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Post# 58733   3/2/2005 at 12:18 (6,993 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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Well it's official, I'm selling my 1947 Bendix, in the auction is a link to some brand new See-It-Wash action videos...

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Post# 58752 , Reply# 1   3/2/2005 at 15:06 (6,993 days old) by bethann (Indianapolis)        
Shocked

I don't think anyone knows what to say! I don't! It's kind of like giving a child up for adoption!

Post# 58753 , Reply# 2   3/2/2005 at 15:15 (6,993 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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Oh it's not the first time I've put one of the Kids up for adpotion. They have all gone to good, loving homes.

Notice how wonderfully sudsy the wash is and how clear the rinse water is. YAY for Dash!


Post# 58756 , Reply# 3   3/2/2005 at 15:52 (6,993 days old) by peteski50 (New York)        
Bendix Action Videos!!

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Real nice videos. Nothing today tumbles with all that water action like the Bendix.
Peter


Post# 58757 , Reply# 4   3/2/2005 at 15:54 (6,993 days old) by mulls ()        
WHY

I have never understood how these old front loaders were not highly rated with respect to cleaning ability-looks like to me they would be great.Can someone explain?
Tom


Post# 58761 , Reply# 5   3/2/2005 at 16:10 (6,993 days old) by westytoploader ()        

WOW! Now the 1947 Bendix was what REALLY got me hooked on vintage FL's!!!! All that splash action and you can run it with the door open!

Hmmmm...now I definitely wouldn't mind having two...yay :)


Post# 58764 , Reply# 6   3/2/2005 at 16:48 (6,993 days old) by PeterH770 (Marietta, GA)        

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Amd that blinding Rapidry 250 spin!!!

Post# 58779 , Reply# 7   3/2/2005 at 17:49 (6,993 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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Tom I think part of the problem with the earliest front loaders is that lack of detergent as only soap was available at that time.

What I find strange is that the owners manual constantly stresses the need to keep the suds level up as opposed to keeping the suds level down and under control. It seems to me with these early Bendix machines you have to be careful not to over suds the machine. Vintage Dash seems to work wonderfully as well as Tide HE powder and Sears HE, but you still don't want to use more than 1/2 a cup or one scoop of Sears HE.

So I guess the question I have is did soap create much less suds than synthetic detergents or were the clothes in the 1930's and 1940's a lot dirtier than today????


Post# 58788 , Reply# 8   3/2/2005 at 18:11 (6,993 days old) by bethann (Indianapolis)        

Does it have anything to do with soft water?

Post# 58790 , Reply# 9   3/2/2005 at 18:12 (6,993 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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I'm thinking it's more difficult to get good cleaning power with *soaps*, expecially in hard water, than it is with synthetic detergents that include water softening and soil suspension agents. Stressing a higher suds level is probably to insure there's enough concentration to handle the soil and water conditions. It could also be the psychological angle of SUDS = CLEANING POWER.

Post# 58792 , Reply# 10   3/2/2005 at 18:27 (6,993 days old) by mulls ()        
Detergent

This I guess is off the subject a little but when did detergents come on the scene?There just seems to be so much"action"in these high water level vintage front loaders it is incredible!
Tom


Post# 58799 , Reply# 11   3/2/2005 at 19:20 (6,992 days old) by cehalstead (Charleston, WV)        
suds level

Suds were an indicator of how well the soap was cleaning. Nos suds, no clean clothes. However, suds with detergent is just a marketing tactic that was designed originally to compare to soap suds. Detergent suds are not necessary at all for good cleaning......

Post# 58800 , Reply# 12   3/2/2005 at 19:23 (6,992 days old) by jmirawm (Barling Arkansas)        
very cool !

Enjoyed the videos Robert! And the way you put together the auction is very nice too. All the details. Its so nice. will be interesting to see how this auctions goes. I love the machine.

Post# 58802 , Reply# 13   3/2/2005 at 19:24 (6,992 days old) by angus (Fairfield, CT.)        

True - with soaps, the suds level was an indicator of effectiveness. IF the suds disappeares, the soap was "used up" and you needed to add more. Not so with detergents, though the vintage 50's boxes instructed users to keep a certain suds level....

Post# 58803 , Reply# 14   3/2/2005 at 19:24 (6,992 days old) by mrcleanjeans (milwaukee wi)        
surfing thru surfactants

It's true, the Bendix and the other tumbler machines from that era did not clean outstandingly well with soap in any water conditions.Then, when synthetic detergents came out,they were so sudsy that you had to cut down too far to prevent oversudsing,thus compromising efficiency.Afterwards, came the low to moderate sudsers, such as Spin, All,then Dash,which took time to perfect,for they were not at first tops in cleaning, a fact which later changed. With one of today's excellent HE detergents or a low sudser from the 1960s-up, these vintage beautys can do a wonderful cleaning job.A cut above the rest to begin with, even with the syndet's limitations was the Bendix Duomatics thru 1958.Why?Because the drum was much larger, causing clothes to plunge two feet as the literature stated,thus it cleaned at least as good as a standard top-loader of the day.

Post# 58807 , Reply# 15   3/2/2005 at 19:47 (6,992 days old) by christfr (st louis mo)        
dont feel bad

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i sold mine too but it got a good home. its sad to let them go but the way i see it, i had it, i got to enjoy it, and now someone else can have a turn

Post# 58809 , Reply# 16   3/2/2005 at 19:52 (6,992 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        
From the 1941 Bendix Owners Manual

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Here is what Bendix says about the suds level from the pre-war owners manual, not a word is mentioned about the possiblity of oversudsing!

Post# 58815 , Reply# 17   3/2/2005 at 20:11 (6,992 days old) by RE563 (Fort Worth, Texas)        

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OH UNIMMATIC1140--if you were closer i'd scoop up that machine in a heart beat!!!!!!!!

Post# 58816 , Reply# 18   3/2/2005 at 20:18 (6,992 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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This machine was rated for a 9lb load, that makes a huge difference in the splashing and action drama - and cleaning ability too, my 47 "S" worked much better with smaller loads. Have you used soap in the Bendix? It would be interesting to see what the cleaning ability actually is... I've never found a box of Rinso that was still good enough to use. I tried using soap once in a Frigidaire rollermatic and it took huge amounts to make a "head" of suds, the clothes were nice and soft though - as they should be churning around in a tub of what amounts to heavy whipping cream!

Post# 58829 , Reply# 19   3/2/2005 at 20:59 (6,992 days old) by westytoploader ()        
BendNEMOix

Hmmm...well I sure hope this doesn't happen...

Sorry, just couldn't resist ;-)


Post# 58842 , Reply# 20   3/2/2005 at 21:41 (6,992 days old) by tolivac (greenville nc)        

On the Nemo in the Bendix-could be like Frog in the blender?

Post# 58895 , Reply# 21   3/3/2005 at 09:02 (6,992 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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Hi Greg, no I have not tried using soap but I was thinking to get a bar of Fels-Naptha and a grater and making my own laundry soap, just to give it a try. It will be interesting to see what are the differences. I suppose I will have to hang things on the line to dry to get that real 1940's washday experience.

I never realized this before, but the pre-war Bendix does a Spray Rinse - Deep Rinse - Spray Rinse for its rinse routine. The post-war Bendix does a Spray Rinse - 1st Deep Rinse - 2nd Deep for its Rinse routine. They must have refined and came up with the standard Bendix cycle during the war.


Post# 58896 , Reply# 22   3/3/2005 at 09:19 (6,992 days old) by PeterH770 (Marietta, GA)        

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You need soft water with soap.
Soap and soft water created suds.
If no suds, then hard water.
If hard water, then soap reacts with minerals in water to create curds.
If curds, then gray clothes.
If there are soap and suds in the washer and then suds disappear, then that means there are very dirty clothes in the washer or enough soap was not used, and more soap is needed to keep dirt suspended.

I have used grated Fels Naptha and STPP in my frontloader. It is very difficult to get just the right amount of suds, and we have medium soft water here.


Post# 58918 , Reply# 23   3/3/2005 at 12:42 (6,992 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        
Keeping up with the Segers

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Robert, you'll need to do the ironing on Tuesday after washing and hanging them out on Monday. Because your automatic washer cuts your workload in half on Monday, you'll have time to gather with all the other neighborhood homemakers for cake and cards! You might be alone though, those automatics are very expensive, what's next a Television set for your parlor??

Peter - I had soft water and was washing towels, not heavily soiled but the problem might have been the soap itself. I should grate a bar of Fels and see how that works. Jon (jetcone) has done this in his Westys with good luck... Remember to rinse in warm water!


Post# 58926 , Reply# 24   3/3/2005 at 13:14 (6,992 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        
YAY for more spare time

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Yes ever since I got my new '41 Bendix, I've just had so much extra time. I can wash while I shop, sleep, eat, make floral arrangements, etc.

Post# 58932 , Reply# 25   3/3/2005 at 14:11 (6,992 days old) by geoffdelp (SAUK RAPIDS)        
Love Fels!

I love using Fels in my non-automatics. Suds are quite thick and nice through 2-3 uses of water. Make sure water is softened first.

Dial Corporation (maker of Fels) says to use 1/2 of a bar finely grated for a load of clothes. Believe me, that is a lot of soap and TONS of suds ... I love it!! I usually end up with almost 3/4 of a cup of grated soap for half of a bar. It's very economical to use. $1.05 per bar here in Foley!!

Warm rinse is the key here, otherwise you end up yellowing white clothing. Might have to rinse twice with Fels. In my non-automatics, I rinse twice through warm water in tubs and then do a mechanical rinse using the washing machine. Lots of water to get out soap.

Have never tried Fels in an automatic. Used to use instant Fels ... that was a different formulation, however.


Post# 58969 , Reply# 26   3/3/2005 at 21:22 (6,991 days old) by kenmore1978 ()        
soap

Isn't powdered Ivory Snow still soap? Or do they even make it anymore? Then there's Ivory bars that are still soap.

Post# 59014 , Reply# 27   3/4/2005 at 09:25 (6,991 days old) by PeterH770 (Marietta, GA)        

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Nope, the Ivory Snow that is available is detergent, not soap.


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