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Thread Number: 12894
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Post# 224142 7/21/2007 at 04:06 (6,117 days old) by jakeseacrest  (Massachusetts) |
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| Post# 224209 , Reply# 1 7/21/2007 at 11:36 (6,116 days old) by marukap (St. Louis) | ||
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Look What I Found! This was in a kitchen drawer from when my folks bought a Superba in 1977. I snatched it up on a recent trip home. It replaced a 1968 Waste King Universal and it lasted about 20 years. Now they have an Asko. The Kitchenaid was, without question, the best of the three. 
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| Post# 224210 , Reply# 2 7/21/2007 at 11:37 (6,116 days old) by marukap (St. Louis) | ||
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KD 18 Brochure 2 of 6 
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| Post# 224211 , Reply# 3 7/21/2007 at 11:39 (6,116 days old) by marukap (St. Louis) | ||
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KD 18 Brochure 3 of 6 
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| Post# 224213 , Reply# 4 7/21/2007 at 11:46 (6,116 days old) by marukap (St. Louis) | ||
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KD 18 Brochure 4 of 6 
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| Post# 224214 , Reply# 5 7/21/2007 at 11:47 (6,116 days old) by marukap (St. Louis) | ||
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KD 18 Brochure 5 of 6 
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| Post# 224215 , Reply# 6 7/21/2007 at 11:47 (6,116 days old) by marukap (St. Louis) | ||
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KD 18 Brochure 6 of 6 
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| Post# 224245 , Reply# 8 7/21/2007 at 15:23 (6,116 days old) by washinsheen () | ||
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I'm loving the '70s kitchen decor in these ads!! How funny! Especially the yellow cabinets with the floral doors!! | ||
| Post# 224303 , Reply# 10 7/21/2007 at 17:21 (6,116 days old) by mrcleanjeans (milwaukee wi) | ||
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I've always been puzzled at the KD18's short upper level power wash arm that didn't extend to the corners of the upper rack.Great machines though and wonderful brochures. | ||
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Post# 224331 , Reply# 11 7/21/2007 at 20:04 (6,116 days old) by jakeseacrest (Massachusetts) |
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Post# 224334 , Reply# 12 7/21/2007 at 20:24 (6,116 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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2-3 post wash rinses then later switched to 1 (plus a purge)
Michael, it's called water efficiency goal standards. 13.5 & 15 gallons was incredible usage even back then. It always bugged me on the KDS16, and 17 and 18, the pre-wash with detergent was so short and the subsequent rinses before main washer were so short, barely filled up and started draining again. Drove me nuts. I went home and hugged my RotoRack with the 5 minute detergent prewash.
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Post# 224366 , Reply# 13 7/21/2007 at 22:06 (6,116 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY) |
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You can take this water efficiency BS and shove is so far up | ||
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Post# 224369 , Reply# 14 7/21/2007 at 22:15 (6,116 days old) by re563 (Fort Worth, Texas) |
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I did have the imperial of this line in a house that I had rented and my sister bought a house at the same time with the Superba. What they list as 3 prerinses was actually 2 soil purges and a full rinse. On the Superba for 3 after rinses was actually 2 full rinses and a purge. So, given that information it was a big water hog. Non the less everything always came out sparkling clean. GOD--what happend to quality like that!!!!
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Post# 224370 , Reply# 15 7/21/2007 at 22:17 (6,116 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY) |
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The logic behind quick prewashes: Get the loose grease and muck off and out fast before the detergent's ability to hold it in suspension is challenged. Get rid of protein stains and soils (egg, mayo etc,) before the water gets too hot (from the lines). IMHO: Ideally W-R-W-R-R for real dirty stuff. Quick pre-wash with "cold" from line Quick intermediary rinse with warmern water. LONG HOT MAIN WASH Two more rinses. I don't like the really long heated first wash of a Pots and Pans cycle. (if there is red tomato sauce in there, for example, it's all over the plastic cutting boards and gets recirculated for a long time till the water heats. I much prefer a "rinse only" with detergent, followed by a "normal" wash for really heavily soiled loads. And in my NEWER tall-tub Kitchen-Aid I will have to run it twice pretty much guaranteed due to grit in glasses. Now just LOOK how much water it saves, huh? *LOL* | ||
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Post# 224371 , Reply# 16 7/21/2007 at 22:21 (6,116 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY) |
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Post# 224461 , Reply# 18 7/22/2007 at 11:36 (6,115 days old) by bajaespuma (Connecticut) |
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Interesting, I have the brochure from the exact same year, same series (KDS,P,I,C-18) only it's for my parents' "Patrician" model that fit between the Superba and the Imperial. It was a new model that fit our needs perfectly (although, in retrospect, the water heater is always desirable). IMHO KitchenAid's apex was the 17 series as the racking was perfect, even though it didn't have the center spray arm, the proportions and design couldn't be beat. If anyone's interested I'll scan and post it.
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Post# 224498 , Reply# 19 7/22/2007 at 14:54 (6,115 days old) by fnelson487 (Palm Springs, CA) |
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OK - Here is the brochure of my all-time favorite - the Kitc | ||
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Post# 224500 , Reply# 20 7/22/2007 at 14:56 (6,115 days old) by fnelson487 (Palm Springs, CA) |
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Post# 224502 , Reply# 21 7/22/2007 at 14:57 (6,115 days old) by fnelson487 (Palm Springs, CA) |
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Imperial | ||
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Post# 224503 , Reply# 22 7/22/2007 at 14:58 (6,115 days old) by fnelson487 (Palm Springs, CA) |
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Custom | ||
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Post# 224504 , Reply# 23 7/22/2007 at 15:02 (6,115 days old) by fnelson487 (Palm Springs, CA) |
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Post# 224505 , Reply# 24 7/22/2007 at 15:04 (6,115 days old) by fnelson487 (Palm Springs, CA) |
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Last Page | ||
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Post# 224506 , Reply# 25 7/22/2007 at 15:05 (6,115 days old) by fnelson487 (Palm Springs, CA) |
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Actual Picture of Mine | ||
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Post# 224507 , Reply# 26 7/22/2007 at 15:06 (6,115 days old) by fnelson487 (Palm Springs, CA) |
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Inside | ||
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Post# 224508 , Reply# 27 7/22/2007 at 15:06 (6,115 days old) by fnelson487 (Palm Springs, CA) |
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| Post# 224518 , Reply# 28 7/22/2007 at 15:33 (6,115 days old) by mrcleanjeans (milwaukee wi) | ||
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the corner market No wasted corners as in round racks? I didn't know that round racks had corners,lol.Was the 17 series considered better to ya all than the 18 series,and why or why not? | ||
| Post# 224537 , Reply# 29 7/22/2007 at 16:10 (6,115 days old) by varicyclevoice (Davenport, Iowa) | ||
Question for FNelson
Hi. Love your pics. The Superba 17 model was one of my all-time favorites too. It was packed with features. I love how when you open the door during a cycle, the action indicator light will remain "on" to remind you that it has been interrupted. Why do you use a Jet Dry solid when your Superba model has an automatic rinse-agent dispenser? | ||
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Post# 224555 , Reply# 30 7/22/2007 at 17:54 (6,115 days old) by fnelson487 (Palm Springs, CA) |
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Jet Dry Solid | ||
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Post# 224615 , Reply# 32 7/22/2007 at 22:55 (6,115 days old) by peteski50 (New York) |
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KitchenAid! | ||
| Post# 224642 , Reply# 34 7/23/2007 at 08:28 (6,114 days old) by tlee618 () | ||
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Fred, is your 17 brushed chrome or stainless? Such wonderful machines. If we could just get someone to build these same machines today they would be an instant success. | ||
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Post# 224647 , Reply# 35 7/23/2007 at 09:10 (6,114 days old) by bajaespuma (Connecticut) |
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That Custom model KDC-17 was our first KitchenAid dishwasher. That machine was so simple, but so great. It was quiet, fast and a good looking machine, inside and out. I loved the way the cycles actuated by pushing the cycle button instead of turning the dial. I actually preferred the style of that upper rack over the style of the Imperial and Superba upper rack.
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Post# 224732 , Reply# 36 7/23/2007 at 18:32 (6,114 days old) by re563 (Fort Worth, Texas) |
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Post# 227772 , Reply# 38 8/4/2007 at 23:46 (6,102 days old) by peteski50 (New York) |
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KitchenAid | ||
| Post# 227790 , Reply# 39 8/5/2007 at 06:59 (6,102 days old) by washerfanatic () | ||
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Ah, yes. Gotta LOVE the detailed brochures. Too bad everything has gone into the toilet. | ||
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Post# 227921 , Reply# 42 8/5/2007 at 21:27 (6,101 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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Post# 227922 , Reply# 43 8/5/2007 at 21:28 (6,101 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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