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Duet first wash and stain removal
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Post# 225658   7/27/2007 at 17:39 (6,111 days old) by washertalk ()        

So those sheets sat with the stains on them until about 6pm eastern time. About 2 1/2 hours. I also found some other sheets I am throwing with them. I had one that had some various dirt stains on it that were allowed to dry and never came out. however I washed these sheets in my friends Duet and I think they all came out. So I am hopeful for the tomato/jelly stains. We'll see.

So I am also throwing in this pair of gloves I used last weekend for yard work. They literally have been soaking all week with detergent. Really, you may ask, as I did when I first put them in the bucket. "Why don't I just throw them out?" All the fingers are worn through. lol. This is their last wash thats for sure.






Post# 225659 , Reply# 1   7/27/2007 at 17:41 (6,111 days old) by washertalk ()        

I found this sheet with has actual dried red something. I don't know?

Post# 225660 , Reply# 2   7/27/2007 at 17:41 (6,111 days old) by washertalk ()        

loading

Post# 225661 , Reply# 3   7/27/2007 at 17:42 (6,111 days old) by washertalk ()        

I think there is 7 sheets, a white towel, and the gloves.

Post# 225662 , Reply# 4   7/27/2007 at 17:43 (6,111 days old) by washertalk ()        

does this look like a full load. I don't think I would put this many items in my KM toploader.?

Post# 225663 , Reply# 5   7/27/2007 at 17:44 (6,111 days old) by washertalk ()        

power on, doing a pre-rinse first, then a soak, then I'll choose a cycle.

Post# 225664 , Reply# 6   7/27/2007 at 17:45 (6,111 days old) by washertalk ()        

I'm using warm water

Post# 225665 , Reply# 7   7/27/2007 at 17:45 (6,111 days old) by washertalk ()        

filling action

Post# 225666 , Reply# 8   7/27/2007 at 17:46 (6,111 days old) by washertalk ()        

tumble and fill

Post# 225667 , Reply# 9   7/27/2007 at 17:47 (6,111 days old) by washertalk ()        

now, which cycle to use after the extended soak?

Post# 225669 , Reply# 10   7/27/2007 at 18:11 (6,111 days old) by irishwashguy (Salem,Oregon.............A Capital City)        
I would use Hot

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I usually never use bleach except for really stubborn stains on whites that will not come out after it has been washed. Although my machine is a cold fill, and the water heats up as the clothes are washing, I have found that my clothes do really well in a FL, moreso than a TL.Plus, the pre wash is usually cold, in my machine that is 85 F.The highest temp, which I only use for sheet clients, is 190 F
they have held up great. I believe that dirt will wear something out faster than hot water.When the temp is bumped up in steps, it is much easier on the fabrics.I almost never wash anything with elestic on anything past 140 F, unless it is really dirty, soak is great for that. You have a Gorgious washer.Enjoy it.Good luck on your first load.With Hot, I think that you will be amazed.


Post# 225671 , Reply# 11   7/27/2007 at 18:23 (6,111 days old) by pulsator (Saint Joseph, MI)        

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I can't wait to see the reults! As for that being a full load, it's not! The great thing about this washer is you can actually stuff it! Granted, you don't want to be struggling to get the door closed, but because of the wash action, you can REALLY fill it up!!! When we first got our Duet washer, I did 2 weeks worth of laundry in one load! That's 14 full outfits!

Post# 225676 , Reply# 12   7/27/2007 at 20:29 (6,111 days old) by washertalk ()        

Thanks for the comments. It feels cool being able to share this stuff with others who appreciate it.

So the rinse finish and I set it to soak


Post# 225677 , Reply# 13   7/27/2007 at 20:29 (6,111 days old) by washertalk ()        

I changed the time to a heavy soak.

Post# 225678 , Reply# 14   7/27/2007 at 20:30 (6,111 days old) by washertalk ()        

added detergent

Post# 225679 , Reply# 15   7/27/2007 at 20:30 (6,111 days old) by washertalk ()        

press start

Post# 225680 , Reply# 16   7/27/2007 at 20:32 (6,111 days old) by washertalk ()        

at the point of 15 minutes left in the cycle.

It is sooo quiet in general. but when it is doing the soak it will turn for a second and then sit for 10 seconds and you wonder if there is something wrong. awesome.


Post# 225681 , Reply# 17   7/27/2007 at 20:33 (6,111 days old) by washertalk ()        

sitting soaking

Post# 225682 , Reply# 18   7/27/2007 at 20:34 (6,111 days old) by washertalk ()        

I didn't even have time to eat my dinner after taking a phone call it was done already.

Post# 225683 , Reply# 19   7/27/2007 at 20:36 (6,111 days old) by washertalk ()        

OK, so I decided that the Whitest-Whites cycle would be best as it provided long wash time and the option to change temperatures.
The Sanitizing cycle scares me. It only did the heated HOT cycle. The name brings up alot of negative references.



Post# 225684 , Reply# 20   7/27/2007 at 20:44 (6,111 days old) by washertalk ()        

I went for the Heaviest longest wash and, I'm sure you'll be surprised, WARM wash. The default is HOT (not "super hot" as they call it)
Look at that time. And I forgot that it automatically turns on the extra rinse option, as you can see illuminated. Still it didn't seem like it took that long. Though it does say estimated time. The computer gives an allowance in case it has to perform suds lock elimination or who knows what else.


Post# 225685 , Reply# 21   7/27/2007 at 20:46 (6,111 days old) by washertalk ()        

So it is difficult to show the clothes moving in still pictures. I have a video camera but probably don't have the hardware to connect to my computer.

Post# 225686 , Reply# 22   7/27/2007 at 20:46 (6,111 days old) by washertalk ()        

more wash action

Post# 225687 , Reply# 23   7/27/2007 at 20:47 (6,111 days old) by washertalk ()        

another wash action. I got one of the gloves towards the front

Post# 225688 , Reply# 24   7/27/2007 at 20:49 (6,111 days old) by washertalk ()        

so I ate my dinner. I read some email. and the washer is quietly done.
I need to remove the clear plastic film on the door, too.


Post# 225689 , Reply# 25   7/27/2007 at 20:59 (6,111 days old) by washertalk ()        

now honestly, I didn't expect the tomato stains to come out. or the grass stains either. Now remember, this was a warm water wash.

The long red dried stain I did not find.
there is no grass, mud, grease, warehouse floor dirt.
other than the pre-existing paint stains, which for the most part are beige or white and don't show up on camera there was only one very faint, I think food stain. I lightened the pic. to show it.
I was prepared to rewash anything that didn't come out and Use hot water if need be but I didn't. (These are after all Utility sheets)
I was a little disappointed in the gloves. But, these $2 gloves are meant to be thrown away after a couple of uses and I have washed them probably 6 times aready. I have found that because they are not made of the best material it doesn't take much to stain them. They will be able to be used again. lol.

As i tried to explain earlier, (and didn't do a thorough job of) I had a sheet which has been used on the garage floor and got wet and had black marks in several areas, and was allowed to dry like that and the marks didn't come out. It was like that for a year. Until I washed it in my friends Duet.

This is the only stain I suspect is food. I scanned all the scheets, both sides. The 2 sheets that I deliberately stained I went over twice.


Post# 225690 , Reply# 26   7/27/2007 at 21:00 (6,111 days old) by washertalk ()        

this has beige paint specks which are fading and because my cheap (yet reliable) camera doesn't have the best resolution.

Post# 225691 , Reply# 27   7/27/2007 at 21:02 (6,111 days old) by washertalk ()        

here is the larges paint stain from 2 years ago. A drop of exterior Tan paint from painting a door.

Post# 225692 , Reply# 28   7/27/2007 at 21:07 (6,111 days old) by washertalk ()        

So as of yet the machine has not made any off-balance sounds. It doesn't sound any different with the clothes in compared to when it was empty.
Now when it spins the detergent bottle wabbles a little bit sitting on top.

Who every thought the day would come when the dryer would actually make more noise than the washer.

So I'm going to need some of these sheets tomorrow. I'm going to a nude beach on a date. I can use the sheets to sit on. We'll see what kind of stains I come home with.



Here is the gloves. Still wet.


Post# 225734 , Reply# 29   7/28/2007 at 02:43 (6,110 days old) by dj-gabriele ()        

Deinitely a nice machine I must say, also super capacity! As for stain removal it doesn't surprise me it gets your clothes fairly clean, it's a front loader! ;) About water temperature, doesn't it say what hor/super hot are? I believe those are around 60°C and 90°C, isn't it? Warm around 35-40°C and cold...well it's cold. :D
And the spin speed? How fast does it go, better than 1200rpm?


Post# 225745 , Reply# 30   7/28/2007 at 07:42 (6,110 days old) by lavamat78800 ()        

Why did you use a liquid for those stains?

Post# 225747 , Reply# 31   7/28/2007 at 08:04 (6,110 days old) by 2drumsallergy ()        
Just Beautiful

Congratulations on your beautiful new Whirlpool washer, I love the styling of these machines modern and elegant.
It should be a really quiet machine thanks to its 3 Phase (Inverter) Induction Motor.
I wish you many years of happy washing.

David


Post# 225760 , Reply# 32   7/28/2007 at 10:51 (6,110 days old) by pulsator (Saint Joseph, MI)        

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The Duet doesn't have a 3-phase motor, only heavy duty commercial washers have 3-phase power run to them. 3-phase power is almost never run to residential areas because it's so incredibly expensive to have put in.

Post# 225787 , Reply# 33   7/28/2007 at 13:55 (6,110 days old) by 2drumsallergy ()        
Simulated 3 Phase (Inverter Technology)

Hello Pulsator,
I'm an appliance engineer by trade and I can assure you that the Duets are fitted with 3 Phase Induction Motors. Your comments regarding 3 Phase power are correct however the Duet uses an Electronic Inverter to simulate a 3 Phase supply and raise the frequency to over 300Hz during the spin cycle; the high frequency is required to attain the high motor shaft speeds 10,000RPM plus on top spin.
A lot of top end washers use this technology from Hotpoint UK to Miele.

David


Post# 225805 , Reply# 34   7/28/2007 at 16:09 (6,110 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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That wasn't a full load. Heavy duty would have started with warm water and heated it to hot. It is the equivalent of Stain Treat option on Kenmores.

Post# 225822 , Reply# 35   7/28/2007 at 18:39 (6,110 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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Erik those are great pictures!!! Thank you. Congrats on the new machine and I love the round green lights circling around the buttons, those are super cool!

Post# 225886 , Reply# 36   7/29/2007 at 05:56 (6,109 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Nice pictures! Thanks! If you want even better results, I agree you should use powder instead of liquid detergent. And I would definitely try the Heavy Duty cycle sometimes, most whites can handle those temperatures. IIRC, the hottest temperature is 153*F (65*C) which isn't that hot for whites. Overhere in Europe we are used to washing whites much hotter.

BTW, that salad looks yummie!

Louis


Post# 225904 , Reply# 37   7/29/2007 at 08:45 (6,109 days old) by washertalk ()        

Thanks for the comments everyone. I will try the Heavy Duty cycle, Bob and Louis, for sure the next time I wash that sheet to see if I can get the last stain removed. I will even use HOT !

So if there is another thread somewhere about the differences between the cleaning ability of Powder vs Liquid, let me know.
Otherwise, why is one preferred. I did see a box of HE the other day at the grocery store. I know your supposed to use that if your going to use the timed delay.


Post# 225922 , Reply# 38   7/29/2007 at 09:38 (6,109 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Erik, I'm not sure if there is a thread going on about powder vs liquid, I don't keep up with all the threads these days. Launderess might be able to tell you more about this, she is very knowledgeable on detergent. IIRC it is difficult to keep all the ingredients working in a liquid, powders are much more stabile.


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