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Post# 221417   7/8/2007 at 15:16 (6,129 days old) by jwilson00 ()        

ok so my partner let me have a new toy and here it is, an AEG Lava Logic LL1620 and i love it!




Post# 221419 , Reply# 1   7/8/2007 at 15:18 (6,129 days old) by jwilson00 ()        

2nd pic

Post# 221420 , Reply# 2   7/8/2007 at 15:20 (6,129 days old) by jwilson00 ()        

3rd pic

Post# 221423 , Reply# 3   7/8/2007 at 15:48 (6,129 days old) by platinum6 ()        

That's a very nice high-end AEG you've got there, it looks great. I especially like the control panel with it's large digital display where it shows plenty of info on the programme and other stuff as well.

I wonder if there'll be any videos of it?



Post# 221424 , Reply# 4   7/8/2007 at 16:08 (6,129 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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Very nice-looking washer! A question for you: What does the 'Moisture 44%' indicator mean?

Post# 221437 , Reply# 5   7/8/2007 at 17:20 (6,129 days old) by jwilson00 ()        
moisture + videos

Its the amount of moisture that will remain in the clothes at the end of the wash cycle, it works it out from the load size and spin.

And of course there will be some videos, as soon as my day off rolls around on friday (such a long time away :( )

For the linen/easy care cycle (the general cycle) the washer senses what type of clothing it has in and adjusts the wash accordingly. My favs so far are the delicates and the fashion programmes, nice high water levels with a decent drum speed.


Post# 221442 , Reply# 6   7/8/2007 at 17:36 (6,129 days old) by dj-gabriele ()        

I love that machine! It is very TOL! I bet you love it!

Post# 221531 , Reply# 7   7/9/2007 at 01:54 (6,129 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom)        

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Excellent choice jay!
We've had our AEG for 4years and its been excellent! Can't wait to see more of it!

Darren


Post# 221556 , Reply# 8   7/9/2007 at 07:23 (6,128 days old) by lavamat78800 ()        

very nice machine!
I hope you won´t use it so often, my AEG Lavamat 78800 (1800 rpm) 2 years old got broken on Saturday.
The engine went to high and got over-heated.


Post# 221607 , Reply# 9   7/9/2007 at 14:09 (6,128 days old) by jwilson00 ()        

Hey darren! :)

OMG lasted two years?! still under warranty? i registerd the 5 yr warrenty as soon as i got it. made me laugh when i was reading the terms and conditions, not protected against war or invaison :)


Post# 221612 , Reply# 10   7/9/2007 at 14:59 (6,128 days old) by mrx ()        
Apple

Apple warns that the warranty does not cover environmental devastation caused if this computer is used to operate a nuclear, chemical or similar installation!!

on your iMac!


Post# 221629 , Reply# 11   7/9/2007 at 16:48 (6,128 days old) by timon90 (Norway)        
AEG....

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Just realize it, AEG is Zanussi parts, put together in Germany! They're not named AEG-Electrolux for nothing... Here in Norway, extreemly many AEG machines are beeing throwed away before they reach the age of 2 years! I already have a AEG Lavatherm T56400 dryer, that is'nt 1(one) year yet! AEG washers is eating electronics, drum bearings and motors! I swear to Asko, as long as they are real Asko's, and is made in Sweden.

Post# 221639 , Reply# 12   7/9/2007 at 18:05 (6,128 days old) by platinum6 ()        

Oh dear, That's not the news we want to hear about AEG's. They're meant to be reliable machines but it looks like they don't seem to be.

Faulty batch of them perhaps?



Post# 221759 , Reply# 13   7/10/2007 at 05:56 (6,127 days old) by lavamat78800 ()        

And don´t forget, my AEG doesn´t only have a broken motor, it also has broken drum bearings.

Post# 221764 , Reply# 14   7/10/2007 at 07:01 (6,127 days old) by maytagbear (N.E. Ohio)        
Well----

It's still really pretty, and I hope that this is one of the more reliable ones!


I do love the mix of simplified controls, yet lots of information on the screen.


Enjoy!


Lawrence/Maytagbear


Post# 221774 , Reply# 15   7/10/2007 at 08:35 (6,127 days old) by lederstiefel1 ()        
AEG

AEG, once Allgemeine Electricitäts-Gesellschaft Berlin, is no longer what it used to be! They closed the factory, kicked out the staff and now use the once famous name for their cheap built products as long as the reputation of this high quality product endures...

Ralf



Post# 221806 , Reply# 16   7/10/2007 at 14:32 (6,127 days old) by jwilson00 ()        

what sold the deal was the 5 yr warrenty and i loved the look of it, boggles my partners mind but he's not allowed to touch lol so its a good thing :)
and i saw another site that highly rated their service department, so i should have at least 5 yrs with it, and my mum and nans +grandads AEGs are still going strong so far, my mums is amazing me the amount that has and still is going through it, but well see, you'll all be the first to know if it packs up lol :)


Post# 221807 , Reply# 17   7/10/2007 at 14:45 (6,127 days old) by askomiele (Belgium Ghent)        

About asko... dunno witch applainces are real asko's witch are not? Same thing witch AEG Bosch stik to my olympia I know they are build in Belgium and not rebadged or anything like that...

Post# 221808 , Reply# 18   7/10/2007 at 14:53 (6,127 days old) by jwilson00 ()        

i dont know how long ago aeg quality went down, i know my machine is older, as its been sitting at the warehosue for a while and pictures of the same model now have the aqua control written on them and mine dont (whether that makes a difference i dont know)

Post# 221811 , Reply# 19   7/10/2007 at 15:59 (6,127 days old) by timon90 (Norway)        
AEG

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quality disappeared when AEG/Electrolux began to produce machines with 30cm door diameter.

And "real" Asko machines is produced in Sweden, "unreal" Asko's, is produced in Finland or Italy, but those "unreal's" is only toploaders!


Post# 221812 , Reply# 20   7/10/2007 at 16:12 (6,127 days old) by rolls_rapide (.)        
AEG

I had a 1600rpm model bought in 1998, lasted 3 years, then the drum bearings went. The machine was not cheap, something like £700-odd.

I currently have a Zanussi, and it seems okay just now (6 years old), but there is slight vertical movement of the drum within the tub. I'm just waiting for the day the bearings give up the ghost.


Post# 221814 , Reply# 21   7/10/2007 at 16:28 (6,127 days old) by jwilson00 ()        
zanussi

what zanussi model do you have? me mum used to have a zanussi nexus loved it to pieces, think that lasted around 6 -7 yrs.

Post# 221831 , Reply# 22   7/10/2007 at 17:53 (6,127 days old) by lavamat_jon (UK)        

Jay! You shouldn't have too much trouble with your AEG, they're very nice machines. They're not there with Miele (I used to have an AEG and Miele set up side my side back in the good old days), but definitely an improvement over other manufacturers.

In terms of reliability I wouldn't worry too much - Electrolux have the second best washer design IMO to Miele and Maytasko on the British market, I always recommend to people who are buying a new washer to buy a Zanussi if they're spending anything between £200 to £400, and to splash out on a Miele if they're wanting to pay more. I must admit, though, that my AEG does have an electronic blip every now and then in that it won't tumble on just the 40*C cottons cycle when time save is selected, but apart from that I've had no issues at all. Although, compared to the Miele, the Miele seems to do the job much faster, more smoothly and more "professionally" whereas the cycles on the AEG teetered on the long side, for a modern machine you can't go wrong with an Elux machine if you don't want to go the Miele route. After all, I'm sure he wouldn't mind me saying but Darren's mums is ALWAYS either on, or has laundry in there that's waiting there to be unloaded, when I'm round his, and his is still going strong 4 years later! I know several people with XC design Zanussi's that are getting on to a good age now which are used a lot which are still going - so I wouldn't worry.

Jon


Post# 221901 , Reply# 23   7/11/2007 at 05:37 (6,126 days old) by timon90 (Norway)        
Zanussi

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It's normal to have a little vertical movement in the drum on Zanussi, AEG and Electrolux...

Post# 222126 , Reply# 24   7/12/2007 at 05:51 (6,125 days old) by lavamat78800 ()        

Could anybody of you explain me what vertical movements mean in detail?

Post# 222753 , Reply# 25   7/15/2007 at 06:49 (6,122 days old) by jwilson00 ()        
additional main wash water

hey peeps,

was wondering if ya could explain summit for me, during the linen/easy cares cycle, sometimes the washer will fill with more water just before the end of the main wash and sometimes it wont, i know on the models both my mum and nan have this happens everytime on the cottons and easycare cycles.

I know my model is supposed to have the turbity sensor and was wondering whether this has anything to do with it, also the water jet will sometimes stay permanatley on during the rinse cycles and other times it'll come on, then off, then on and so forth until the rinsing is complete.


Post# 222775 , Reply# 26   7/15/2007 at 09:25 (6,122 days old) by mattywashboy (Perth, Western Australia)        

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hi
great washer
the idea behind adding more water i believe is to cool down the hot water thus to cool down the clothes and reduce the risk of shock creasing during the spin after the main wash.It would occur probably near the end of a 60* and above wash cycle and may not on a 40 or 30 degrees cycle.
Matt


Post# 222776 , Reply# 27   7/15/2007 at 09:30 (6,122 days old) by jwilson00 ()        

thats what i would of thought, although it can do it on a 40, 50 or 60, havent seen it happen when washing towels though. mums and nans will always do it regardless or temperature. i always remember they were the first washer i'd seen that only does 2 rinses on a standard cycle. delicates, easy iron, fashion programmes will always do 3 but there are no intern spin between.

Post# 222979 , Reply# 28   7/16/2007 at 04:07 (6,122 days old) by jwilson00 ()        
video

ok first video, just the start of the programme, linen/easy cares.

CLICK HERE TO GO TO jwilson00's LINK


Post# 222990 , Reply# 29   7/16/2007 at 05:13 (6,122 days old) by lavamat_jon (UK)        

Jay - on my AEG, as the Cottons/Linens and Easy Cares is an automatic programme which will perform either a cottons or easy cares cycle depending on what it senses, it will change some of the programme stages depending on the load. If it detected it was an easy cares load, my 86741 would delete a rinse, wouldn't spin after the wash, only spin at 800rpm for a short time between rinses, and would add a cooling stage. Whereas if it detected it was a cottons load it would do the normal amount of rinses, spin at 800 after the wash, 1200 after rinse 1 and what sounded like 1400-1600 after rinse 2, and obviously the full 1600 after the final rinse.

I'm not sure if you can on your particular model, but on my AEG you can programme the machine to do the cooldown rinse at the end of cottons cycles - I always had this activated as I found it actually prevented suds locks in the wash spin. It would do this at any temperature, even at 20*C.

If you select the sensitive option this will also activate a cooldown cycle. I always thought of this very similar to the Easy Cares button on AEG machines of yesteryear - instead of a vigorous wash action it would tumble nice and gently, it would perform 5 rinses with no spins after the wash or rinse 1, and the rinses would vary between a high to a very high level (high being where the door glass is flat, very high being halfway up the window!).

I do miss the 86741 - was a very flexible, well performing machine. Doesn't do some things quite as good as a Miele, but some things better (I preferred the spin cycle on the AEG), and performance wise it comes pretty close. The only thing that really pissed me off about it was how if you selected time saver, my model would cut out the nice final spin, which wa sa burst, back to distribute, 1 min 800, back to distribute, then profiling up through 800/1000/1200/1400/1600 and maintaining 1600 for about 4 minutes - on time saver it would burst, distribute, and then just work its way up to 1600 as normal but only stayed at 1600 for a minute resulting in a 3 minute final spin which was alright for most clothes, but not for towels. Reliability wise is questionable, from what this thread shows, but as I've said before both Darren and I have had AEG machines from the same range in 2003/4 and have never had major problems.

Hope you enjoy the machine!

Jon


Post# 222991 , Reply# 30   7/16/2007 at 05:17 (6,122 days old) by jwilson00 ()        
2nd vid

main wash,

hey jon, yeah it does have the sensor which i did wonder why it does different things.


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Post# 222994 , Reply# 31   7/16/2007 at 05:35 (6,121 days old) by lavamat_jon (UK)        

Jay - so reminiscent of my 86741 :-). Hopefully it'll be up and running once my laundry studio is set up in the garage...

Did you get my text? :-)


Post# 222997 , Reply# 32   7/16/2007 at 06:07 (6,121 days old) by jwilson00 ()        
3rd

rinse cycle

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Post# 222998 , Reply# 33   7/16/2007 at 06:08 (6,121 days old) by lavamat78800 ()        

My AEG Lavamat 78800 does a cool down at Easy Cares, Boil Wash, and at short wash cycles.
The Jet-System is always turned on at the short wash-cycles.
At Easy Cares and Boilwash not.
If I pushed Sensitiv ist always turns on off..on..off..
Donßt knwo why..


Post# 223000 , Reply# 34   7/16/2007 at 06:12 (6,121 days old) by lavamat78800 ()        

Thats my AEG!

Post# 223001 , Reply# 35   7/16/2007 at 06:14 (6,121 days old) by lavamat78800 ()        

Privileg!

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Post# 223030 , Reply# 36   7/16/2007 at 08:40 (6,121 days old) by jwilson00 ()        

just another vid of the delicates 40, do the darks on this, love the high water levels.

your aeg looks just like me nans L74810 but that one doesnt have the jet. what was the model of the other pic? i know in germany u can get the lava logic with the 1800 spin, wonder if that'll come here.


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Post# 223059 , Reply# 37   7/16/2007 at 11:39 (6,121 days old) by lavamat78800 ()        

The modell of the other Pic was a Privileg, an other german brand, but AEG, Privileg , Zanker get their machine by Electrolux.
Privileg is a bit cheaper.
The machine on the pic also has 1800 rpm.


Post# 223063 , Reply# 38   7/16/2007 at 12:16 (6,121 days old) by jwilson00 ()        

just another vid of the final spin

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Post# 223367 , Reply# 39   7/17/2007 at 17:08 (6,120 days old) by rolls_rapide (.)        

Jwilson00: the Zanussi is the IZ 16 S. The one with the tilted drum.

Lavamat78800: the movement I referred to, is the inner drum moving within the outer wash-tub. When empty, if you try to push up the inner drum, using your fingertips upon the drum rim. You might be able to identify a slight free movement as you lift up and release. On some makes there is absolutely no movement at all; on others there can be a fraction of a millimetre. On a faulty machine with bearing failure, there can be several millimetres movement.


Post# 223484 , Reply# 40   7/18/2007 at 05:53 (6,119 days old) by lavamat78800 ()        

Sometimes I think that the wash-tub doesn´t run right.

Post# 223791 , Reply# 41   7/19/2007 at 16:57 (6,118 days old) by rolls_rapide (.)        
Lavamat78800

When you turn the drum by hand, does it rotate smoothly, or does it feel as though it 'CLUNKS'? This could indicate that the bearings or support spider are faulty.

Post# 223988 , Reply# 42   7/20/2007 at 10:51 (6,117 days old) by lavamat78800 ()        

It clanks and whent it´s spinning it´s knocking.
Sometimes the tub moves heavily sometimes not.



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