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my Kenmore dishwasher Bob's load
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Post# 231498   8/19/2007 at 09:16 (6,094 days old) by maytagwc401 ()        

Do you think this is a Bob's load?




Post# 231509 , Reply# 1   8/19/2007 at 10:16 (6,094 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Yes, wish I could have seen each rack individually.

Post# 231513 , Reply# 2   8/19/2007 at 10:40 (6,094 days old) by maytagwc401 ()        

top rack

Post# 231514 , Reply# 3   8/19/2007 at 10:42 (6,094 days old) by maytagwc401 ()        

bottom rack took a while to figure out. first post with pictures.

thanks.


Post# 231515 , Reply# 4   8/19/2007 at 10:45 (6,094 days old) by funguy10 ()        

You have the same dishwasher as me! But to prove it could you show me a picture of the outside?

Post# 231532 , Reply# 5   8/19/2007 at 12:39 (6,094 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Yup. And if they were filthy dirty before the machine was run, it would definitely qualify.

Post# 231556 , Reply# 6   8/19/2007 at 14:45 (6,094 days old) by maytagwc401 ()        

here's the outside. I will get a filthy load soon. I just got a new camera so I took a picture of the load I had. But I usually cram in more.

Post# 231586 , Reply# 7   8/19/2007 at 18:05 (6,093 days old) by funguy10 ()        

Wow! Stainless Steel! Mine is only Black on the outside! What is that shiny part on the left of the cnsole where the Kenmore logo is?

Post# 231647 , Reply# 8   8/19/2007 at 20:51 (6,093 days old) by maytagwc401 ()        

The shiny part is the reflection of my patio door behind me.

Post# 231846 , Reply# 9   8/20/2007 at 20:32 (6,092 days old) by maytagwc401 ()        

filthy load bottom

Post# 231848 , Reply# 10   8/20/2007 at 20:34 (6,092 days old) by maytagwc401 ()        

filthy load top rack

Post# 231849 , Reply# 11   8/20/2007 at 20:35 (6,092 days old) by maytagwc401 ()        

both racks and all the food scrap on the door

Post# 231852 , Reply# 12   8/20/2007 at 20:38 (6,092 days old) by maytagwc401 ()        

normal cycle, water heat and no heat dry selected. Which means 1 wash, 2 rinses. My sensor never made it longer in 8 years of usage. (no prewash) Cascade powder(both dispensers).

Post# 231853 , Reply# 13   8/20/2007 at 20:39 (6,092 days old) by maytagwc401 ()        

here's the result bottom rack spotless.

Post# 231854 , Reply# 14   8/20/2007 at 20:40 (6,092 days old) by maytagwc401 ()        

top rack. also spotless. as always with this Kenmore dishwasher.

Post# 231865 , Reply# 15   8/20/2007 at 21:34 (6,092 days old) by jakeseacrest (Massachusetts)        

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I used to have the portable version of this machine, which my sister now owns. I never ever took a dirty dish out of this machine. I actually never got to use the Pots and Pans cycle either because everything was spotless with Normal and Hi Temp wash. I caught my sister pre rinsing her dishes the other day using HOT WATER. I nearly had a heart attack! She said that she was afraid that the dishwasher wouldn't clean off the leftovers! I am trying to break her out of the habit...fast!

Post# 231868 , Reply# 16   8/20/2007 at 21:38 (6,092 days old) by tlee618 ()        

Serge that is one great dishwasher, I wish my GE could produce results like that.

Post# 231888 , Reply# 17   8/21/2007 at 01:14 (6,092 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Terry, I hate to tell you, but I consider that load to be light to moderte soil AT BEST!! That's hardly much of any dirty for any dishwasher I've ever used. Serge, that's wayy too much detergent (both dispensers) for that soil level. Your sensor has never added a pre-wash if that's all the soil you put in there (hope I'm not offending you). I'm finding I rarely need both cups filled on my Kenmore Elite Tall Tub, and ya should have seen what I threw at it afer making chicken pasta salad. I guess it's time for another "nicely cooked" meatloaf dinner with glenn & rj and glenn take pics!!! (compare GE potscrubber & my elite TT). Maybe Venus needs to come along too so I can tie her in a chair and torture her while I throw slimey, encrusted stuff in my dishwasher!!

Post# 231889 , Reply# 18   8/21/2007 at 01:17 (6,092 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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I will tell ya, I've had two absolutely filthy, dirty loads since I've gotten the new dishwasher in May. How did I know they were so bad? Because there were 3 auto filter purges in the prewash & two in the main wash. that's only happened twice. and maybe two times when there's been one purge in the main wash. Oatmeal bowls and maybe a pan or two for rice collect in a week. That'll get 3 purges in the prewash no purge in the main wash. Heck I did a crem of broccoli production load tonight and no soil purges happened at all!!

Post# 231910 , Reply# 19   8/21/2007 at 07:10 (6,092 days old) by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada)        

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Crazy question maybe....but what are these 'purges' you are referring to? Just wondering if my new KitchenAid has these purges also.

Gary


Post# 231913 , Reply# 20   8/21/2007 at 07:16 (6,092 days old) by funguy10 ()        

What do mean by"new dishwasher". What happened to the TurboZone from a previous post? And you're right about the cleaning preformence. Mine is 9-10 years old and still cleans like the day it was installed! We always use the normal cycle with heated wash. The sensor always shortens to one wash and it takes about a half hour to heat the water so the whole cycle takes about two hours. The machine is pretty quiet due to the QuietGuard sound insulation.

Post# 231917 , Reply# 21   8/21/2007 at 08:11 (6,092 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Funguy, it is the same dishwasher you're thinking about. Gary, for my TT, the purge is a 35 second fill (very partial) and a 15 second circulation of water and then it drains. Magic Clean says the load is being rinsed with that amount of water and it is also cleaning the filter, if needed.

Post# 231929 , Reply# 22   8/21/2007 at 09:36 (6,092 days old) by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada)        

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Thanks Appnut. I guess my KitchenAid does these purges also. When it starts, I hear the water filling for about 30 seconds, then circulates for a few seconds and drains. Also, during the wash cycle, it pauses for a few seconds (I'm assuming that is when it is 'sensing' how dirty the water is) and then starts washing again.

Gary


Post# 232091 , Reply# 23   8/21/2007 at 23:12 (6,091 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Actually that 5 second or so circulate after 55 seconds of fill (on my Elite) is sort of a "conditioning" of the tank. It's for people who have their water heater set at 150 or 160 and all that steam pressure would cause some sort of leaking if sudden hit with hot water (Magic Clean explained it something like that, sorry Leslie for thei misquote). AND it shouldn't drain after that short circulate, should keep adding water for the prewash. Purges happen 4-6 miinutess into the cycle and at about 12 minutes into the main wash cycle. The pauses during prewash and main wawsh are for sensing soil, water temp, and load size.

Post# 232170 , Reply# 24   8/22/2007 at 08:47 (6,091 days old) by tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

Serge, I am confused (happens a lot) about filling both dispensers for a cycle with one wash. If NORMAL is one wash and two rinses, what is the WATER MISER cycle? On my 1989 Ultra Wash, WATER MISER is two washes and two rinses. LIGHT WASH is what your NORMAL cycle is. I really like the water heating option. With starchy foods, I start the machine so that the water for the first wash is not more than 110/120 degrees so that the starch is not cooked on. The second wash heats to 150 degrees and everything comes out spotlessly clean. I use the no heat dry, but in the last 4 or 5 minutes I reset the option to give it a bit of heat at the end of DRY when the temperature of the tank is dropping. It makes a big difference in the results when I open the machine several hours later. Tom

Post# 232172 , Reply# 25   8/22/2007 at 08:51 (6,091 days old) by re563 (Fort Worth, Texas)        

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Very facinated with these discriptions you guys are giving here. Sounds like there is a lot of purging going on here. Having used some Kitchenaids from the 70's I understand the purge concept, but now seems like they (including kenmore now) do this alot

Post# 232178 , Reply# 26   8/22/2007 at 09:26 (6,091 days old) by maytagwc401 ()        

On my Ultra wash dishwasher shown above, my Water Miser cycle does 1 wash and 1 rinse. This model is quite frugal for a non- tall tub american model. I think my normal cycle uses about 6.5 gallons of water ( 1 wash, 2 rinses).


Post# 232790 , Reply# 27   8/25/2007 at 13:26 (6,088 days old) by andrewinorlando ()        

One of the main reasons for the pause during washing/rinsing is to generate the higher pressure at startup that the upper wash arm needs to clean dishes/cups/glasses positioned in the corners of the upper racks. Some folks actually have thought that there is something wrong with their machine because it "just stops in the middle of the cycle"!! Sensing happens while the machine is running as it senses the pressure of the water moving through the dishwasher's pump chamber...as pressure drops it indicates a "heavy soil" condition, which will trigger a purge, and if needed, additional heat or rinsing. If pressure remains fairly steady, no purge is triggered. This is in contrast to the purely optical sensors used on other brands, such as GE's extra-clean sensor that can "see" the quality of the water moving through the pump and add time, heat, rinsing to the cycle. The higher end Kenmore Elites, Whirlpools and KitchenAids can also measure the size of the load in addition to soil and fill, set wash/rinse time, temp and cycle length accordingly.

So what happens if the sensor(s) malfunction? Does the machine default to a pre-programmed cycle or just give you back dirty dishes?



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