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Post# 225280   7/25/2007 at 23:04 (6,117 days old) by washertalk ()        

I think my AW.org membership is in jeopardy. This arrived recently and I was so busy I didn't have the... whatever it takes to drop everything, and play. Shame, shame on me.

Anyway, here are picks of the new WFW9200 Duet. This is the second one that was delivered. The first was damaged and Lowes had to take it back. They delivered within a couple of days there after.






Post# 225281 , Reply# 1   7/25/2007 at 23:06 (6,117 days old) by washertalk ()        

So these days apparently they have cancelled the idea of a cardboard box. this is basically how it came only add a thick clear seran wrap on the whole thing.

Post# 225282 , Reply# 2   7/25/2007 at 23:07 (6,117 days old) by washertalk ()        

It actually is made in Germany. At least the piece of cardboard is.

Post# 225283 , Reply# 3   7/25/2007 at 23:09 (6,117 days old) by washertalk ()        

So this is all the packing that protects it. Add the 2 pieces of cardboard on the top and bottom and saran wrap that whole thing together.
There is more cardboard in a pizza box.


Post# 225284 , Reply# 4   7/25/2007 at 23:11 (6,117 days old) by washertalk ()        

tape on the door and green square of plastic stuck to the window.


Post# 225285 , Reply# 5   7/25/2007 at 23:13 (6,117 days old) by washertalk ()        

Darn the first thing I wanted to do was reverse the door.
Ubb, pack it up! It's going back.


Post# 225286 , Reply# 6   7/25/2007 at 23:15 (6,117 days old) by washertalk ()        

OK, I wasn't a fan of stainless but this is sleek. I do like this. It is probably a lot lighter than porcelin on steel and more reliable than plastic. Look at that shine. It needs a light in here though.

Post# 225288 , Reply# 7   7/25/2007 at 23:17 (6,117 days old) by washertalk ()        

the control panel. I wonder if any of these will light up. We shall soon find out.

Post# 225289 , Reply# 8   7/25/2007 at 23:18 (6,117 days old) by washertalk ()        

the detergent drawer. self cleaning.

Post# 225291 , Reply# 9   7/25/2007 at 23:20 (6,117 days old) by washertalk ()        

Energy guide

Post# 225297 , Reply# 10   7/26/2007 at 00:08 (6,117 days old) by pulsator (Saint Joseph, MI)        

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Congrats on the new washer! I love the new look of the Duet machines. We bought ours on January 1, 2003 and it has been going strong! The only breakdown it had was a failed pumped, the pump was defective upon arrival however and failed after about a year. With it's new pump, the machine seems to chug along very nicely! Naturally, I'm not a huge fan of it as it does not use nearly enough water in my opinion, but I can get around that pretty easily! :)

Post# 225321 , Reply# 11   7/26/2007 at 04:05 (6,117 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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It's a beauty! Congratulations.

Post# 225442 , Reply# 12   7/26/2007 at 15:29 (6,117 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Congratulations! I noticed they changed the design of the control panel. Great looking machine, I hope you will share some more pictures with us, especially of the machine in action.

Happy washing!

Louis


Post# 225457 , Reply# 13   7/26/2007 at 17:21 (6,116 days old) by washerfanatic ()        

Congrats on your new washer! I notice the dreaded Energy Star Label. I suspect the Water level is very low, but I'm more afraid to think that Hot is warm and Super Hot is only 120 degrees.

Good luck washing!


Post# 225516 , Reply# 14   7/26/2007 at 23:21 (6,116 days old) by alr2903 (TN)        

Question Please, after cycle starts, is the door locked? is it possible to throw in a forgotten item, or add something toward the end of the wash cycle? thanks arthur.

Post# 225522 , Reply# 15   7/27/2007 at 00:58 (6,116 days old) by spankomatic (Ukiah,CA)        

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It LOOKS neat. Do you have a cement floor? It can shake the whole house on high speed spin if you do not. I took mine back and got Maytag Neptune that spins smooooth on high speed. A lot easier to add soap and bleach too (no drawer). It LOOKS neat though....

Jim


Post# 225526 , Reply# 16   7/27/2007 at 01:45 (6,116 days old) by washertalk ()        

Thanks for the feedback.

I know that dreaded energy label telling how much energy it doesn't use. who needs that, it wrecks all the fun. I don't know what the temperatures are for stated buttons. Actually though. I don't typically wash anything in Hot anymore as it causes extra wear and tear on clothes. But this unit has a built in heater which is great. They should do that on all washer and dishwashers.

You can add items during the first 8 minutes of a standard wash cycle. push pause and the door unlocks. Try doing that with a tub 1/2 full of water on the window.

I do have a cement floor. I know what you mean about the wood floors. I can just imagine someone would need to put down a thick plywood floor in order to use this. Even standard top loaders are more prone to vibration if the floor isn't sound.

so I have more pics. Tonight I had the fun of installing.
First we start out with removing the shipping bolts.


Post# 225527 , Reply# 17   7/27/2007 at 01:46 (6,116 days old) by washertalk ()        

it says through them out but why, what If I move?

Post# 225528 , Reply# 18   7/27/2007 at 01:49 (6,116 days old) by washertalk ()        

this what they look like. They ship it with the oord tucked into the machine which was kinda weird as I was removing the bolts the cord would move around and I thought part of the bolt fell off and I feared having to open up the machine to retreive that peice.

Post# 225529 , Reply# 19   7/27/2007 at 01:51 (6,116 days old) by washertalk ()        

nicely they preconnect the drain hose and wrap it around the back. Are people getting so incompetent they can't install a drain hose I wonder. Even on the toploaders now the hose comes tucked into the machine. all you do is pull it out.

Post# 225530 , Reply# 20   7/27/2007 at 01:52 (6,116 days old) by washertalk ()        

pulling the cord out of the inside.

Post# 225531 , Reply# 21   7/27/2007 at 01:53 (6,116 days old) by washertalk ()        

installing the hole cover on electrical cord hole

Post# 225532 , Reply# 22   7/27/2007 at 01:54 (6,116 days old) by washertalk ()        

Now installing hole covers for the shipping bolt holes

Post# 225533 , Reply# 23   7/27/2007 at 01:55 (6,116 days old) by washertalk ()        

the holes, obviously wate would just come pouring out of these holes if these loose fitting covers weren't in place.

Post# 225534 , Reply# 24   7/27/2007 at 01:56 (6,116 days old) by washertalk ()        

the covers installed

Post# 225535 , Reply# 25   7/27/2007 at 01:57 (6,116 days old) by washertalk ()        

so now take hoses out of the tub

Post# 225536 , Reply# 26   7/27/2007 at 01:58 (6,116 days old) by washertalk ()        

the hoses and tide

Post# 225537 , Reply# 27   7/27/2007 at 01:59 (6,116 days old) by washertalk ()        

The hoses are looks like pex, which is awesome plumbing material.

Post# 225538 , Reply# 28   7/27/2007 at 02:00 (6,116 days old) by washertalk ()        

installing the water hoses

Post# 225539 , Reply# 29   7/27/2007 at 02:02 (6,116 days old) by washertalk ()        

the drain hose end. Remember black thick rubber hose. Those aweful Maytags one in particular. They were TOO thick and inflexible.. And they would leave black marks on walls. And they weighed alot too.

Post# 225540 , Reply# 30   7/27/2007 at 02:03 (6,116 days old) by washertalk ()        

the formed hook

Post# 225541 , Reply# 31   7/27/2007 at 02:04 (6,116 days old) by washertalk ()        

so now it is very important to level the machine.

Post# 225542 , Reply# 32   7/27/2007 at 02:05 (6,116 days old) by washertalk ()        

not good level either front to back or side to side.

Post# 225543 , Reply# 33   7/27/2007 at 02:07 (6,116 days old) by washertalk ()        

the bottom. The metal legs and bolts work so nice when they are new, and not rusted and full of lint. This is one thing with the toploaders though. the easy level pull up the back slightly and let the rear legs level. you can't do that here.

Post# 225545 , Reply# 34   7/27/2007 at 02:09 (6,116 days old) by washertalk ()        

looks good

Post# 225546 , Reply# 35   7/27/2007 at 02:11 (6,116 days old) by washertalk ()        

1st wash cycle.

Post# 225547 , Reply# 36   7/27/2007 at 02:13 (6,116 days old) by washertalk ()        

the panel

Post# 225548 , Reply# 37   7/27/2007 at 02:15 (6,116 days old) by washertalk ()        

WOW, It's like Christmas. Look at the lights. and with music too. Not just beeps. I didn't expect this. I knew there would be indicator lights in the designated area. WOW.

Post# 225549 , Reply# 38   7/27/2007 at 02:16 (6,116 days old) by washertalk ()        

putting HE detergent in.

Post# 225550 , Reply# 39   7/27/2007 at 02:17 (6,116 days old) by washertalk ()        

measured

Post# 225551 , Reply# 40   7/27/2007 at 02:18 (6,116 days old) by washertalk ()        

like a jukebox. This isn't even all the lights when it is running.

Post# 225552 , Reply# 41   7/27/2007 at 02:18 (6,116 days old) by washertalk ()        

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Post# 225553 , Reply# 42   7/27/2007 at 02:19 (6,116 days old) by washertalk ()        

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Post# 225554 , Reply# 43   7/27/2007 at 02:20 (6,116 days old) by washertalk ()        

I'm choosing Normal and want the light soil

Post# 225555 , Reply# 44   7/27/2007 at 02:21 (6,116 days old) by washertalk ()        

push and hold to start

Post# 225556 , Reply# 45   7/27/2007 at 02:21 (6,116 days old) by washertalk ()        

.

Post# 225557 , Reply# 46   7/27/2007 at 02:22 (6,116 days old) by washertalk ()        

water action. filling and turning. A better picture than I thougt i would get. I will have to remember this angle.

Post# 225560 , Reply# 47   7/27/2007 at 02:51 (6,116 days old) by washertalk ()        

1 minute left.
At my friends their 2002 Duet had what I thought was a loud pump. Here it isn't much louder than a fountain pump. I suppose with age they make more noise. But it is easy to replace them I would think. Especially compared to say a belt-drive whirlpool. OMG.
I swear our Kenmore rotorack expelled more water after a wash than this did after a wash. Then again it is empty.
Also, it seemed like it did 2 rinses. A second rinse wasn't selected. Or should I say, "extra Rinse" I'll have to check that.
I must have installed it right because there was no vibration. The detergent bottle on top didn't even move. But then again, it was empty. we'll see how it does under normal circumstances.
During the last 5 minutes it steps up the spin speed giving the last 2 minutes the final maximum spin. Then finishes the last minute with a no pump out gentle back and forth to remove the clothes from the walls and help keep wrinkles from setting. Excellent.

So, now its connected. I want to try some stains and see how it does.

Where am I going to get stained laundry? lol
I'm too anal about keeping things clean. lol.

Maybe the neighbor. she has kids. And I bet she wouldn't mind having laundry done too. Then there is the Sweet Elderly couple at the end of the block. I hear they have a certain incontinence issue they are dealing with if you know what I mean. hmm. How far to take this? The hospitals morgue. the highway department people who pick up dead animals? zoo workers. construction workers at the nearby "water treatment" plant? the lesbian couple with 3 dogs and 4 cats and a kinky sex life? Ya gotta git me summ-tin' here !!!

So send your stained laundry in care of Erik ... Ah, I better watch what I start here.



Post# 225564 , Reply# 48   7/27/2007 at 03:24 (6,116 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Thank you, thank you, thank you for the wonderful pictures! It's great to see how you set up the machine.

So you're all set for stained laundry? Earlier this week I polished my shoes in my underwear. Some nasty stains there!

But what's that with not washing on hot anymore? It's good for killing dustmites. And you'll have the whitest whites using hot or extra hot.

BTW that Tide HE with bleach, is that new?

Louis


Post# 225569 , Reply# 49   7/27/2007 at 04:26 (6,116 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Bleach "Alternative"

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P&G does not have a liquid Tide with oxygen bleach, HE or regular. IIRC there is something difficult about formulating liquid detergents with oxygen bleaches. Any who, the "alternative" is either enzymes and or optical brightening agents designed to give wash the bright look of having been bleached.



Post# 225580 , Reply# 50   7/27/2007 at 08:11 (6,116 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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Great pictures - it looks like you have a very nice washer. I love my Duet and as long as you keep using that Tide HE, you'll love the stain removal ability of the washer, most are removed with no pre-treating. Grass stains are amazing - *poof* gone like magic! Keep the inquiring minds posted on what you think of the machine in the coming weeks, it's very exciting getting a new washer for all of us.

Great waterfall shot too - G


Post# 225637 , Reply# 51   7/27/2007 at 15:06 (6,116 days old) by washerfanatic ()        
I'm puzzled, too

I'm also puzzled as to why he decided to avoid hot washes. I always use hot and Clorox Bleach for whites and nasty white and chlorine safe towels we use daily. Just yesterday, my brother's bedding, which is black, was stinking so bad, I HAD to resort to hot washing just to remove the stench. And the cool part is that if I use my stain cycle on my whites setting, the first rinse is really hot as well.

Post# 225642 , Reply# 52   7/27/2007 at 15:58 (6,116 days old) by washertalk ()        

I know, I used to use hot for washing whites, towels, and bed sheets. But no more, most of the time.

I think what started it was my 300 thread count sheets that I bought new. The label said warm wash. but I didn't listen and within 6 months or so it was literally disintegrating. And it is true that the more stress you put on clothing, the faster it will wear out.

Of my clothing I have always pampered those items and I have pieces that are 15 years old plus and and are among my favorite and look great.

I don't like to waste, I don't need to waste, It isn't good for the environment. I don't have have the patented American fear of germs(amongst a whole sick list of other irrational fears) that are exploited by commercial interests.
And now that I know that the washer itself can make the difference in how clean an item is. I have a Duet.

As far as killing mites and the like.
I have found that putting items in the freezer works very good.
I have a bucket for food waste items before they go to the compost bin.
I put the vacuum bags in a bag and then in the freezer when not in use.
I trade off kitchen sponges and when the current one is completely dry I will put it in the freezer for a couple of days.
I would guess one could do the same for clothing/sheet/rugs etc. And it works great. No chemicals involved.(so you probably won't hear about it in the republican owned media). Also, throw pillows and childrens stuffed animals in and it kills germs and mites.

When I go to vacuum, you can smell the difference. What comes out of the exhaust smells clean and almost a hint of bleach.

Also as for washing, I tend to be a soaker. I liked the fact that the Duet has a soak cycle. Soaking is so gentle, no matter what it is. Let the water do the work. Again, you don't even need chemicals. Just patience, something not encouraged in the U.S.

So, as for the first test. I have these drop cloth type sheets. they are just old sheets that I use when ever I want to contain a mess. in the car. painting as splatter guard, to cover furniture, to cover carpet when moving something dirt, etc. Anyway today I moved several things in my car that were dirty. I had the sheets covering the seat so there is no mess in the car or the trunk. Now I have some sheets that have grease and dirt and rust stains on them. And as a special bonus- you also win... No.
I have rubbed some of them in grass and mud. I crushed a red flower in one, and spilled several food items on them as you will see. This was at 3:30 eastern time. I am going to let them set and hopefully dry and in about 2 hours put them in for the soak cycle and then a nice long wash. Any bet on what will come out and what won't.
These sheets I have had for a long time and always wash and fold when they are not in use. But they have rips and paint stains. They have certainly earned their keep.

So here is salsa


Post# 225643 , Reply# 53   7/27/2007 at 15:58 (6,116 days old) by washertalk ()        

jelly and A-1 sauce

Post# 225644 , Reply# 54   7/27/2007 at 15:59 (6,116 days old) by washertalk ()        

grass stains and mud

Post# 225646 , Reply# 55   7/27/2007 at 16:00 (6,116 days old) by washertalk ()        

grease and warehouse floor dirt, rust stains

Post# 225647 , Reply# 56   7/27/2007 at 16:01 (6,116 days old) by washertalk ()        

crushed red flower

Post# 225650 , Reply# 57   7/27/2007 at 16:26 (6,116 days old) by neptunebob (Pittsburgh, PA)        
Why not ask Michael Moore?

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Here is a special offer from the movie "SiCKO" made by Michael Moore. If you can get a Republican to see "Sicko", you can enter a drawing to have Michael Moore come and do your laundry (It turns out that in France, their health care system will provide someone to do your laundry while you are recovering from surgery). Think he would like using the Duet?

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Post# 225652 , Reply# 58   7/27/2007 at 16:48 (6,116 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)        

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Erik, I can't wait to see the results. Keep in mind that while it can provide amazing results, the Duet is not a miracle worker and needs you to work with it by making the right cycle selections. I'm assuming you'll use hot or super hot (sanitary cycle only) for these tarp/sheets. If you only use warm, the machine may not get the stains out completely. Recently my partner ran mattress pads from both of our king size beds through (separately) on sanitary. They came out looking like new and all stains were gone. These pads had been washed (more like barely swished around) and dried in our Amana pair ('97 TL) a number of times before and the stains remained. Even after being cooked in and set by the overheating Amana dryer, the Duet managed to get rid of every last stain. I don't think my partner even used bleach because we had none on hand at the time.

As I said, I can't wait to see how your stuff turns out. I do love my Duets!

Ralph


Post# 225657 , Reply# 59   7/27/2007 at 17:31 (6,115 days old) by washertalk ()        

I'm starting a new thread since the subject has changed from install to washing and stain removal with the Duet.


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