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A New Interface for the Super Unimatic 2.0
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Post# 224115   7/20/2007 at 23:37 (6,095 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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I can never figure out which forum to post this subject in as it really can fit in all three forums here. I've made some improvements/updates to my Super Unimatic washer that I wanted to share with everyone. As many of you all know over the past couple of years I've slowly built and improved upon a home made washer from scratch using parts from washers of all kinds and built a computer interface to run the machine
In assembling the machine I've used parts as early as 1950 all the way through modern washer parts of 2007, as well as some dishwasher parts. It is run by an older computer via my home made relay boards with software I've written in Visual Basic. The main new features I’ve added this year are
- a water flow sensor to measure the amount of water the washer is using at any point in the cycle as well as to tell me the total water usage
- I changed the recirculation nozzle to one from an old 60's/70's Kenmore combo spray nozzle, it produces a nice fan style spray during the spinning prewash
- I’ve completely rebuilt the Computer/Washer interface making it completely enclosed and water tight by using a Rubbermaid container
Here are some pictures of the machine and its components, over the weekend I will take some more shots of the machine running as well as screen captures or the updated software


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Post# 224116 , Reply# 1   7/20/2007 at 23:50 (6,095 days old) by mayfan69 (Brisbane Queensland Australia)        
How Cool is that Robert

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Robert
You are defintely a marvel with all the hard work you have put into this. Would luv to see it in action when its done
Leon


Post# 224118 , Reply# 2   7/21/2007 at 00:04 (6,095 days old) by frontaloadotmy (the cool gay realm)        
Amazing!!!!

Absolutely Amazing
Robert , did you decide that you were going to d
2.0 all in one "Big Bang" event? Do you think o
one thing to add at a time? How soon before you will nee
a "newer" computer? The water proofing with switch is m
favorite part!


Post# 224125 , Reply# 3   7/21/2007 at 01:00 (6,095 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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Great improvements - can't wait to see it at the September wash-in
Do you have any ideas for a softener dispenser yet? That could be fun...


Post# 224136 , Reply# 4   7/21/2007 at 02:16 (6,095 days old) by dj-gabriele ()        

What a genious! That sure is an interesting project! Are you going to make the unit completely self contained?

Post# 224140 , Reply# 5   7/21/2007 at 03:38 (6,095 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Awesome job Robert
Any changes in the cycle? I can't wait to see more. Actually a few days ago I watched a video of this machine again
Enjoy your weekend
Louis


Post# 224144 , Reply# 6   7/21/2007 at 04:20 (6,095 days old) by washoholic (San Antonio, TX)        

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Wow! Robert, YOU ARE SOOOO AWESOME! Thanks for posting! That washer will take the cake at the Sept. Wash-In! Keep the GREAT ideas coming
~Jeff


Post# 224149 , Reply# 7   7/21/2007 at 04:48 (6,095 days old) by goprog ()        

Red Green would be proud - except there's no duct tape.

Post# 224153 , Reply# 8   7/21/2007 at 05:15 (6,095 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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Beyond amazing, Robert! I think you should send a photo of the interface to Rubbermaid. Bet they've never seen their product used in that way, before.

Post# 224160 , Reply# 9   7/21/2007 at 06:57 (6,095 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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Drooling here
Samantha- you one talented broad. :-
So perhaps for another thread:
Since your wash cycles are custom programmable, what would your ideal whiter-than-white "WHITES" cycle be?
Can the on-board heater raise the water temp (significantly)as well as maintain it?


Post# 224162 , Reply# 10   7/21/2007 at 07:20 (6,095 days old) by tlee618 ()        

Robert, that is just fantastic!! You have really made some changes since I last saw that wonderful machine. Looking forward to seeing some pictures of it running.

Post# 224167 , Reply# 11   7/21/2007 at 07:55 (6,094 days old) by westyslantfront ()        

Hi Robert. It is an amazing machine with so many different components
Ross


Post# 224174 , Reply# 12   7/21/2007 at 08:42 (6,094 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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Thanks everyone, I'll take more pictures soon. And yes I'm going to bring this machine to the Omaha wash in

Robert , did you decide that you were going to do
2.0 all in one "Big Bang" event? Do you think of
one thing to add at a time? How soon before you will need
a "newer" computer?
Hi Darrel, no I sort of think of things I want to add slowly, like in when I'm on the Freeway or in Business Meetings (it's the Attention Deficit Disorder you know :) . Then I have to research how I'm going to do it and I collect the parts. Sometimes I find a part and think, cool I can use this in the machine. The computer I have works just fine, and I can't ever imagine it not being able to do what ever I throw at it. I do want to get a flat screen monitor for it, just to make more room
Do you have any ideas for a softener dispenser yet? I do have two possibilities Greg, the only thing I haven't decided yet is where on the outside of the machine to add it so it's least in the way
Are you going to make the unit completely self contained?Nope, I love having it attached to a PC, it's the ultimate in "Dial Pushing" or flexibility
Any changes in the cycle?Hi Louis, yes I've changed the cycles constantly, I'm always thinking of things I want to try and its real easy with the software to try anything with any length of time. The biggest change to the cycles has been using the sensors to detect when it's time to move to the next step over using a specific time period. All fills now are metered either by the recirculation pump pressure or by actual amount of water that has entered the machine
Can the on-board heater raise the water temp (significantly)as well as maintain it? Hi Toggs, since the water heater is only 120 volts it's not that powerful. It does rise the water temperature maybe 6 degrees in 20 minutes, but what it's really there for is it keep the water temperature from dropping.
Here is my Whitest-Whites Cycle for white towels or as I call it "Hot Suds Towels", it's my longest cycle, I have lotsof cycles...VARI - Means the time is variable, a sensor determines when it's time to move on
00:30 - "Hot Water Line Flush" (Runs hot water into outer tub and pumps it down the drain to clear the hot water line of cold water)
VARI - "1 Gallon Fill" Fills Outer Cabinet with exactly 1 Gallon of Hot Wate
00:04 - "Rotate" Spin Wash Tub to approximately 100 rp
00:20 - "Clothes Guard Spray" Pumps the 1 gallon of hot water up through the recirculation pump onto top of dry clothes so dry lightweight items like socks wont go over the top of the tub during the Spinning Pre-Wash
00:25 - "Gain Speed" Spin wash tub up to full speed at 1140rp
BEGIN Pre-Wash (4 Minutes of Magic
04:00 - With the tub spinning at 1140rpm the motor is turned off and the tub is allowed to simply coast down slowly downward from 1140rpm. The recirculation pump going and now the heater is turned on, hot water is filled through the detergent dispenser pushing the detergent and hot water into the outer cabinet which is pumped up into the spinning tub. When the recirculation pump comes up to full pressure (usually takes about another 1.25 gallons), the computer stops filling. Since there is only about 2.25 or so gallons of water mixed in with the full strength of detergent the concentration is very high. As the tub slows down to about 350rpm, the motor is pulsed back on for a few seconds to keep the wash tub spinning from 650rpm to 350rpm during the rest of the Pre-wash
VARI-Brake is applied and recirculation pump pushes all the water from the outer cabinet back into the wash tub, when the outer cabinet is empty the pump pressure switch opens telling the computer to move on
VARI-The washer fills through the detergent dispenser with hot and it is pumped into the wash tub. When the pump pressure comes up to full again the computer knows that the wash tub is full and overflowing and its time to move on. Usually takes about 10 gallons
20:00 "Wash, Heat and Soak" - The washer Agitates for 168 seconds, then soaks for 58 seconds and it repeats those intervals for the next 20 minutes. The recirculation is going as well as the heat during both the washing and soaking
01:00 "Drain Cabinet" the washer pumps out water and suds from the outer cabinet down the drain
02:00 "Spin-Rinse", the tub spins and throws out its water into the outer cabinet, when the tub is up to full speed there are four 7-second Jet-Circle Spray Rinses added
VARI-Rinse Fill, Exactly 10.5 gallons of cool or cold water is filled directly into the wash tub via the Jet-Circle Spray for the rinse. The computer analyzes today's date to determine if it should use cool or cold water. May-October it's cold, November thru April it's cool
02:00-"Overflow Rinse" the washer agitates and water is added to the wash tub and it is overflowed into the outer tub and down the drain
01:00="Softening Rinse" - The overflow part of the rinse is stopped but agitation continues in case I want to add softener so it will not overflow the softener away. (This is where the dispenser will come in once I've added it)
07:00-"Imperial Rapidry" - 1140rpm for 7 Minutes gets those towels really dry! At the beginning two 7-second spray rinses are added.


Post# 224180 , Reply# 13   7/21/2007 at 09:14 (6,094 days old) by cuffs054 (MONTICELLO, GA)        

This is really neat! I could never have begun to think of something like this, but now I want one!

Post# 224204 , Reply# 14   7/21/2007 at 11:14 (6,094 days old) by irishwashguy (Salem,Oregon.............A Capital City)        
WOW! This is amazing!

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I Love this thing! A water heater! That is one of my favorate parts of this. That gets clothes really clean. There is a wash-in Sept 2007?

Post# 224232 , Reply# 15   7/21/2007 at 14:51 (6,094 days old) by washertalk ()        
IMPRESSIVE !!

Incredible the amount of detail. And it looks good too
So, is the computer going to be connected to the internet with a web cam and people can pay to give it commands and watch it in action? lol, we can over fill it... and put in too much detergent... lol. No, we wouldn't do that
But online washer access, wow, that would be "the next step" to
"the digital evolution of the Unimatic".


Post# 224274 , Reply# 16   7/21/2007 at 16:16 (6,094 days old) by hooverwheelaway ()        
Oy!

All of that wiring
That's amazing that you're able to decipher all of that
I'm lost after the power cord.
~Fred


Post# 224304 , Reply# 17   7/21/2007 at 17:22 (6,094 days old) by mrcleanjeans (milwaukee wi)        

Robert,you're a genius

Post# 224344 , Reply# 18   7/21/2007 at 21:03 (6,094 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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Anyone want to see my Nozzle?

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Post# 224351 , Reply# 19   7/21/2007 at 21:08 (6,094 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
I LOVE IT!

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When did you decide the onboard relays couldn't handle the juice? I would suspect they can handle most of the 120V stuff but not about say anything over 400 Watts of power. So you would need the heavy relays for the spin up and the heater but the water valves?? They should draw no more than 1.5 amps tops!
So do you have the onboard relays trip the 16 Amp relays? That would be a relay within a relay within a relay!!
And all those hoses my my they are carrying alot of water to and fro! I need to build a Bendix SuperMatic with electronic shock dampers!!!


Post# 224352 , Reply# 20   7/21/2007 at 21:10 (6,094 days old) by pulsator (Saint Joseph, MI)        

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WOW!!! That machine is really transforming! I can't WAIT to see it in person!!!

Post# 224375 , Reply# 21   7/21/2007 at 23:00 (6,094 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
Good-bye, everyone ! Robert, you won my heart long ago; now

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After reading the transcendental "Hot Suds Towels" cycle, I died and went to heaven.

Post# 224440 , Reply# 22   7/22/2007 at 10:23 (6,093 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
When George Bush and God had their daily chat, they decided

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"Inside the interface" is so intricate it made me think of what neurosurgery must be like. All those tiny items must be exactly matched to corresponding tiny items. How many years of practice does it take
All of your metal goosenecks looks like classic GE's. Nice
Tried to find the older Super Uni photos because the new turbo doesn't look so different. Guess it so dramatic in the Whirly Combo because it's shooting upward in a narrower frame. Can you link the older photos
Reading the Hot Sudsy Towels Cycle made me realize permanently that you really have the washing sickness/giftedness--as good or bad as it gets. I have it too. You've made all the dreams come true: spray rinsing in the unimatic, NOT getting any cold water contaminating the HOT, neutral draining without agitation even if it's only in the outer tub, a long wash with periodic soaks, recirculating water, a catalyst cycle, CIRCLE fills&sprays AND an overflow--indeed, these are the things that Frigidaire boys fantasized about, and many of you know exactly what I'm talking about, and that is why this club is so IRREPLACEABLE, and why Robert is such a gift for giving us a home. WHERE ELSE COULD WE GO
WE ARE WASHING MACHINE MEN AND WOMEN AND THIS IS OUR HOME.


Post# 224457 , Reply# 23   7/22/2007 at 11:25 (6,093 days old) by mayken4now (Panama City, Florida)        

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Drink, toast, hail to the wonders of mechanics and it's founders
Steve


Post# 224483 , Reply# 24   7/22/2007 at 14:15 (6,093 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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So you would need the heavy relays for the spin up and the heater but the water valves?? They should draw no more than 1.5 amps tops!! Jon, I'm not using the extra 16AMP relays for the water valves, only the Motor, Heater, Drain Pump, Recirculation Pump and Spin Solenoid. While I really don't need the extra relays for the Pumps and Spin Solenoid, my original computer interface board had 5AMP relays so just to be sure I added the extra three Heavy Duty ones to keep them happy and cool. My new computer interface relay boards have 10Amp relays so they are even more durable
So do you have the onboard relays trip the 16 Amp relays? That would be a relay within a relay within a relay!!! Yes, you got it. I will keep the relays inside the Interface happy for years to come
Reading the Hot Sudsy Towels Cycle made me realize permanently that you really have the washing sickness/giftedness--as good or bad as it gets. I have it too.You got that right Mike. What thing fun about the Super Unimatic is I can experiment to my hearts content. Like what I tried this morning. OK here's a question for everyone, what do you think happens when YOU MOUNT TWO PULSATORS ON TOP OF EACH OTHER AS THE NEW AGITATOR?...


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Post# 224489 , Reply# 25   7/22/2007 at 14:27 (6,093 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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OK, now you've gone TOO FAR, Mister! I'm starting to fear for your emotional stability. If that monster-machine is found wandering the countryside looking for a mate, you'll have no one to blame but yourself when the torch-wielding villagers arrive at your doorstep.

Post# 224492 , Reply# 26   7/22/2007 at 14:34 (6,093 days old) by mayken4now (Panama City, Florida)        

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I know the answer to two pulsators
Eventually, when the machine has completed it's assigned cycle, you will open the lid and the towels and/or clothes selected to wash in the machine will dissappear!!!!! Gone, shredded, out, down the drain. Wash em till they breakdown to nothing
Ducks and Runs...FAS
Steve


Post# 224513 , Reply# 27   7/22/2007 at 15:16 (6,093 days old) by vintagesearch ()        

pure brilliance, amazing, inventive, and innovative the best of vintage meets modern technology go robert! we need mass distribution of such a unique solid washer! wheres the matching dryer? LOL ;P

Post# 224575 , Reply# 28   7/22/2007 at 20:21 (6,093 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
Oh My God

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Double pulsators!! Holy Suds Batman
What did it do to the laundry?
What did it do to the suds??


Post# 224579 , Reply# 29   7/22/2007 at 20:38 (6,093 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)        

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Two pulsators - that is pretty funny, I was thinking about that earlier today! Robert - I tip my at at your - the hours of soldering looks awesome. Guys I must say - this machine is a treat to see in person - absolutely the best fun you an have with a 10 y/o PC and a few afternoons with some wire and relays.
Those beefy 16A relays are some nice insurance - that'd be a good way to save a timer on a Standard Unimatic - have the timer drive a relay that controls both the motor and the spin solenoid. Save a contact - replace a relay - Good idea
Be
y - Good idea
Be


Post# 224584 , Reply# 30   7/22/2007 at 21:26 (6,093 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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Well after doing quite a few loads with the Double Pulsator, I've gone back to using just one. It seems that with a normal 10lb or 12lb load the double pulsator works great, but throw a 14lb or 16lb load to it like I usually do in the Super Unimatic and the double pulsator setup fails to turn anything over, where as a full tub of recirculating water and a single pulsator/detergent column has no problem turn that load over. Oh well, that's the fun of getting to experiment downstairs in my secret lavatory, ooops I mean laboratory LOL
By the way the reason I can wash a 16lb load in the Super Unimatic is due to the recirculation keeps the tub at its absolute fullest level of water constantly which is the key to doing super-sized loads in that machine.


Post# 224593 , Reply# 31   7/22/2007 at 21:40 (6,093 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        

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I can almost see the top fin holding down the clothes the way the first version of the jetcone did, before they adjusted the ports, but God! how I'd love to see a short flick of the waterworks in the photos. I'd rent a jet, pick up Frigi's Pesto and Sudsy's Figs and deliver, if you'd video the double pulsator. It's just too fast for the camera.

Post# 224608 , Reply# 32   7/22/2007 at 22:19 (6,093 days old) by liamwa ()        
Fantastic machine!!!

I can't believe all the work you have done on it Robert, you really are multi talented. Dumb question but, how do you get a solid tub washer to recirculate water? Or is it not a solid tub
Liam


Post# 224617 , Reply# 33   7/22/2007 at 23:12 (6,093 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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Hi Liam, not a dumb question at all, it's very simple. In order for a solid basket washer to recirculate, the water level has to be filled up to the very top to the water exit holes and overflow out into the outer cabinet or tub. Then the recirculation pump picks up the water and throws it back into the wash tub. You can see it happening in this picture here, the water coming out of the holes is making a continual round trip between the wash tub and the cabinet. The suds in the outer cabinet act as a lint filter to catch dog hair and other floating lint. The lint cannot make it through the layer of suds and down through the few gallons of water at the bottom of the cabinet to get to the pump. Once the drain pump pumps the water and suds down the drain the lint are disposed with it, like magic! No messy filters to clean here.

Post# 224633 , Reply# 34   7/23/2007 at 04:11 (6,093 days old) by mielabor ()        
Overflow...

I would love to see a video of that overflow action!

Post# 224703 , Reply# 35   7/23/2007 at 14:18 (6,092 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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I uploaded an older video to Mediafire, so everybody can download it without using bandwidth of this site. As long as it's available you can download it by clicking on the link. The file is around 30Mb. It's the Supermatic from before the improvements. Fascinating machine
Louis


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Post# 224753 , Reply# 36   7/23/2007 at 20:21 (6,092 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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Thanks Louis, that video is really old, a lot has changed so I have to do a new one sometime soon
Well I think Eugene is right, it's official, I'm ready for the men in white coats to come and take me to my padded cell...


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Post# 224771 , Reply# 37   7/23/2007 at 21:20 (6,092 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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Westy impeller: Cross-pollinating from an entirely different species. You're in unchartered waters, now, Robert
:
Unrelated: As much as I loved representin' for the gets-no-love Franklin transmission by using the Wizard background wallpaper, I just couldn't face that yellow-headed, diet pill-addicted, Town 'n' Country housewife, anymore. Time for a change.


Post# 224778 , Reply# 38   7/23/2007 at 21:40 (6,092 days old) by 70series ( Connecticut.)        

Awesome job on that washer Robert
Since it is a Unimatic, the Imperial Forum is best place to post IMHO
Good Luck
James


Post# 224804 , Reply# 39   7/23/2007 at 23:04 (6,092 days old) by hydralique (Los Angeles)        
Just Awesome . . .

all it needs now is a graceful chrome script on the backsplash proudly proclaiming "Super Unimatic 2.0" . . .

Post# 224911 , Reply# 40   7/24/2007 at 10:01 (6,091 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
OH my gawd

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You have gone crazy! A DW impeller?? A GE Dial?
Whats next a vegetable strainer?? I bet that would make lots of jetty suds.............
I love the DW impeller but I will not commit to that publicly
You can't make me


Post# 224920 , Reply# 41   7/24/2007 at 10:42 (6,091 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
Livin' the dream

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In #20, the impeller looks almost like the black Darth Pulsator in your green dialed Pulsamatic. Wonder how the Darth would perform at the slower speed
You know, Robert, in the first pic, it looks totally believable, a really cool futuristic agitator
If you have the really old Norge agitator in the house, 4 large black paddles, arrays of holes on the plate, open ring around the middle to squirt water, she'll fit, with a few washers under the screw-cap, on the Speed Queen shaft. Try that and see if you like it. The power of that agitator at that speed is dazzling
Your newest work is clearly insane and I feel right at home with you and Jetcone.


Post# 224928 , Reply# 42   7/24/2007 at 11:41 (6,091 days old) by bundtboy ()        
frigihouse agitator

Now THAT'S funny~
You are the most creative and fun loving person I have ever met
May you live to be 120 years old



Post# 224942 , Reply# 43   7/24/2007 at 13:26 (6,091 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        
It's a Norgeadaire

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Whats next a vegetable strainer??If I knew what a vegetable strainer was I would try it LOL
Oh Mikeyd, hmmmmmm, I dont think the huge base of the Norge agitator will fit into the small opening of the Speed Queen. But wait, what would happen if we did this?????????????? Anyone care to guess the results, I do wonder myself
Tonight after work we will all find out mwhahahahahaha.


Post# 224947 , Reply# 44   7/24/2007 at 13:41 (6,091 days old) by scoots (Chattanooga TN)        
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This is absolutely the most sensational piece of hardware I've seen in years. What do you say after that, besides, congratulations
Perhaps you would consider hosting a party when your creation is ready for its débutante ball Dr. Franenfur... I mean Dr. Unimatic? At least a full technical exposé
Scoots


Post# 224964 , Reply# 45   7/24/2007 at 16:40 (6,091 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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Oh, you just ain't right. Next he'll have that James dishwasher bolted to the top
All this messing around is going to snap that torque spring, break the pump seal and burn out the motor all at once
So far, the Westinghouse impeller is my fave.


Post# 224972 , Reply# 46   7/24/2007 at 17:30 (6,091 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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For God's sake, Gansky, don't give him any ideas! I've mailed Neal an economy-sized bottle of sedatives with instructions to dissolve one each night in Robert's martini.

Post# 224987 , Reply# 47   7/24/2007 at 18:34 (6,091 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
forgot to tell you my SQ is a late model wringer with a very

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The plate will surely cause some serious pulsation, and the burpolation may work, but I think it is the lateral sweep that shoots the water up; not sure what the vertical scoop will do, although it may be amazing. I can't wait. This is truly Christmas and Hanukah in July, Funny Guy! Thank You. ;- D

Post# 225001 , Reply# 48   7/24/2007 at 19:55 (6,091 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        
The Norgidaire

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The results are in with the "Norgidaire", you decdied
Link is a full-res video, it's 14.5mb, so right click and save target as to your hard drive, then watch it.


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Post# 225006 , Reply# 49   7/24/2007 at 20:31 (6,091 days old) by pdub (Portland, Oregon)        
blasphemy

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It's sacrilegious I tell ya
The Frigidairians are turning over in their graves.


Post# 225022 , Reply# 50   7/24/2007 at 21:28 (6,091 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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Well, I'll be a monkey's uncle; That Norge agitator didn't create half the havoc I thought it would. Hey, Neal! You can leave the sedative out of Robert's martini, tonight.

Post# 225029 , Reply# 51   7/24/2007 at 21:45 (6,091 days old) by brent-aucoin ()        

Robert
All that I can say is Wild!
You are a wild man
What were you washing? Did you run a full cycle? I am interested if the items got cleaned
This Agitator from the Norge would be cool because of the holes that are in it. In my brain, I would think that with this type of movement, the suction through the holes would cause the same type of "agitation", if not better
Could you hear any "strain" on the motor using this agitator
I have always been so impressed with your creation
I bet it is a super washer
Brent


Post# 225034 , Reply# 52   7/24/2007 at 21:49 (6,091 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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Hi Brent, I was washing some play clothes just to see the action. The turnover with the Norge 'tator was OK, but it's better just with the plan old Unimatic agitator. There was no unusual strain sound on the motor. I suppose it's time to go back to the normal agitator.

Post# 225043 , Reply# 53   7/24/2007 at 22:16 (6,091 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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Back to the normal agitator? Noooooooo! It's just starting to get good
Try a newer Maytag agitator - or a long-neck Hotpoint, something with a smaller base/skirt than the Norge. Maybe a Roto-Swirl or Spiralator? That could be really cool..
Pretty please with jam on top? Just one more!!!!!!


Post# 225047 , Reply# 54   7/24/2007 at 22:28 (6,091 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        
How do you like it, how do you like it? MORE MORE MORE!

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Inverted SS mixing bowl, drilled and secured, looking like a bell
What was the name-brand of those very old copper-tub (ouoter finish) wringer washers that had inverted bowls in them which moved up and down?
ah, la voila c'est une laveuse de...
EASY BRAND Corporatio
Syracuse, N


Post# 225049 , Reply# 55   7/24/2007 at 22:31 (6,091 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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Easy!
Yes, that's a good idea - a much larger bowl shape would be an interesting experiment too - I wonder if it would lift clothes up into the air and let them drop like the Easy cups did. Cooooool!


Post# 225057 , Reply# 56   7/24/2007 at 22:43 (6,091 days old) by brent-aucoin ()        

FUN!

Post# 225084 , Reply# 57   7/25/2007 at 01:53 (6,091 days old) by laundryshark (Cedar Rapids, Iowa)        
These Downloads Made My Day!

Hey Louis and Robert
Thanks for those downloads of your strange washer monster creations. Way too cool
With Best Regards
Laundry Shark


Post# 225086 , Reply# 58   7/25/2007 at 02:51 (6,091 days old) by mielabor ()        
Excitement...

Hmmm, some members of this forum are even more in need of medical attention than the webmaster himself.

Post# 225099 , Reply# 59   7/25/2007 at 06:10 (6,091 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Agitation.!!!!

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Morning Robert, Have you been sniffin to much DASH again...LOL, me thinks you should go for the finale and stick the Pigs (Wizard) Agi in, followed up by an Easy Spiralator......have fun.
AND,I hope not too many ASKO machines have been torn apart for parts,although a very good cause its just too much of a washer sin, that would get you 5 westy slantflonts and 2 rounds of the laundryroom, at the Confessional of the Washer Gods..
Cheers, Mike


Post# 225124 , Reply# 60   7/25/2007 at 09:37 (6,090 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
gregm has that Easy, Toggs, and somewhere in the Youtube wor

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Robert, your experiment reminded me of the jetcone operation where the clothes rest for a bit on top
In the Frigidorge, they rested against the fins as if they were leaning against walls, cruising
Figured the gush wouldn't work, but one can always hope
Hello Patrick: Re: "Blasphemy" laughed but then realized the true superiority of the Frigidaire. It will wash anything, and it can wash WITH anything
A fire hydrant
a garbage can to
Gladys........ Obviously kidding but couldn't resis
OH NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


Post# 225127 , Reply# 61   7/25/2007 at 09:52 (6,090 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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Inverted SS mixing bowl, drilled and secured, looking like a bell? Hey not a bad idea Toggles, but a mixing bowl might be too deep, wouldn't you think? I believe those Easy Cups were more like deep saucers?

Post# 225131 , Reply# 62   7/25/2007 at 10:07 (6,090 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
Uh-oh, I'm in big trouble now.

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I thought you would chuckle--honest! If it hurt, I am sorry--truly.

Post# 225248 , Reply# 63   7/25/2007 at 21:28 (6,090 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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Uh-oh, I'm in big trouble now. Nonsense! How could I ever be mad at you Mikeyd? :)

Post# 225256 , Reply# 64   7/25/2007 at 21:45 (6,090 days old) by westyslantfront ()        

Hi Robert. I loved the Norgeidaire video. You are a genius to be able to fit the Norge agitator to the unimatic
mechanism
Ross


Post# 225375 , Reply# 65   7/26/2007 at 09:38 (6,089 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
Hello Robert and mates

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Trying to post on "Should I reduce?" but keep getting FORBIDDEN
Glitch or practical joke?


Post# 225382 , Reply# 66   7/26/2007 at 10:10 (6,089 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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Trying to post on "Should I reduce?" but keep getting FORBIDDEN. I hope you are kidding because I do not have any time for technical issues today.

Post# 225423 , Reply# 67   7/26/2007 at 13:55 (6,089 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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I just had a look on Live Earth and I noticed I saw men in white coats carrying straight jackets in the neighbourhood of some members...
Anyway Robert, thanks for that video, interesting that the Norge agitator fits in the Super Unimatic. BTW, personally I think it's a horrible sight that the Super Unimatic has a hole in the control panel where the timer used to be. Wouldn't it be nice to have some indicator lights in there
Louis


Post# 225427 , Reply# 68   7/26/2007 at 14:26 (6,089 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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I think it's a horrible sight that the Super Unimatic has a hole in the control panel where the timer used to be. Wouldn't it be nice to have some indicator lights in there? But Louis, that's where the 3" Plasma TV is going to go so I can wash clothes and watch Bewitched at the same time.

Post# 225437 , Reply# 69   7/26/2007 at 15:16 (6,089 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        
But Samantha....

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A Plasma TV to watch Bewitched! And watching TV while washing! You're sure you're not suffering from fever? I was thinking old fashioned lights, like they had in the Thunderbirds on certain control panels, in different colors with chrome trim
Shaking head in Europe...


Post# 225443 , Reply# 70   7/26/2007 at 15:31 (6,089 days old) by volvoguy87 (Cincinnati, OH)        
Did somebody say lights?

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With a machine as super as this one, I think the control panel is in need of some lights. The panel is no WCI-58, but get creative
Age does not equate obsolescense
Dave


Post# 225444 , Reply# 71   7/26/2007 at 15:48 (6,089 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        
Many may have thought it but none have yet said it.......

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~I believe those Easy Cups were more like deep saucers
I thought you might need the width of such a bowl to get the required depth.
I get "forbidden" all the time. After two or three posts it'd come up. I'm thinkng it was a sign from the universe telling me (and me only! *WINK*) to "Stop posting, bitch."


Post# 225460 , Reply# 72   7/26/2007 at 18:13 (6,089 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
Hello, Handsome

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Not kidding--sent you an e-mail; please post; it's kinda funny. I try
Toggs, you get blocked because you're not helping Gary with his cash flow. I'm LAUGHING........... I'll try to find Gregm's Easy cup&saucer Youtube video and link it.


Post# 225466 , Reply# 73   7/26/2007 at 19:22 (6,089 days old) by selectomatic ()        
I love the custom enclosure for the interface, but

I'm going to add another vote for lights. I love lights, buttons, meters, gauges, indicators, etc.
Nixie tubes or Numitrons are very easy to drive. Green Eye tubes aren't difficult either. Neon lamps? Something
BTW, where'd you get the computer/relay interface boards? I built some devices many years back using similar boards from a company called, "Electronic Energy Controls." There's no end to the fun you can have with things like that
Keep up the good work -- it's people like you that make me feel normal
-kevin


Post# 225510 , Reply# 74   7/26/2007 at 22:24 (6,089 days old) by exploder3211 ()        

I have only seen forbidden once and i thought it was my computer acting funny

Post# 225594 , Reply# 75   7/27/2007 at 09:42 (6,088 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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BTW, where'd you get the computer/relay interface boards? I built some devices many years back using similar boards from a company called, "Electronic Energy Controls." Hi Kevin, the Parallel Port Realy Board comes as a kit that you solder to parts together from Carl's Electronics
Louis and others, as for fancy lights on the control panel, maybe some day, but for now I'm more interesting in having all the lights, dials, meters, gauges, indicators, etc. display on the computer screen. In future upgrades I want to add to the display the water temperature and rpm of the tub, and I'm sure I will think of lots of other things to add as time goes on. This washer will never be "Done" or "Completed", I hope to continue adding and upgrading new features until I'm too old to do the wash anymore LOL
As for the Software I wrote, here are some screen shots of a "Hot Suds White Towels" load, starting from when you first turn the washer on, thru the final spin. This all is about to change again as I'm going to do write software upgrade soon.


Post# 225612 , Reply# 76   7/27/2007 at 11:24 (6,088 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        
Madam has the vapours!

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OMG I died and went to heaven
Thank you for sharing.


Post# 225706 , Reply# 77   7/27/2007 at 22:20 (6,088 days old) by exploder3211 ()        

Thats too cool... Whats electric blanket on the first screen shot?

Post# 225727 , Reply# 78   7/28/2007 at 00:19 (6,088 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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Chad my "Electric Blanket" cycle is a special super delicate cycle for washing my electric blanket. At night in the winter I love having the bedroom freezing and the electric blanket on high. Years ago I could wash and wash and wash electric blankets with no problem, but the blankets manufactured over the last 15 years or so have been of such poor quality that if I don't wash it extremely gently after one or two washings it's dead. Then I hang it over stairwell railing to dry
If you want to read the program code for the Electric Blanket cycle here it is, this way you can see exactly what the washer does for this cycle
The cycle creation section of the program is pretty easy to read, in between the parenthesis are the parameters that get passed to the washer (Function Name, Operation Name, Time to run in seconds, Components Energized). The time to run are estimated for the Fills. Each line in blue is a step for the washer to perform in that order
Motor=agitation, DivJet=Jet Circle Fill, DivDet=Detergent Dispenser, Solenoid=Spin Solenoid, DPump= Drain Pump, RPump=Recirculation Pump, Hot-Warm and Cold are obvious
Public Sub ButtonElectricBlanket_Click(
SuperUnimatic.Caption = "Super Unimatic - Cycle Selected: Electric Blanket"
Call CreateCycle("Wait", "Gently Engage Spin Solenoid", 1, Solenoid
Call CreateCycle("Spin", "Rotate Wash Tub", 5, Motor + Solenoid
Call CreateCycle("Fill", "1 Gallon Fill", 60, Warm + Solenoid + DivJet
Call CreateCycle("Fill", "2 Gallon Fill", 90, Warm + Solenoid + DivDet
Call CreateCycle("Pre-Wash Gain Speed", "Gain Speed", 35, Motor + Solenoid + RPump
Call CreateCycle("Pre-Wash", "Concentrated Spray", 60, Solenoid + RPump
Call CreateCycle("Fill", "Clear Window", 5, Solenoid + Warm + DivCab
Call CreateCycle("Fill", "Charge Tub", 30, RPump
Call CreateCycle("Metered Fill", "Warm Fill", 120, RPump + Warm + DivDet
Call CreateCycle("Wash", "Wash", 30, Motor + RPump
Call CreateCycle("Wash", "Soak", 120, RPump
Call CreateCycle("Wash", "Wash", 15, Motor + RPump
Call CreateCycle("Wash", "Soak", 120, RPump
Call CreateCycle("Wash", "Wash", 15, Motor + RPump
Call CreateCycle("Wash", "Soak", 120, RPump
Call CreateCycle("Wash", "Wash", 15, Motor + RPump
Call CreateCycle("Pause", "Pause", 1, 0
Call CreateCycle("Wait", "Gently Engage Spin Solenoid", 1, Solenoid + DPump
Call CreateCycle("Spin", "Wash Water Spin Off", 42, Motor + Solenoid + DPump
Call CreateCycle("Spin", "Spray Rinse", 30, Motor + Solenoid + Cold + DPump + DivJet
Call CreateCycle("Fill", "Rinse Fill", 230, Cold + Warm + DPump + DivJet
Call CreateCycle("Rinse", "Overflow Rinse", 30, Motor + Cold + DPump + DivJet
Call CreateCycle("Pause", "Pause", 1, 0
Call CreateCycle("Wait", "Gently Engage Spin Solenoid", 1, Solenoid
Call CreateCycle("Spin", "Rinse Water Spin Off", 35, Motor + Solenoid
Call CreateCycle("Spin", "Seven Second Spray Rinse", 7, Motor + Solenoid + Cold + DPump + DivJet
Call CreateCycle("Spin", "Spin", 7, Motor + Solenoid
Call CreateCycle("Spin", "Seven Second Spray Rinse", 7, Motor + Solenoid + Cold + DPump + DivJet
Call CreateCycle("Imperial Rapidry", "Dry", 60, Motor + Solenoid
Call CreateCycle("Drain", "Remove Ballast Water", 75, DPump
End Su
Estimated Total Cycle Time: 21 minutes, 33 seconds.


Post# 225735 , Reply# 79   7/28/2007 at 03:08 (6,088 days old) by mielabor ()        
Electric blanket program...

Line 7: what is "Clear Window" and what does "DivCab" mean?

Post# 225752 , Reply# 80   7/28/2007 at 08:42 (6,087 days old) by exploder3211 ()        

Thats cool.. I washed mine 3 times and it croked... You definatly have the ultimate toy
I like how delicate that is and how quickly it goes


Post# 225754 , Reply# 81   7/28/2007 at 08:45 (6,087 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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Hi Theo, ooops I forgot DivCab. That is the third water diverter that fills water directly into the outer cabinet. The nozzle for the cabinet fill is pointed directly at the edge of the tub.
As for Clear Window segement, during the Spinning Pre-Wash the cabinet's see-thru window is completely covered in the sudsy/soapy/water mixture. So for 5 seconds right at the end of the Pre-wash before the tub brake is applied (by removing Solenoid in the next command line) I spray water onto the spinning tub which is then thrown onto window and completely clears away the suds so we have a nice clear view for the wash cycle. The five seconds of spray isn't wasted water as it is the same temperature as the wash water and it will then be used during the upcoming wash cycle
This is what the window looks like during the pre-wash and why it needs to be cleared after


Post# 225755 , Reply# 82   7/28/2007 at 09:23 (6,087 days old) by mielabor ()        
Clear window...

Oh boy, you have thought of everything!

Post# 225769 , Reply# 83   7/28/2007 at 12:05 (6,087 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
So many colors

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Why is the wash fill metered, taking only 120 secs. and the rinse fill nearly 4 min and not metered? What's going on there--what are you up to
So the blanket gets a full 30 second spray after the wash, a cooldown of sorts, but the usual 7 sec sprays in the rinse. Just the fun of variety or is there a reason
Love to know. Very interested. I love this stuff
Also the video that Louis was kind enough to post--is that an edited version and does a longer version or set of photos exis and if so would you please post
What does the pump sound like without agitation or spin--impossible in all unimatics except but Super . Be so cool and satisfying to hear it. Wondering if the '47 GE's "Empty" gave you the idea for "Remove Ballast Water" cycle!


Post# 225777 , Reply# 84   7/28/2007 at 12:33 (6,087 days old) by mielabor ()        
More questions...

Looking more closely at the status screens I see several options in the bottom right corner that are also not evident for me. What is "In Start Winding" and "Satf Pressure" and what will happen when you select "HE Detergent". Will that set off the emergency alarm?

Post# 225786 , Reply# 85   7/28/2007 at 13:48 (6,087 days old) by washoholic (San Antonio, TX)        
Shweeeeettt!!!

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Robert, you RULE
That’s amazing that the “Hot Suds White Towel” cycle only uses 32.08 gal. of water and only takes 46:06 to complete! The CR top rated agitator washer uses 58 gal. of water, takes 50 minutes, doesn’t do a pre-wash, and its wash performance was only mediocre. Other modern top loaders use 45 gal. and don’t get the clothes clean either.

Imagine if the world used Robert’s program to turn old washers into efficient cleaning machines that work better than the new ones rather than crushing them and putting them in land fills
You are soooooo SMART; what a GREAT invention and you created it without waving a wand! It’s no wonder that everyone LOVES YOU, Robert
Will you please post the “HUGE load of Colors” cycle? What happens if you click “Manual Control?”


Post# 225808 , Reply# 86   7/28/2007 at 16:29 (6,087 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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I'm glad you guys find this interesting..
Oh boy, you have thought of everything!Well once I started writing cycles, I constantly see room for improvement, so it’s easy for me to modify the program and try different things. The “Hot Suds White Towels” Program has already changed a bit since I posted the steps (above in post #224174). I'm constantly playing around with the cycles and trying different things
Why is the wash fill metered, taking only 120 secs. and the rinse fill nearly 4 min and not metered? What's going on there--what are you up to? Mike, all Fills are now metered, the “Metered Fill” is just left over wording from back before I installed Water Flow-Meter, my Rinse fills used to be timed but no more, YAY. The times for the fills are all estimated and can probably use some adjustment now. The reason for the shorter wash fill is that all of the water from the pre-wash is used in the wash cycle, and since 2.5 to 3.5 gallons are already in the system when the Wash Fill begins the wash fill is going to be shorter
So the blanket gets a full 30 second spray after the wash, a cooldown of sorts, but the usual 7 sec sprays in the rinse. Just the fun of variety or is there a reason? Since I need to be really gentle in the Electric Blanket cycle, I combine the usual four 7 second spray rinses into one 30 second spray rinse and then immediately stop the spinning. As for the spray in the final spin, I only add two of those in every cycle just to be sure any fabric softener scum is washed away
Also the video that Louis was kind enough to post--is that an edited version and does a longer version or set of photos exis and if so would you please post? That is the only video so far
What does the pump sound like without agitation or spin--impossible in all unimatics except but Super . The Unimatic is by far Frigidaire’s quietest washer, but without the pump running (I removed the impeller and replaced it with a tiny shaft) the washer is almost completely silent when the recirculation pump isn’t running. The pump was the loudest part of the mechanism
What is "In Start Winding" and "Satf Pressure" Theo those are check boxes I used for testing. Clicking start winding makes the computer think that the washer motor is not running at full speed yet. Clicking SatfPressure makes the computer think that the recirculation pump pressure switch has been satisfied
what will happen when you select "HE Detergent". Will that set off the emergency alarm?The detergent police come and add a cup of vintage Tide LOL. No Unimatics generally make a lot of suds to begin with and unlike many other washer they rarely if ever have any issues with getting rid of the suds. But when you add high-volume recirculation to the system and because the outer cabinet is so big, there is now a lot more room to grow the suds cake and it creates triple the amount of suds than a standard Unimatic washer would. So if HE is unchecked, before the first spin I have the washer drain the cabinet for 10 seconds, spin out 2/3 of the water from the tub which mixes wash water with the mountains of suds in the outer cabinet and helps knock them down, stop the tub, pump out the water suds mixture and then continue and rev the wash tub up to 1140rpm. If HE is checked it just goes right into spin like a regular Unimatic (without recirculation) would. You can’t see these steps in the Blanket cycle because it never needed in this quick, gentle cycle
Will you please post the “HUGE load of Colors” cycle? What happens if you click “Manual Control?” Hi Jeff, sure this post is getting so long I will post “Huge load of Colors” in a separate post in a little bit. Manual Control simply allows me to operate all the components of the washer manually. This is what the screen looks like, when you click on a component’s button, it energizes that item, when you click it again it stops it. Sometimes I used it when I take a wash load out of a slower spinning washer and want to spin it out. I throw the load into the Super Unimatic, I press Motor and Solenoid. I go away for 10 minutes and come back and the clothes are ready for their insta-dry LOL.


Post# 225821 , Reply# 87   7/28/2007 at 18:31 (6,087 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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As Jeff asked for here is the "HUGE Load of Colors" Cycle. This cycle is meant for washing about 125-150% of the capacity of the tub, because of the recirculation keeping the water level at it's highest it works extremely well and raises the usable capacity of this washer greatly. Again in the paraens are the following parameters that are passed to the washer
Motor = Agitatio
Solenoid = Tub Brake Released/Tub Coas
Motor + Solenoid = Spi
DivCab = Cabinet Water Diverte
DivJet = Jet Circle Spray Water Diverte
DevDet = Detergent Dispenser Water Diverte
Heat = Water Heate
RPump = Recirculation Pum
DPump = Drain Pum
Hot = Hot Fil
Warm = Warm Fil
Cold = Cold Fil
When you are reading the "Four Minutes of Magic" my pre-wash, see the footnote at the bottom for one important explanation
Call CreateCycle("Function Name", "Operation Name", Time to run in seconds, Components Energized)Public Sub ButtonHUGE_Load_of_Colors_Click(
SuperUnimatic.Caption = "Super Unimatic - Cycle Selected: HUGE Load of Colors"
Call CreateCycle("Hot Water Line Flush", "Line Flush", 30, Hot + DPump + DivCab
Call CreateCycle("Wait", "Gently Engage Spin Solenoid", 1, Solenoid
Call CreateCycle("Spin", "Rotate Wash Tub", 5, Motor + Solenoid
Call CreateCycle("Fill", "1 Gallon Fill", 60, Warm + Solenoid + DivJet
Call CreateCycle("Pre-Wash Gain Speed", "Gain Speed", 25, Motor + Solenoid + RPump
Call CreateCycle("Four Minutes of Magic", "Concentrated Spray", 24, Solenoid + RPump)
Call CreateCycle("Four Minutes of Magic", "Pulse Motor", 8, Solenoid + Motor + RPump)
Call CreateCycle("Four Minutes of Magic", "Concentrated Spray", 22, Solenoid + RPump)
Call CreateCycle("Four Minutes of Magic", "Pulse Motor", 7, Solenoid + Motor + RPump)
Call CreateCycle("Four Minutes of Magic", "Concentrated Spray", 23, Solenoid + RPump)
Call CreateCycle("Four Minutes of Magic", "Pulse Motor", 8, Solenoid + Motor + RPump)
Call CreateCycle("Four Minutes of Magic", "Concentrated Spray", 22, Solenoid + RPump)
Call CreateCycle("Four Minutes of Magic", "Pulse Motor", 7, Solenoid + Motor + RPump)
Call CreateCycle("Four Minutes of Magic", "Concentrated Spray", 24, Solenoid + RPump)
Call CreateCycle("Four Minutes of Magic", "Pulse Motor", 8, Solenoid + Motor + RPump)
Call CreateCycle("Four Minutes of Magic", "Concentrated Spray", 23, Solenoid + RPump)
Call CreateCycle("Four Minutes of Magic", "Pulse Motor", 8, Solenoid + Motor + RPump)
Call CreateCycle("Four Minutes of Magic", "Concentrated Spray", 24, Solenoid + RPump)
Call CreateCycle("Four Minutes of Magic", "Pulse Motor", 8, Solenoid + Motor + RPump)
Call CreateCycle("Four Minutes of Magic", "Concentrated Spray", 24, Solenoid + RPump)
Call CreateCycle("Fill", "Clear Window", 5, Hot + Solenoid + DivCab
Call CreateCycle("Fill", "Charge Tub", 30, RPump
Call CreateCycle("Fill", "Cool Fill", 120, RPump + Warm + Cold + DivDet
Call CreateCycle("Wash", "Start", 3, Motor
Call CreateCycle("Wash", "Wash", 168, Motor + RPump
Call CreateCycle("Wash", "Soak", 58, RPump
Call CreateCycle("Wash", "Wash", 168, Motor + RPump
Call CreateCycle("Wash", "Soak", 58, RPump
Call CreateCycle("Wash", "Wash", 168, Motor + RPump
Call CreateCycle("Wash", "Soak", 58, RPump
Call CreateCycle("Wash", "Wash", 168, Motor + RPump
Call CreateCycle("Wash", "Soak", 58, RPump
Call CreateCycle("Wash", "Wash", 168, Motor + RPump
Call CreateCycle("Water Drain", "Drain Cabinet", 10, DPump + Solenoid
Call CreateCycle("Suds Kill Expel Wash Water", "Expel Wash Water from Tub", 10, DPump + Solenoid + Motor
Call CreateCycle("Suds Kill", "Suds Kill Drain", 89, DPump
Call CreateCycle("Wait", "Gently Engage Spin Solenoid", 1, Solenoid + DPump
Call CreateCycle("Spin", "Wash Water Spin Off", 42, Motor + Solenoid + DPump
Call CreateCycle("Spin", "Seven Second Spray Rinse", 7, Motor + Solenoid + Cold + DPump + DivJet
Call CreateCycle("Spin", "Spin", 7, Motor + Solenoid + DPump
Call CreateCycle("Spin", "Seven Second Spray Rinse", 7, Motor + Solenoid + Cold + DPump + DivJet
Call CreateCycle("Spin", "Spin", 7, Motor + Solenoid + DPump
Call CreateCycle("Spin", "Seven Second Spray Rinse", 7, Motor + Solenoid + Cold + DPump + DivJet
Call CreateCycle("Spin", "Spin", 7, Motor + Solenoid + DPump
Call CreateCycle("Spin", "Seven Second Spray Rinse", 7, Motor + Solenoid + Cold + DPump + DivJet
Call CreateCycle("Spin", "Spin", 100, Motor + Solenoid + DPump
Call CreateCycle("Fill", "Rinse Fill", 215, Cold + Warm + DPump + DivJet
Call CreateCycle("Rinse", "Overflow Rinse", 60, Motor + Cold + DPump + DivJet
Call CreateCycle("Rinse", "Softening Rinse", 70, Motor + DPump
Call CreateCycle("Pause", "Pause", 1, 0
Call CreateCycle("Wait", "Gently Engage Spin Solenoid", 1, Solenoid
Call CreateCycle("Spin", "Rinse Water Spin Off", 35, Motor + Solenoid
Call CreateCycle("Spin", "Seven Second Spray Rinse", 7, Motor + Solenoid + Cold + DPump + DivJet
Call CreateCycle("Spin", "Spin", 7, Motor + Solenoid
Call CreateCycle("Spin", "Seven Second Spray Rinse", 7, Motor + Solenoid + Cold + DPump + DivJet
Call CreateCycle("Imperial Rapidry", "Spin", 375, Motor + Solenoid
Call CreateCycle("Drain", "Remove Ballast Water", 75, DPump
End Su
Estimated Cycle Time: 44:3
*What is not obvious in the cycle list is that in the program code there is a special sub routine that watches out for the following condition
If Function Name = "Four Minutes of Magic" and PressureSwitch = Not Satisfied then continute to fill through the detegent dispenser until the pressure switch is satisified
and for the Suds Kill
If the first 9 characters of the Function Name = "Suds Kill" and HE Detgergent Box = Checked then skip this line and goto the next line. (This will Skip the two Suds Kill lines)
Clear as Mud LOL?


Post# 225834 , Reply# 88   7/28/2007 at 20:36 (6,087 days old) by exploder3211 ()        

Too Coool! I wanna bring my laundry and pla
And trust me i can find pleanty of nasty greasy laundry, my husband runs a Moes Southwest Girlle


Post# 225865 , Reply# 89   7/29/2007 at 00:07 (6,087 days old) by washoholic (San Antonio, TX)        
HUGE Load of Colors

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Thanks Robert, you're AWESOME!

Post# 225875 , Reply# 90   7/29/2007 at 03:28 (6,087 days old) by bpetersxx (laf in on the banks of the Wabash River)        

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I would like one too please

You can slide it down the Dan Ryan expressway and it will get to Lafayette just fine

I dont`t think it will go from yje Mississippi river to the wabash river too well


Post# 225880 , Reply# 91   7/29/2007 at 04:22 (6,087 days old) by buffster ()        
In the famous words of Gansky1...

...you just ain't right. LOL...

I think it's all been said. I'm speechless. You are the automatic washer guru. Bravo! Bravo! I can't wait to see this in action.

And, I'm so excited to find a fellow "Bewitched" fan-atic. Hmmmm.... the Super Unimatic 2.0 and Bewitched... is there a connection? Because, it appears that you are a wizard.... I used to feel the strongest bond with Samantha. But, the older I get, the more I can relate to Endora... lol...


Post# 226061 , Reply# 92   7/29/2007 at 22:19 (6,086 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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Samantha:

Y R U not *writing* cycles/programs for today's modern(Sh**ty) computerized washer?

Lawd knows some of the cycle sequences given are bizarre,and written by those that have NO insight/clue as to how to do laundry.



Post# 226062 , Reply# 93   7/29/2007 at 22:20 (6,086 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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...as a paid staffer/engineer.

Post# 226100 , Reply# 94   7/30/2007 at 01:10 (6,086 days old) by spankomatic (Ukiah,CA)        

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Cool washer Robert! Will the Super Unimatic 2.0 have sound effects and ring tones?

Unbalanced load = Whoooop Whoooop "RED ALERT" "RED ALERT"

Jim


Post# 226147 , Reply# 95   7/30/2007 at 08:31 (6,085 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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Y R U not *writing* cycles/programs for today's modern(Sh**ty) computerized washer?
Now that would be a fun job! Although I would only do it if I didn't have to leave Minnie. Who am I kidding, not only would I have to leave Minneapolis, I would have to leave the US to do it LOL.

Cool washer Robert! Will the Super Unimatic 2.0 have sound effects and ring tones? Unbalanced load = Whoooop Whoooop "RED ALERT" "RED ALERT"
It already does :)

The next step in the ever changing SU 2.0 is installing a Fabric Softener Dispenser. I've made the decision to use the Asko Softener Dispenser over the Kelvinator version. I'm going to mount the Asko Dispenser under the top and drill a 1.75 inch hole to pour in the liquid. I'm going to insert a small fill tube through the sides of the dispener that will overflow the softener onto a rubber slide that will dump the liquid into the pulsating wash tub from the 4:00 position. Next stop my Ace Hardware Store to pick up the necessary hoses and stainless steel hardware.


Post# 226165 , Reply# 96   7/30/2007 at 09:59 (6,085 days old) by lesto (Atlanta)        

Will Big red from the Coronado fit in the super unimatic? That should make for a spalshy wash. If you ever do a video of the 57 Speed Queen I hope you use Big Red for that!

Post# 226740 , Reply# 97   8/1/2007 at 10:46 (6,083 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
a gift for Roberto Clemente

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You want the incoming hot water , reallyhot . How about getting the wash tub and the agitator hot, too, for your Hot Sudsy Towels?
So, instead of just flushing the water line, use the DivJet with the pulsator on for 30, to heat and wet the tub, then spin for 30 . Yes? simultaneously with your outer tub maneuver.

About 'CLEAR AS MUD' : I got it and I'm a bit of a technotard. It's just this short sequence that i don't fully "get" :

"Water Drain", "Drain Cabinet", 10, DPump + Solenoid)
Call CreateCycle("Suds Kill Expel Wash Water", "Expel Wash Water from Tub", 10, DPump + Solenoid + Motor)
Call CreateCycle("Suds Kill", "Suds Kill Drain", 89, DPump)
Call CreateCycle("Wait", "Gently Engage Spin Solenoid", 1, Solenoid + DPump)
Call CreateCycle("Spin", "Wash Water Spin Off", 42, Motor + Solenoid + DPump

Looks like you're throwing the water twice: Expel,10....Spin off 42, WHY, Buddy?


Post# 226749 , Reply# 98   8/1/2007 at 12:09 (6,083 days old) by mrcleanjeans (milwaukee wi)        
washed in space

Totally groovy washer Robert,you're brilliant! BTW,having the robot's voice from Lost in Space "Danger!Warning,Danger" as an unbalanced load alert,would that not be fab-u-lous?

Post# 226754 , Reply# 99   8/1/2007 at 12:21 (6,083 days old) by mielabor ()        
Suds Kill sequence...

Mickeyd, Robert has explained the purpose of these program lines in post no. 225808 of this thread. They are necessary to cope with the large amounts of suds that are produced when using non HE detergents in his Super Unimatic. (Robert, please correct me when I'm wrong.)

Post# 226786 , Reply# 100   8/1/2007 at 15:57 (6,083 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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So, instead of just flushing the water line, use the DivJet with the pulsator on for 30, to heat and wet the tub, then spin for 30 . Yes?

I was thinking of spraying the clothes with the hot water line flush water, but I don't know about pulsating them without any water in the tub Mike, it might cause problems.


Suds Kill Segment:
I have found that if I have filled at least 1/2 of the outer washer cabinet with suds (from the recirculation) when the machine goes into spin, in will whip those suds around and create even more in the outer cabinet. What happens is then once the tub gets up to full speed the suds start pouring from the outer tub back into the spinning wash tub. So a draining the wash tub in two short bursts seems to stop this from happening completely.


Post# 226801 , Reply# 101   8/1/2007 at 16:40 (6,083 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
"pulsating them without any water in the tub."

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I do the tub heat-up/ line flush BEFORE adding the clothes, Robert, an old habit I picked up using the the Easy, the Hoover and the Wringers.

Been keeping a secret: two weeks ago today, I flew to Boston, rented a truck, drove to Worcester, where the wonderful and generous Greg gave me a '62 Frigidiare which I had working by 5 o'clock that afternoon, and have been playing with exclusively ever since, learning of its wonders one by one. I have not used any of my other machines since, and am too gaga to talk about how much I love this Frigidaire.

For the flush/heat protocol, I turn the dial to the overflow wash, with the rinse selector on warm but I switch off the cold on the Multi-tap valve. Thus the hot water enters as the pulsator splashes, and as soon as the water is hot and steamy and everything is wet, including my mug, I click to spin, then proceed to our regularly scheduled program. Pure Bliss!

One month ago today, you gave birth to your living photo series. Happy Anniversary, Robert ! ; D

I wonder what is next! I'm sure the club can hardly wait.


Post# 226868 , Reply# 102   8/1/2007 at 21:28 (6,083 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
Now I've seen EVERYTHING!

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A norgediare??? Okay I'm done with washers. Thats it. I've seen it ALL!

signing off

jetcone dazed in boston...........


Post# 226918 , Reply# 103   8/2/2007 at 00:43 (6,083 days old) by irishwashguy (Salem,Oregon.............A Capital City)        
OMG

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Now I have seen everything, except a maytag agitator in the Unimatic. I do not know if that would work really, maybe a wringer agitator?

Post# 227065 , Reply# 104   8/2/2007 at 15:16 (6,082 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        
Hey Congratulations Mike!!!!!

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Been keeping a secret: two weeks ago today, I flew to Boston, rented a truck, drove to Worcester, where the wonderful and generous Greg gave me a '62 Frigidiare which I had working by 5 o'clock that afternoon, and have been playing with exclusively ever since, learning of its wonders one by one. I have not used any of my other machines since, and am too gaga to talk about how much I love this Frigidaire.
UMMM, what's up with the secret! Well where are some pictures Mister!


For the flush/heat protocol, I turn the dial to the overflow wash, with the rinse selector on warm but I switch off the cold on the Multi-tap valve. Thus the hot water enters as the pulsator splashes, and as soon as the water is hot and steamy and everything is wet, including my mug, I click to spin, then proceed to our regularly scheduled program. Pure Bliss!
Ah I see what you mean Mike a "clothes-free" (dare I say naked) pre-heat. Oh now that sounds fun!

I've installed a new part in the Super Unimatic, I was going to give it a test run last night but I was too traumatized. But I'll be ready tonight, pictures to come later.


Post# 227082 , Reply# 105   8/2/2007 at 15:42 (6,082 days old) by laundryshark (Cedar Rapids, Iowa)        
Still Enjoy those Demos!

And I still like to kill bordom with those super washer demos. Many thanks again.--Laundry Shark

Post# 227132 , Reply# 106   8/2/2007 at 19:06 (6,082 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
Well, where are some pictures, Mister?

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They're coming, Sister Mary Robert. Keep your shirt on. Well-llllllllllll, on second thought, maybe not, speaking of naked washer tricks.

I'm so glad you're alive, Robert!!!!! HONEST.


Post# 717652 , Reply# 107   11/25/2013 at 13:53 (3,775 days old) by kitty ()        
THAT IS COOL !!!!!

I MUST see that !!!!!!

Post# 717880 , Reply# 108   11/26/2013 at 15:57 (3,774 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)        
Where is ...

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The Super Unimatic ?

Haven't seen that baby for awhile. Is it still around ?


Post# 717881 , Reply# 109   11/26/2013 at 16:01 (3,774 days old) by akronman (Akron/Cleveland Ohio)        
I WANT......I WANT......

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VIDEOS!!!!

 

Very cool work, Robert!


Post# 717908 , Reply# 110   11/26/2013 at 18:58 (3,774 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)        
They are on...

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YouTube.

But I don't know if any updates are available...


Post# 717909 , Reply# 111   11/26/2013 at 19:15 (3,774 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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The old computer that ran the Super Unimatic was taken out by an unusual power surge last year, I haven't replaced the computer yet, but will at some point. So many things to do, so little time lol!

Here is another thread I posted on the Super Unimatic a few years ago...


CLICK HERE TO GO TO Unimatic1140's LINK


Post# 717911 , Reply# 112   11/26/2013 at 19:22 (3,774 days old) by kb0nes (Burnsville, MN)        

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Robert,

What do you need for a PC, I have a number of great condition Pentium 4 XP boxes that are on the pile to go to recycle. I'd gladly clean one up to donate to the project if it helps. It was so cool to see it running!

Of course it would be cool with a new Arduino or Raspberry Pi controller too ;)

Phil


Post# 717914 , Reply# 113   11/26/2013 at 19:45 (3,774 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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Thanks Phil, actually I want to convert it from a parrallel port communication system to a USB system, so I'm planning on running it on a small but new notebook. I don't have the time now to work on it, probably in a year or two, so I'm going to hold off on deciding on what exactly I'm going to use.

Post# 717934 , Reply# 114   11/26/2013 at 21:12 (3,774 days old) by kitty ()        
why don't you make a simple control box for it ?

If you don't want to wait for the computer to start up, why don't you make a a simple control box where you have all the control switches like motor, heater, drain pump,etc? that way it will be easier to operate [to me].
Cheers!


Post# 724300 , Reply# 115   1/1/2014 at 12:20 (3,738 days old) by kitty ()        
Video???

Why don't you make an unedited video of each of the cycles so the people that can't see it can at least see a video of it! You can post it on YouTube or something.


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