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Thread Number: 13887
A Beautiful Window Lid Thor in France for our Euro Friends |
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Post# 238576 9/26/2007 at 09:56 (6,054 days old) by unimatic1140  (Minneapolis) |
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Check this out, the European Thor machines came with a round window lid, I love that! We used the washer until 1975 or so for washing dishes. It retired not because of any failure, but because we were fed up with filling the dishes in and out. I turned it on very briefly this summer (it wasn't connected to a water inlet - so I prefered not to insist) and both axes still turn appropriately in each command position. In 1972 it was converted from 110 to 220 V, and so it still could be used now. CONACT: Bernard at bernard.thedie@thalesgroup.com 
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Post# 238577 , Reply# 1 9/26/2007 at 09:57 (6,054 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) |
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Post# 238578 , Reply# 2 9/26/2007 at 09:58 (6,054 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) |
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Post# 238579 , Reply# 3 9/26/2007 at 10:03 (6,054 days old) by chachp (North Little Rock, AR) |
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WOW! | ||
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Post# 238597 , Reply# 4 9/26/2007 at 13:31 (6,053 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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| Post# 238612 , Reply# 5 9/26/2007 at 15:26 (6,053 days old) by dasher () | ||
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Thor Thor Corporation was located in Chicago Illinois. | ||
| Post# 238614 , Reply# 6 9/26/2007 at 15:35 (6,053 days old) by dasher () | ||
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Thor Look at the lettering on the dial of the machine. Not in English. | ||
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Post# 238617 , Reply# 7 9/26/2007 at 15:52 (6,053 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) |
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Post# 238622 , Reply# 8 9/26/2007 at 16:38 (6,053 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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Post# 238635 , Reply# 10 9/26/2007 at 18:20 (6,053 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY) |
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WOW that is an amazing machine... | ||
| Post# 238638 , Reply# 11 9/26/2007 at 18:29 (6,053 days old) by northwesty (Renton, WA) | ||
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Too bad its in France. Wonder what shipping to Renton would be. | ||
| Post# 238653 , Reply# 12 9/26/2007 at 18:57 (6,053 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY) | ||
Ross help us !!!! sounds like God help us, doesn't it 
I can make out Appuyer ----mmez essorer - - I N G E And across from the latter, lavissage--I THINK-- which means wash I wonder if Ross has the matching text in English. The washtub and agi look identical to his, inner rim and all. Where is the fill spout and how exactly does the dishwasher work? Get the dictionary out, Stevie | ||
| Post# 238658 , Reply# 14 9/26/2007 at 19:10 (6,053 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY) | ||
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Hi Si | ||
| Post# 238667 , Reply# 15 9/26/2007 at 19:28 (6,053 days old) by 74simon () | ||
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Hey Mickey, The 'Laver' is on the middle of the red bit of the control panel. I think the INGE is 'Linge' - linen. I'm gonna try to figure out the rest now! | ||
| Post# 238669 , Reply# 16 9/26/2007 at 19:37 (6,053 days old) by 74simon () | ||
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essorer = to dry I think 'arret' (stop) is between that and Laver on the left? 'appuyez' translates as 'support' on babelfish (i'm cheating) - any guesses? | ||
| Post# 238676 , Reply# 17 9/26/2007 at 19:51 (6,053 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY) | ||
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Nice work, Si | ||
| Post# 238679 , Reply# 18 9/26/2007 at 20:03 (6,053 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY) | ||
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Hey Fellow Clubbers
I just now saw Northwesty's post about the machine being so far away in France and wondering about the shipping........ AND I HAD A WILD EUREKA All interested active members could share the cost of shipping and we could let Robert or Greg or Jon or Ross house it to be shared at Wash-ins and/or taken on loan for a season or so by interested parties. There is no question that we would all work it out fairly. You know this !We, the Club, get the machine, and everyone wins! Whadda ya think? | ||
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Post# 238684 , Reply# 19 9/26/2007 at 20:44 (6,053 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY) |
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Et le voila! La laveuse de Ross.... | ||
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Post# 238685 , Reply# 20 9/26/2007 at 20:45 (6,053 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY) |
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Post# 238686 , Reply# 21 9/26/2007 at 20:48 (6,053 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY) |
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Post# 238690 , Reply# 22 9/26/2007 at 20:55 (6,053 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY) |
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Post# 238702 , Reply# 23 9/26/2007 at 21:52 (6,053 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY) |
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~Nominally, the UK (and Europe) are all on 230v now, in theory but not necessarily in practice! Nominally=> from the French "NOM" in name (only). Australia is also now on 230v. "OFFICIALLY" In reality the UK and Europe still probably deliver 220v and Australia still delivers 240v as always, but "on paper" everyone has a standard of 230V. The actual voltages suppplied are with acceptable tolerances, of course. | ||
| Post# 238758 , Reply# 24 9/27/2007 at 03:46 (6,053 days old) by mielabor () | ||
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What is the approximate weight of this machine? | ||
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Post# 238782 , Reply# 25 9/27/2007 at 08:58 (6,053 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) |
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A Response from Bernard
Hi Robert, thank you for posting my pictures and comments. I see the post provoked many questions. Let me complete the blanks : The upper most letters say "Appuyez et tournez", which means "Push and turn". It is the way you may use the dial, not a position. The rest is straightforward with the picture of the english equivalent. ["Appuyez" does mean "support" in a very different context, like in "appuyez ma requête" = please support my request, for instance] How the dishwasher worked... Wow... this is going to challenge my english so, please excuse my french ! The motor actually activates two vertical co-axes in different ways. For clothes washing, the tub rotates back and forth while the agitator moves forth and back. For spinning, both tub and agitator turn at max speed and the water is evacuated through holes all around the tub. For dishes (and forks, knives, pans...) the things to be washed stay still (hopefully), one axe spins a flat recipient with a border, placed at the bottom of the machine, which pushes water in periphery of the recipient by centrifuge force. The other axe goes back and forth, it holds two arms with horizontal tubes curved at one end and cut at 45° at the other end. A drawing would help the explanation ! The movement of the tubes collects water in periphery and projects it vigorously upwards. That's it ! If you open the cover while washing, your ceiling is ruined. That happened to my grandmother. In both case, water inlet was through the cover (different covers for dishes and clothes) and the machine did not heat as far as I remember. My grandmother bought this machine after WW2. It came from england. I still have the notice. At that time most (all ?) of France was in 110V. We progressively switched to 220V, area by area, house by house and we would accomodate for years with bi-voltage appliances and transformers ! I don't have a clue how many appliances burned because of that. The 220V delivery is not as precise as the 50 Hz frequency is. It may have ups and downs even now. We actually use a 3-phase balanced current with 380V between 2 phases, which ends up to about 220V between one phase and neutral (this is trigonometry). Robert, I love to browse your web site - everything is so well transposed to the washing machines world ! Keep up the good job. Feel free to simplify the above explanations if possible. Yours faithfully, Bernard | ||
| Post# 238840 , Reply# 26 9/27/2007 at 15:55 (6,052 days old) by keymatic (London / UK) | ||
Hi Guys.. Just saw this thread and thought i must respond. The machine in question is a Thor Automagic model 244 it was introduced in the UK in 1955..and was rather revolutionary at the time as it used the spinning method to remove excess water from the clothes instead of wringing !! I have one of these machines in excellent working order which i got about 8 years ago, i did have to do quite a bit of restoration on it but it is in showroom condition now. I have the dishwashing attachment, but have never tried it with a load..The only thing i can see that the machine in question is lacking is the water in-spout which is located over in the left hand corner at the back of the machine. I have a short video that i did some 2 years ago showing the machine in operation, it is a bit ad-hoc, but it was really made on the spare of the momment to show a friend. I would up load it but it is a big file and am unable to compress it, but if mail me at keefa1976@yahoo.co.uk i will try send it to you. Cheers Keith (uk) 
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Post# 238878 , Reply# 27 9/27/2007 at 17:55 (6,052 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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Keiths Thor AutoMagic
Keith, I took the liberty of downloading the file for you, compressed it and loaded it on youtube for all the guys to watch,
CLICK HERE TO GO TO chestermikeuk's LINK | ||
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