now. I have had GE and Magic Chef dishwashers with the same design. All are bad machines. I find that if you only load dishes on the bottom rack the lower spray arm will get the upper rack somewhat clean. Large bowls and pans on the bottom rack block the spray to the top rack. I don't think even your bottom spray arm is turning like it should and very doubtfull that the "tower" is erecting like it should. The filtration system in these machines only filers large objects like a steak.

Recomendation: Don't spend anymore time on it or money. Spend your time looking for a new dishwasher (Kitchenaid) and your money on a machine the washes dishes like it is supose to.

I like Kitchenaid. I like the loading features. You don't have to load around the "tower" on the lower rack. They have a good filtration system so you don't have to pre rinse the dishes. Scrape and load. That easy! They come out CLEAN. You do not need top of the line Kitchenaid to get clean dishes. I would pick a model with Sani Cycle. I have also had Kenmore portable dishwasher which is very similar to the Kitchenaid that I was very happy with also. Photo's are of the Kenmore I had. Good machine.

Keep us posted.....

Jim


Post# 221320 , Reply# 9   7/8/2007 at 03:36 (6,109 days old) by spankomatic (Ukiah,CA)        
Kenmore Portable Dishwasher

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Post# 221321 , Reply# 10   7/8/2007 at 03:38 (6,109 days old) by spankomatic (Ukiah,CA)        
Kenmore Portable Dishwasher

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Post# 221331 , Reply# 11   7/8/2007 at 08:09 (6,109 days old) by spankomatic (Ukiah,CA)        

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Note the built in dishwasher in the last photo to the right of my portable. It is a GE with "tower" that came with the apartment. Same problems,did not clean dishes.

Post# 221340 , Reply# 12   7/8/2007 at 08:58 (6,108 days old) by cvillewasherbo ()        
My old GE

I have a really old GE dishwasher it does a SUPER job. It's a water hog, I use Cascade or Electrasol powder with enzymes amd my water is hot. Mine has the old wide flat lower wash arm and the tower (that sticks up somewhat all of the time--and there's a raised section of rack where you can put small plates). Heated drying only. Whole cycle is done in an hour.
Courtney in Waynesboro VA


Post# 221347 , Reply# 13   7/8/2007 at 09:16 (6,108 days old) by exploder3211 ()        

LoL Can't change it out cause its an apartment
Have a couple diffrent idead am going tp play with


Post# 221526 , Reply# 14   7/9/2007 at 00:51 (6,108 days old) by spankomatic (Ukiah,CA)        
Apartment dishwasher problems

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1. Call managment and complain. You can only hope for a new one. (if the machine HAPPENED to flood the place,they will change it out) They don't like water damage.

2. Get a portable dishwasher like I did.

3. Move

Keep us posted!
Jim


Post# 221539 , Reply# 15   7/9/2007 at 04:06 (6,108 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains)        
Chad,

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Basically - except for the glass in the front right hand corner, I think it is fine.
These machines can and do clean ok, you just have to give them a fighting chance. When I have to use one in the US, I do the following and it works well (all the purists please stop reading here).
1) A pre-rinse is a must.
2) Use the hottest water you can get, even if that means running the tap before hand. Wasteful, unless the water has a use.
3) Use enzymes (Wally Mart, even if I don't like them has a very high enzyme detergent) but NOT with any other detergent. The chlorine bleach in the other detergents kills the enzymes!
4) Add one tablespoon of baking soda to the detergent cup. If it makes a difference, then your water is too hard to wash well without help. There are cheaper water softeners, but since you eat and drink from these things, I'd stay away from them. Work down from the tablespoon until you find what works.
5) The "tower of power" is not that bad, it just doesn't do corners.
6) If the wash cycle is unheated, I have found it helps enormously to reset the timer so it washes twice with the same water. Dishwasher detergents are not like washing machine detergents, they don't lose all their effectiveness after 15 minutes.

Good luck and let us know..oh, and you may be pre-rinsing too well in the sink before hand. There has to be some grease or oil on the plates for the detergents to build "soap" to clean with.
By the way, when is your husband finally going to help around the house? If women want men like that fine, but ladies like us don't have to put up with it. You can't keep those nails pretty and your "do" wavy if you spend all your time on your knees.
Er, let's rephrase that before Toggles reads this...


Post# 221568 , Reply# 16   7/9/2007 at 09:11 (6,107 days old) by exploder3211 ()        

I don't let my husband touch things, like the washer, dishwasher, etc.. He messes them up...
Perfect example (and how i missed this littlepiece of tape baffles me)
HE admitted to washing CAR PARTS in this dishwasher.. The pop up spray arm would have gotten in his way, so he taped it down.. Once he relized what a mess he made, he rand several cycles with lcb empty and cleaned it up and took all of the tape off, cept what was covering the top little hole and what was stuck down in there.. I got it fixed.. Also found another older ge rack and am going to experiment with this as well.


Post# 221583 , Reply# 17   7/9/2007 at 11:02 (6,107 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains)        
he cleans...

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Chad, dahling, they do say foxglove makes the most lovely salad topping...and, unless they are testing directly for it, it looks like his heart...just...gave...out. Before the politically correct crowd freak, just kidding. Do not try this at home, children. That man will live because he got prompt medical attention.

I shudder to think what goes (on) in the washing machine when you aren't home.


Post# 221631 , Reply# 18   7/9/2007 at 17:22 (6,107 days old) by exploder3211 ()        

Nothing.. He doesnt do laundry and can't figure out the new washer.. Hasn't touched the new washer at all, and he won't touch the dishwasher again.. He won't tell me what he bathed in there either...

Post# 223811 , Reply# 19   7/19/2007 at 18:38 (6,097 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        
Yes please eat green foods for your health, and NOT with but

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I'd probably have placed the elecrtic cooker's surface-element reflector pan hole-side down.

And the white crock pot-ish thing (back left) such that the inside faced the middle of the machine.

Love those WhirlMore older style two door (non tall-tub) machines, they are great!


Post# 223892 , Reply# 20   7/19/2007 at 22:42 (6,097 days old) by exploder3211 ()        

Who knows waht he washed// But it won't happen again

Post# 223926 , Reply# 21   7/20/2007 at 06:02 (6,097 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        
Learn to clean, and throw away junk. It wont kill ya

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I once noticed a family who used their DW for pot storage. I also saw them spay insecticide into it while full of pots.

EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW.

That is downright unhealthy.
Roaches in a private house (in this area/climate) is not acceptable, either.




Post# 224107 , Reply# 22   7/20/2007 at 23:03 (6,096 days old) by exploder3211 ()        

Pot Storage..
Do you mean this kinda pot?


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Post# 224158 , Reply# 23   7/21/2007 at 06:39 (6,096 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        
Pots and pans

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Cooking vessels is what I meant, actually!

Post# 224223 , Reply# 24   7/21/2007 at 12:46 (6,095 days old) by exploder3211 ()        

K makin sure

Post# 224306 , Reply# 25   7/21/2007 at 17:28 (6,095 days old) by mrcleanjeans (milwaukee wi)        
the tower won't scour

there's NO WAY that the so called Power Tower will reach under all parts of the top rack.The large items up there tilted toward it should get hit but not the glasses to the right, especially the wrongly tilted glass.I am not a tower fan.

Post# 224789 , Reply# 26   7/23/2007 at 22:04 (6,093 days old) by washernut ()        

My GE Profile dishwasher died on Dec. 23rd last year and I had 16 people coming for Xmas dinner. So, I ran out the 24th and was fortunate to find a dishwasher actually in stock at Home Depot. It was far from what I would have chosen if the situation had been different. But, the thought of standing at the sink for hours on Xmas day made it an easier choice. I ended up with a BOL Maytag machine with the tower in the center. My GE used to get everything pretty much clean regardless of how hap hazard it was loaded. However, the Maytag is a different story. What I have found is if you can fit your larger items into the top rack it will allow the water to go up through the bottom and hit the dishes on top. Especially that crock pot liner that you have...I have the same one and it will fit in my top rack and comes clean everytime.
Hope this helps
Bill



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