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Post# 229830   8/12/2007 at 10:37 (6,073 days old) by northernmary (Huddersfield - West Yorkshire)   |   | |
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old style miele machine ! someone has got to save this one !!
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Post# 229835 , Reply# 1   8/12/2007 at 10:59 (6,073 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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Post# 229851 , Reply# 2   8/12/2007 at 11:39 (6,073 days old) by mielabor ()   |   | |
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I agree, the information is total nonsense. It seems to be a bolt-down machine. |
Post# 229853 , Reply# 3   8/12/2007 at 11:43 (6,073 days old) by lavamat_jon (UK)   |   | |
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Nice machine, not too far away from me earlier! Shame I don't have any space :-(. Jon |
Post# 229858 , Reply# 4   8/12/2007 at 12:06 (6,073 days old) by askomiele (Belgium Ghent)   |   | |
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I don't have the space nor the electrice hook up:p |
Post# 229863 , Reply# 5   8/12/2007 at 12:14 (6,073 days old) by mielabor ()   |   | |
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Many of these 400 Volt Mieles can be changed to 230 Volt by re-arranging some connector strips in the machine. The result is a reduced heater capacity. |
Post# 230385 , Reply# 7   8/14/2007 at 01:17 (6,071 days old) by hooverzodiac12 (Melbourne, Australia)   |   | |
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Post# 230391 , Reply# 8   8/14/2007 at 01:54 (6,071 days old) by irishwashguy (Salem,Oregon.............A Capital City)   |   | |
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What would the top spin and or heater capacity be on this machine? I take it from looking at the controls that this machine picks the water level for you? How do bolt down something like this? This machine looks incredible for being about 40= years old from what my Gay eye tells me. PS-Does that mean that you would have to get a new cord for this machine?As I said, I have never seen an old one in person, the states have only had Miele since 1988. |
Post# 230399 , Reply# 10   8/14/2007 at 04:04 (6,071 days old) by lederstiefel1 ()   |   | |
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Sorry - just saw it has only FOUR rinse cycles! So it's defenitely a commercial washer as the household machines had five! Ralf |
Post# 230442 , Reply# 12   8/14/2007 at 09:44 (6,071 days old) by irishwashguy (Salem,Oregon.............A Capital City)   |   | |
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Post# 230450 , Reply# 17   8/14/2007 at 10:11 (6,071 days old) by mielabor ()   |   | |
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Hmm, now I come to think of it: Chlorine bleach is also used in our Miele laboratory washer. We have a big 20 litre container next to the machine and the bleach is pumped out of it by the machine itself. |
Post# 230474 , Reply# 18   8/14/2007 at 12:42 (6,071 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Lack of drain pumps is one reason commercial/laundromat washing machines last for ages, if not forever. No drain pump also means that these machines do not have to slow down spinning during high foam and or water draining situations, thus each spin gives full extraction. Finally no drain pump in theory means one less part to maintain/repair. One reason one prefers hauling large down duvets to the laundromat or sending them to a commercial laundry is that those large washers do not mess around when it comes to spinning/draining out the massive amounts of water such items can hold. It is kind of scary to feel the vibrations coming through the concrete floor as the machine ramps up to speed, and watch cascades of water pour down the window of the washing machine door. On domestic/pump washing machines so much water would surely slow down the pump, and if the water amount was great, the spin cycle might time out before total extraction. My vintage Miele using a series of short (30 sec) spins before the main final spin to help make sure much of the water is gone so the final spin can do it's job. Miele washing machines and chlorine bleach: According to the Miele techs one has spoken to, contrary to popular belief, it is the electrical components inside the drum (one presumes the sensors that deal with heating and such), that are sensitive to chlorine bleach damage. Miele's new uber washers sold in the United States allow use of LCB, though the warranty on the tubs is no longer lifetime, IIRC; and the outer tub is fiberglass. Chlorine bleach and European laundries: Europeans have in general not be huge fans of chlorine bleach (eau de Javel in France), mainly because even back in the 1700's it was known chlorine bleach weakens and can damage textiles, especially linen. Many well off households stuck to bleaching fields and then boiling with perborate bleaching and or sent their laundry out to the country (where one assumes clean air and land could be found for sun bleaching). Story is that some very wealthy French familes would send their laundry off to the French West Indies to make sure it was done in clean water and fresh air/sunshine. Being as all this may, there are simply certian stains that will not shift with oxygen bleaching, and or would require such long boiling times the stains would not shift, that using a quick chlorine bath is the only remedy. Commercial laundries have access to a rather powerful chlorine bleach designed to "reclaim" badly stained linens. We're talking about items so badly stained that if the bleach ruined them it wouldn't matter as they were otherwise going to the rag bin. L. |
Post# 230481 , Reply# 19   8/14/2007 at 13:45 (6,071 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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This machine has a wider body than the household machine and also had a bigger capacity. It is supposed to hold 7kg of laundry. The father of a school friend had a Miele laundromat for a while. We sometimes went there when the girl who worked there had to go to the dentist or something like that. The washers were model 707, similar to the 706. I loved the sounds that these machines made. There always was a loud click, or perhaps more like a bang, I'm not sure, but I think it was the opening or closing of the drain valve. I'm not sure if the spinspeed is 700 rpm, that is the spinspeed of the household machines. It seems a bit much for a bolt down machine, usually they spin slower. The laundry was rather wet when it came out of the machine, we put it through a commercial spindryer before putting it in the dryer. There is no bleach dispenser IIRC, just prewash, main wash and softener. We used to put 1/3 of a small package of detergent in the prewash and 2/3 in the main wash. I can't remember what kind of detergent was sold in the laundromat. BTW, I think the machines at the laundromat had gas burners. Louis |
Post# 230498 , Reply# 21   8/14/2007 at 15:31 (6,071 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Laundromat front loading machines in the United States have long allowed chlorine bleach, and have little to show in terms of damage besides the dispensers. Mind you those dispensers used to be SS, but now for the most part are plastic. Inner drums from what one could see never suffered much damage, but cannot speak of the outer drums since those are not easily visable. However most all commercial front loaders are easily "rebuilt" with parts designed to be replaced, including rear bearings. So perhaps even if the use or over use of LCB caused damage, those parts that failed were swapped out when the machine was over-hauled. L. |
Post# 230499 , Reply# 22   8/14/2007 at 15:31 (6,071 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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Theo, The Bendix machines in the laundromat you used to visit probably came with instructions to use chlorine bleach for white laundry. The owner of the laundromat just followed those instructions and made it possible to use bleach. Miele commercial machines didn't have such an option AFAIK, at least not the machines that were at the laundromat of my friend's father. I don't think this is a matter of age, just a difference between American and German laundry equipment. Louis |
Post# 230503 , Reply# 23   8/14/2007 at 15:39 (6,071 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Bolt down washing machines don't need them and for the most part are one of the reasons commercial washers run (again) for ages. Forces generated by the machine are sent down into the concrete and dispersed through the building/floor. Because of this such washers will wash a full "load" and more importantly spin even when unbalanced. Trust me you do not want to be around a washer spinning 35lbs or more of wet laundry with either poor or overwhelmed suspension system. By and large commercial units are designed under the KISS (Keep It Simple Stupid)principle when it comes to mechanics. True some may have fancy electronic controls, but the the nuts and bolts of the units are simple and built to last. Contrast this to many of today's domestic front loaders that have hundred of "options" but are built like tin boxes and probably won't give ten years of decent service before being dumped into the rubbish heap. It is VERY easy to find commercial washing machines 50 or so years old that still are chugging along doing their job. |
Post# 230640 , Reply# 27   8/15/2007 at 08:00 (6,070 days old) by mielabor ()   |   | |
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I can't remember that I have ever seen a coulisse-dryer. I suppose that they were only used in commercial settings? |
Post# 230681 , Reply# 30   8/15/2007 at 12:15 (6,070 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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Post# 230699 , Reply# 32   8/15/2007 at 14:15 (6,070 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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Post# 230919 , Reply# 40   8/16/2007 at 11:14 (6,069 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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Actually Dutch is a rather old language, the sentence above is the oldest written one that was found. It's too simple to say that is a modern form of middle age German or a combination of French, German and English. The basis of the languages in this part of Europe is a West Germanic (not German) language. There are also the dialects that were spoken overhere and Latin that had it's influence on the Dutch language. And the meaning of the first sentence? All birds are nestling, what are we waiting for? |
Post# 230920 , Reply# 41   8/16/2007 at 11:17 (6,069 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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Post# 230921 , Reply# 42   8/16/2007 at 11:20 (6,069 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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Post# 230923 , Reply# 43   8/16/2007 at 11:24 (6,069 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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Now I am posting pictures, I'd better post a picture of a Philips toploader as well. Just for memories sake, don't get nightmares Ralf! ;-) An aunt of mine had this particular machine and although it never ran when I was able to look at it, I was totally fascinated by it. I loved the big dial and the row of pushbuttons and the glass lid was intriguing too. |
Post# 230967 , Reply# 47   8/16/2007 at 14:45 (6,069 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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Post# 230968 , Reply# 48   8/16/2007 at 14:47 (6,069 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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Post# 230985 , Reply# 50   8/16/2007 at 16:58 (6,069 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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