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Post# 242312   10/14/2007 at 05:24 (6,037 days old) by vivalalavatrice ()        

This is how I've fixed the drum lids: They'r two hangers used for hung up mirrors onto wall, it's a kit with a pair of stand hangers and a pair with springs boarded hangers, I used the springs boarded one.

A wounderful job! The machine now has been completely restored in the functional way...

I'M HAPPY! :-DDD





Post# 242313 , Reply# 1   10/14/2007 at 05:25 (6,037 days old) by vivalalavatrice ()        
Nearer...

This is one...

Post# 242314 , Reply# 2   10/14/2007 at 05:33 (6,037 days old) by vivalalavatrice ()        
And it's indedd faster than modern one!

I set program n° 5:
cold prewas, 40°C main wash, and 2 rinses ONLY!

Everything (I tried it yesterday with 3 carpets) went out wonderfully clean and well rinses (deep rinse ever of course, it's an horizontal axis!)... and all-done in 40-45 minutes!!!
What a speedness!! The new one (the Whirlpool I mean) doesn't do a cycle like that in less thatn 1h,30min...

Ah, Louis asked me in his post about Philips TLHA whether this machine spins during rinse cycle...well It spins EACH draining, so after prewash there's a spin, then after the main wash and after each rinses and at the end there's of course the final spin! This cycle thus has got 4 spisns together.

Bye
Diomede


Post# 242315 , Reply# 3   10/14/2007 at 05:33 (6,037 days old) by vivalalavatrice ()        
oops..

4+final spins = 5 spins! :-P

Post# 242317 , Reply# 4   10/14/2007 at 06:37 (6,037 days old) by funguy10 ()        

Now that the washer is done, could you post some videos?

Post# 242327 , Reply# 5   10/14/2007 at 08:50 (6,036 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Congratulations Diomede! Project finished! Perhaps on the road there will be some problems now and then, but I hope it will serve you many happy washings! A wonderful piece of Italian washing history! Will it be part of your thesis?

Post# 242339 , Reply# 6   10/14/2007 at 10:11 (6,036 days old) by vivalalavatrice ()        
Will it be part of your thesis?

OF COURSE! I would't have worked so hard if there weren't be a valid goal!

Would you like to know what I learnt?

- the problem in washing consumptions (honestly here this argument has been very musch discussed!) IS NOT DECREASE THE WATER LEVEL! This machine fill higher than any modern one but rinses very fewer times! So what is the difference between 5rinsesx2liters-each=10liters i.e. and 2rinsesx5liters-each?!?! NONE!

- Higher water level means:
* less concentration of detergent in water: so more delicate chemical action of it
* less scrubbing of the clothes tumbling: the water works in this case as a lubrificant...clothes slide and don't scrub with each other.
* less detergent concentration = less risks of allergy!!

- the conseguence of the concept above is that the cycle could be very very less long!

- this machine then is hot-cold fill: at her era there were more machine like that here...then the less water filling let the producers swap onto cold-fill only...but looking at the above theory it's not so! Thus the tomorrow-washing should be

- with more water level
- with bio and eco-detergent: so you can re-use or re-cycle the same wash (there should be a suds-return coming again!)
- the more water filled should be heated up externally with rennovable source such as solar-board, woodburning plants, bio-mass heater, heat pump...

This machine thus should be an example of how should producers will design the tomorrow-machine! After more than 40 years it's not old...but the newest ever see :-)


Post# 242340 , Reply# 7   10/14/2007 at 10:17 (6,036 days old) by vivalalavatrice ()        
Now that the washer is done, could you post some videos?

My dear funguy10, I would post all video you want but what else of those you have just seen on youtube do you think to be able to see more?!?!?!

It's a top loading horizontal axis...it doesn't make me sense to post a video of the timeline more than 1h long...and either if I could make a video of the machine opend on working it would be only a sudsy drum rotating to be seen!!!

If you and some others woul like to see a video of the machine working looking from the rear side (I mean the belt/pulley side) I'll do it but you will be asked to wait until the end of the next week!

This machine amaze the users only with the wonderful and original sound of the splashy, because it's got 4 paddles and not only 3 as the majority of the horizontal drums!

Louis did I say something wrong!?

BYE
Diomede


Post# 242350 , Reply# 8   10/14/2007 at 11:42 (6,036 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Diomede,

You are right. It looks like Funguy can do nothing else than ask for videos in all the threads. As if people overhere have nothing else to do than make videos on his demand.

H-axis toploaders are indeed fascinating machines, but there is not a lot to see. Toploaders have a little mystery hanging around them. The enjoyment is mainly in the sounds. And in the end ofcourse the clean laundry!

Ciao!

Luigi


Post# 242368 , Reply# 9   10/14/2007 at 15:48 (6,036 days old) by dj-gabriele ()        

BRAVOOO!

Post# 242373 , Reply# 10   10/14/2007 at 16:28 (6,036 days old) by vivalalavatrice ()        
THE END!

THANKS very much all!
This is the sliding door comparing before the cleaning up and after...WHAT A SHINESS!!!

Here you are then the "riepilogo" of the whole story...:-)



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Post# 242381 , Reply# 11   10/14/2007 at 17:47 (6,036 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains)        
Wow!

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I am very impressed. Your work is great, I thank you for sharing with us.
What was the hardest part for you - you had so many problems to resolve - and you did!
I am a little bit older than funguy, so I can wait...but I would love to hear and see this old beauty in action, too. I think this would be a good one for the restorations section of automaticwasher.


Post# 242432 , Reply# 12   10/15/2007 at 01:00 (6,036 days old) by vivalalavatrice ()        
What was the hardest part for you

It was to repair the hole in the outer tub! There it was a point which should stay elastic, so when the leak stopped and you went to mount the draining pump once you tight the screw everything get wet again!!!

Neither the red-silicone did a good job, it need the surface to be very very clean and dry, then is not so good to be moulded with the fingers.
The traditional one was wonderful instead! In the part where the hole was to big to be filled with silicone only a used some piceces of rubber seal, cutting it in few stripes and laying them onto the hole after have covered them of silicone.

After that the other reparation intervents were not so difficult,neither was difficult to build up the two new drum lids latches...at end the machine was fair good when I picked it up to home.

So "a gran richiesta" I'll nextly do a video of the machine, it won't be so long to prevent getting bored :-) But few minutes of the wonderful drum shacking (and it shakes tremendously, even during the spin!) I suppose should be done!


Post# 242441 , Reply# 13   10/15/2007 at 03:49 (6,036 days old) by mielabor ()        

Well, you did a wonderful job with this restauration. When I looked through the pictures again, I noticed something that I wanted to ask before: what is that metal rod under the bottom of the machine. I can see that there is something there (but without rod) in the advertisement pictures too. Is it for activating wheels under the machine?

Post# 242444 , Reply# 14   10/15/2007 at 05:27 (6,036 days old) by vivalalavatrice ()        
Is it for activating wheels under the machine?

YES it is! Thus the machine is boarded with two standard "feet" in front side and two "wheels" in rear side. The rod you see is to activate the third pivot wheel on front side...the machine should rise and stay on 3 wheels that you can move it very easly...

Should...yes...because the fornt wheels system is broken...look at how much rust is there! So during the restoriation I made the machine rise from front side to let it slide on back wheels with my muscles power only!!! Imagine that my weight is 50Kg and I rised up nearly 90Kg with this machine!!! Isn't this a GREAT LOVE!? :-D


Post# 242482 , Reply# 15   10/15/2007 at 10:06 (6,035 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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Hi Diomede, wow that is just wonderful!!! Conratulations on a restoration job well done. How wonderful it will be to wash in this beautiful machine. I love the before and after pictures!

Post# 242486 , Reply# 16   10/15/2007 at 10:22 (6,035 days old) by vivalalavatrice ()        
How wonderful it will be to wash in this beautiful machine

Thank you Robert!
"Conratulations on a restoration job well done"
I'm pleased for your kind words :-)

OH you cannot indeed imagine how it is!! The sound is spacial of the splashy drum...it's got 4 paddles and not only 3...
Then it's amazing that sliding...the most exciting thing of this machine...

Nexlty some video could be done...

THANKS ALL!
BYE
Diomede


Post# 242642 , Reply# 17   10/16/2007 at 02:00 (6,035 days old) by aldspinboy (Philadelphia, Pa)        

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ABSOLUTLEY FABULOUS! DIOMEDE It must feel really good to compleat a project very nice work. I agree with your thesis i wish i was working with u on it lol, i wished every manufactuer would look at what u said about high water levels, and they no...they just dont do nothing about it it's a shame the wash suffers im alwasys filling my front loader. What did you use to clean the sliding door and gasket it looks great! I'm learning how to restore, it;s a little scary but willing to try i'll get some pointers from ya hopefully. best to you! Darren k

Post# 242670 , Reply# 18   10/16/2007 at 05:34 (6,035 days old) by vivalalavatrice ()        
What did you use to clean the sliding door and gasket it loo

So I have to sveal my secret...
LA PAGLIETTA = a wirewool

Simply brushing with a wet wirewool not so hardly but with a gentle a patient action so that you can get out the dirt layer without demage the understanding crhomature. The same was for the gasket...

Adn imagine that the same was for the painted cabinet either!! During the time the dirt lay down on surfaces working as a safe layer...so after years and years of storage it would need just to "blow up" onto them like if you were bringing an old book from a bookcase...

In past the painting was better than now more deep and more strong so the 40y.o. Ignis seems to be better than my 6y.o. ongly Whrilppol which already show some rusted scrathes!!!



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